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Posted by: iwe-admin

http://invest-with-egold.com

I would like to introduce my Program.

Invest With E-Gold

We are a small investment company that invest in various
online, offline ventures. Our company provides you with a
nice steady, secure way of investing E-Gold with very little
risk to you.

Our partnership with our investors is our main concern. We
feel that with what we have to offer we are surely the best in
the industry.

To insure 100% uptime we are starting to purchase ALL the domains for our name.

To date we now own

invest-with-egold.com

invest-with-egold.net
invest-with-egold.org

So now with that said, What do we offer? Good question!
We offer you the opportunity to be part of our fast growing
lucrative program that offers a great return on your E-Gold.

If you ever ask a question in ANY forum and we dont reply within 8 hours Please go to Live chat, the Blog, or email us. We are members in over 10 forums and are on 12 monitoring sites and as we grow our time between investing your money and talking to you in a specific forum will conflict so the easiest way to talk to us would be on livechat.

Live chat is on all 3 computers here in the office and we can get to you QUICKER then in the forums which is why we added livechat.

We never want a client to scratch there heads and wait for an answer to a question they can get almost instant thru livechat. Please keep in mind that we also deal with offline clients as well and it is getting that time of the year where taxes are going to be proccessed as we also run Financial services.

A little about Our financial services

We are Member of these organizations:
AICPA, ICPA, CPA Direct
Licensed in Illinois:
Number 065.032XXXX
Specializing in:
Individual Taxation, Financial Planning and Small Business Accounting

Services Include:
·Individual Taxation·Small Business Taxation ·Small Business Start-up ·Accounting Services ·IRS Audit Defense ·Personal Financial Statements ·Retirement Planning·Mortgage Refinancing·Credit Counseling

Now that you know a little more… We do not offer these services online. These are offline and are to local clients.

http://invest-with-egold.com

INTERVIEW WE DID BY EMAIL FOR ANOTHER FORUM

Hi Will is it possible to tell us a little bit of yourself. Hobies, occupation/degrees, family etc?

I graduated from DePaul University in Chicago, IL and have my B.S degree along with certifications in the State of Illinois.

I attended the College of Financial Planning where I studied investment planning among other disciplines. I have worked for UBS for 4 years in the wealth accumulation division where I enhanced my investment skills and gained valuable knowledge in investment strategies.

My hobbies include playing golf on a course I partly own near our offices playing three times a week to help maintain my focus and competitive edge in my industry.

How much people are involved in your team and what are their tasks?

We have 3 investment advisors on the team and have available office space to hire more if needed.

Why have you decide to open your own hyip program?

After years at UBS and working with multi-million dollar clients, I have decided to offer my services to not just a few privileged individuals but to all that have dreams of becoming financially free. When we started we were local but have recently decided to open our operation globally. We had to figure out what is the MOST WIDELY accepted currency in the WORLD and we agreed.... GOLD, so with that in mind and doing extensive research on the internet we came to the conclusion that e-gold and the HYIP arena was a great investment vehicle.

At these time you can only invest with e-gold. Will you accept other forms of deposit in the future too?

We looked over our options and decided that credit card processing was NOT a option because a credit card holder can do a chargeback AFTER receiving their payouts therefore giving them the option of abusing the investment system.

How do you make a profit for your clients?

Here are a FEW examples of what we do.

Futures trading
Real Estate development
Hedge funds
Day trading (US and foreign stocks)

The minimum required deposit is 1$. Is there any maximum deposit?
No there is no maximum.

How long do you plan to stay online?

Indefinitely.

What are the future plans for invest-with-egold.com?

Our future plans include developing state of the art software that will aid our investment strategies by identifying inherent risks and identifying other investment opportunities.

What steps have you took to secure your site?

We have invested in a top of the line DELL server that uses 128 bit encription with roaming WEP codes.

Is it possible to give us three reasons why we should invest in invest-with-egold.com?

While there are MANY ways to invest. I feel that with our proven investment strategies gives everyone the opportunity to fulfill their financial dreams. We are a strong and aggressive office with experienced advisors. If you want to experience what wealth accumulation is, then you have finally found a TRUE home with REAL people who work hard to provide you will a source of income that can set you financialy free.

We try hard to bring to your attention to how we differ from the majority of the websites you see in the HYIP arena. Given the opportunity to add you to our client list is benefficial to both of us.

Do you invest in other hyips yourself and what are your favourite programmes at this moment?

NO. We won't ever consider it either.

Do you agree with me that hyips are risky?

The investment area comes with risk; however, those who are willing to accept risk will share in the wealth. Nevertheless, we diversify investments so that risk is at a minimum. We have also implemented a risk management strategy and a maintain a reserve account to secure our clients funds.

HTTP://INVEST-WITH-EGOLD.COM

Our blog ALSO has live feeds so you can ALWAYS stay current right from your desktop...

As this family grows we will offer new and exciting things thru the BLOG so keep it in your favorites or signup for the feeds and know when new information happens.

There is also a place for you to start making NOTES about scam programs and to give your list of scams thru the comments...

Our investors are NOT just investors but part of a network that we call
FAMILY. This is a family that helps one another. How? You help US and
WE help you. Simply put, for every dollar that you allow us to invest on
your behalf you will receive a profitable income PER day.

We offer FOUR plans!
Plan 1
5% per day for 50 straight days.

Plan 2
2% per day for 200 straight days.

Plan 3 (Game of chance)
UP TO 60% per day for 3 days (This plan is NOT on the invest page it has
its own.)

Plan 4
1.5% per day for 365 straight days.

http://invest-with-egold.com

ADMIN

Walter Clanton AKA W.C

Posted by: golddust

Thanks "WC" for this very informative program introduction.

WHOIS:

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From limited search on Inktomi Corporation, this was a corporation that was acquired by Yahoo and is now a boneyard corp. Must assume that the registry information has not been changed. However, the address shown is not the correct address which appears to be:
Address:
4100 East Third Avenue
Foster City, CALIFORNIA 94404

Official Website:
http://www.inktomi.com/

This leaves me with a question about the relationship of the admin to Inktomi? Another question about all the rating sites; for a program admin that does not invest in HYIPs- you sure have a page full of links, and I read on your blog that one of your Plans is only available to registered members of MOG. Seriously?

golddust

Posted by: iwe-admin

The address shown is YAHOO"s address and not ours. THe domain is on a private system to protect ddos.

We are in NO way afilliated with Inktomi Corporation that is yahoo's information and not ours.

In OTHER forums we have had tons of requests to join a certain monitoring service so YES there are alot but thats for members benefit so that they can go to there favorite rating service and see how our performance is.

We do NOT now, in the past, or will in the future ponzi off ANYTHING. Our buisness is self contained and to rely on a scam is not what we will do!

ALL plans are available to the public. I do not know what you are referring too when you say that one plan is for members only. We do say that if you are NOT a member and you LOSE the game that we have available to the gambling community and you LOSE with a bet at least 5.00 we will put 25% of your losses into a plan so that even when you lose you still become a member.

WHat you are referring too.... Is from time to time we offer a BONUS in the game and we advertise the bonus on MOG so if you arent a member of MOG then you may miss out on the bonus.

W.C

Posted by: golddust

Thanks for the clarification concering the Yahoo registry information and hosting. It is confusing. Do you intend to arrange for dedicated hosting? This is a good indication of a serious program investing in its own servers, particularly if you are going "to purchase ALL the domains for our name to insure 100% uptime". That is a lot of hosting.
IMO, your program might better be suited in the category of online trading instead of HYIP, especially since you seem to scorn HYIPs.

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Futures trading
Real Estate development
Hedge funds
Day trading (US and foreign stocks)

Can you produce a history of your trading results in these areas which reflects the ability to support your returns?
I understand that 4 plans are offered; offering a "bonus" from time to time only advertised on MOG is IMO, "scammy". MOG is widely known for promoting Scams and serious investors rarely consider MOG a place to seek 'honest' programs.
Also, pardon my asking;

what is UBS?

golddust

Posted by: iwe-admin

UBS is a company that is located in Chicago IL. It is a major company dealing with finance, brokerage, stocks and bonds etc.

W.C

Most of our information must remain private as we will not disclose information that someone can use over the internet to exploit our company. OFF line our clients are previeldged to that information. The intergrity of our company must always remain intact and to disclose such information where We have NO control over WHO this information goes to and to what extent are they going to use this knowlegde is a main concrent to us.

When you have us handle SOME aspect of your portfolio you wouldnt want to have your information jepordized by a scammer over the internet. Privacy must remain intact to secure our revenue's and our clients money.

W.C

Posted by: iwe-admin

We started a collection plate for a FAMILY in TRUE NEED of some help YOu can read about it here.

http://invest-with-egold.com/donation.html

Posted by: golddust

If this is a true story, there must be some 'media' information, especially coming from a small town --this would be big news/gossip.
Can you add some media links?

golddust

Posted by: iwe-admin

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Originally Posted by golddust

If this is a true story, there must be some 'media' information, especially coming from a small town --this would be big news/gossip.
Can you add some media links?

golddust

You must not have understood.. THese people are now in CHicago. That is NOT a small town. Also, THe town that this happened in was the reason that it happened. Do you think the town is going to put on the media that they screwed these people over? That would be a lawsuit from heaven...

This is a VERY true story and as help them get there kids back and a home, pictures will be posted in our blog. Believe it or not but sorry to tell you.... Its true!

W.C

Posted by: golddust

IF true, this is the kind of story "Dateline" or "20/20" would find very newsworthy. In fact, while in Chicago, why not try Oprah?
Donating money to this 'cause' is a personal choice. But taking into account that people who read this forum give their money to total strangers everyday, believing "truth" and are scammed 99% of the time, IMO, you are playing to the wrong audience. Adding a 'humanitarian' cause to it may persuade some, but in "truth" humanitarian causes are usually HYPE meant to create sympathy for a spend or donation.
I'm thinking that maybe ppls aren't spending to your program like you hoped, and this is just another angle to bring in funds. Only with this angle, you don't even have to pay a return.
Are you providing receipts to ppls who donate to this story so tax deductions can be accounted? You'll need a tax ID for that.....

golddust

Posted by: iwe-admin

My program/company grows daily!! I dont need to make false claims to get funds. In fact there is a account setup solely for this purpose.

This company grows with or without online investors as we are offline as well. Its a shame that ever since I came here you did nothing but assume that we are like all the others.....

Have you browsed the other forums in regards to this company? Probably not.... I dont care if you invest with me or not... I dont care if you help this family or not... Ever seen the movie PAY IT FORWARD?? probably not.... YOU SHOULD! Do you think a PENNY is going to make or break this company?? I DONT THINK SO!!!

__________________________________________________ _____________

you really cant do anything with a penny can ya?? If you can tell me ONE thing that you can actually do with a SINGLE penny then I will give you one FREE BUT, If you cant then...

Wont you give a penny to the William Welch fund? If everyone donates a single penny imagine what we can do for that family...

Here is the link if you actually have a HEART!

http://invest-with-egold.com/donation

A penny might make a difference for this family!

Posted by: golddust

iwe-admin,
You have failed to address the issues- the questions and concerns about your program :

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Futures trading
Real Estate development
Hedge funds
Day trading (US and foreign stocks)

In this regard, I am doing my job. Until you can substantiate (provide proof) of your returns, your program is "like all the others....." IMO. People who read this forum and others are looking for the 'shread' of truth about what is being offered in "returns". You want to "Play it Forward"? Make a min spend for me, and I'll be happy to report results. If you are honest, this can be considered an investment in your program.

As to the Welch family, please pm to me the contact information for this family and I will forward to Oprah the link containing their story, and the contact information for her staff to verify. I would do this because I do have a "heart" and a "brain" that work together to offer the most effective solution(s). Your effort does not compare to the benevolence of Oprah, should this story check out.
Otherwise, I believe you have made your plea clear in this thread, and it truely is Off Topic to the discussion of your program or the purpose of this forum.

golddust

Posted by: nunulka

Quote:

Originally Posted by golddust

iwe-admin,
You have failed to address the issues- the questions and concerns about your program :

In this regard, I am doing my job. Until you can substantiate (provide proof) of your returns, your program is "like all the others...PONZIS right?" IMO. People who read this forum and others are looking for the 'shread' of truth about what is being offered in "returns". You want to "Play it Forward"? Make a min spend for me, and I'll be happy to report results. If you are honest, this can be considered an investment in your program.

As to the Welch family, please pm to me the contact information for this family and I will forward to Oprah the link containing their story, and the contact information for her staff to verify. I would do this because I do have a "heart" and a "brain" that work together to offer the most effective solution(s). Your effort does not compare to the benevolence of Oprah, should this story check out.
Otherwise, I believe you have made your plea clear in this thread, and it truely is Off Topic to the discussion of your program or the purpose of this forum.

golddust

Posted by: iwe-admin

YOU ARE CORRECT IT IS OFF TOPIC... If you knew the whole circumstance behind them you would know that Oprah (which is in my town) is really out of the question... With all the hard work I put into helping them.... And the ignorance of the officials in that town... AND them being days away from reuniting the kids with the parents AFTER ONE FULL YEAR... TO go on tv might also turn into a disaster. BUT I will agree that its off topic. THe information is there is someone wants it.... Its the TRUTH so they can take it for what its worth.. After all A PENNY isnt going to break ANYONE!
__________________________________________________ ________________
Also, what is your egold account number and I will do just that!! It will go into PLAN 4. I will be awaiting PM.

W.C

Posted by: iwe-admin

BTW in the town that they are from... THey tried to get the bigger cities news involved and they were not interested in the story... So they went for a year now without there children or a place to live UNTIL I stepped in and am now helping them.

Posted by: golddust

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Also, what is your egold account number and I will do just that!! It will go into PLAN 4. I will be awaiting PM.

Please be advised that I will not promote your program except to post "Paid" as cheerleaders do for ponzis, unless you provide some further information concerning your program, as I have twice requested. I will send my egold account for a deposit, as long as you understand this.
Your unwillingness to provide details about the current whereabouts of the Welch family speaks volumes about your need to control the efforts to assist them, indeed making you a 'champion'. Can no one try to help by other means than a donation? Still waiting on the Tax ID information for that.

golddust

Posted by: iwe-admin

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Originally Posted by golddust

You are failing to realize that all has been done.. The ONLY thing left is to get them into a HOME...I already told you that they are NOW in Chicago! If you want to buy the home for them directly... I will be more then happy to get you the information. If not, then whats a PENNY! This isnt a NEW issue... Its a ONE YEAR OLD issue thats coming to a close. That has been stated since the FIRST post. As far as cheerleader?? I dont need you to cheerleader... Just do what you would do for ANY program that you are in... If you post paid then post paid... I also answered your other question in a earler post. I will not disclose. That is PRIVATE information that you are asking for. If that makes me a scam then thats YOUR opinion.

Security and intregrity for this comany MUST be Enforced. There is enough information for someone to figure out if we are real or not. We went thru great lengths showing what CAN be showed. Your egold number is what is needed next to start to show you as well. You will be put into plan 4. If you choose to donate a single penny thats your call as well. I will get these people in a home for there children with or without the help of the online community and Those that have donated will see the progress as stated earler as I will be taking pictures and placing them in our blog. The home is already picked, 40k has already been achieved and the remaining 38k is what we are working on with the online community already funding over 100.00 in a day.

Most online in this arena have gotten to know me and some are ALREADY in profit here and talk to me daily. If you were active in other forums as well you would know alot that you wouldnt be so quick to yell scam....BUT, that is your choice.... Unless I donate to YOU you will never know now would you? SO, with that said.... All questions in my book has been answered... Send me your egold number so that I can donate to YOUR cause.

W.C

Posted by: iwe-admin

MEMBERS : 237
DAYS RUNNING ON LINE: 18
ONLINE MEMBERS FUNDED:
Plan 1 $ 3144.00
Plan 2 $ 146.04
Plan 3 Our profits get donated to the William Welch fund
Plan 4 $ 47.10

Posted by: golddust

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Originally Posted by iwe-admin

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Most of our information must remain private as we will not disclose information that someone can use over the internet to exploit our company. OFF line our clients are previeldged to that information. The intergrity of our company must always remain intact and to disclose such information where We have NO control over WHO this information goes to and to what extent are they going to use this knowlegde is a main concrent to us.

Security and intregrity for this comany MUST be Enforced. There is enough information for someone to figure out if we are real or not. We went thru great lengths showing what CAN be showed. Your egold number is what is needed next to start to show you as well. You will be put into plan 4.

Will I be privy to the priviledged information if you "Play it Forward"? I am also willing to sign a NDA, if not.

If you choose to donate a single penny thats your call as well. I will get these people in a home for there children with or without the help of the online community and Those that have donated will see the progress as stated earler as I will be taking pictures and placing them in our blog. The home is already picked, 40k has already been achieved and the remaining 38k is what we are working on with the online community already funding over 100.00 in a day.

Since you have a plan that involves donation to this cause I won't label it "Off Topic". I've read your site and what you've had to say about the Welch family here. I can see that it is a subject apparently near and dear to you. I still caution that collecting money for a charitable cause requires a non for profit ID, and it should be available to anyone who makes a donation. But as a person with an Accounting background I assume you know this and can show the use of proceeds. It still does not provide for a tax deductible incentive without your ID.

Most online in this arena have gotten to know me and some are ALREADY in profit here and talk to me daily. If you were active in other forums as well you would know alot that you wouldnt be so quick to yell scam....BUT, that is your choice.... Unless I donate to YOU you will never know now would you? SO, with that said.... All questions in my book has been answered... Send me your egold number so that I can donate to YOUR cause.

That said, I respectfully decline to provide my eg #. My participation in your program could be mutually beneficial, but I will not claim it as my "CAUSE". Asking questions to clarify the credentials, qualifications and documentation of production of returns is what I do as a Mod on Weblife, for the benefit of our members. The burden of proof is on you, and should be your "cause" if you wish to add members to your program; my opinion.

golddust

W.C

Posted by: golddust

Just wondering how everything is going with your program admin?
Have you reached your desired donations for the Welch family?

Here is some statistical data and the investment plans:

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MEMBERS : 374
DAYS RUNNING ON LINE: 31
ONLINE MEMBERS FUNDED:
Plan 1 $ 12,791.79
Plan 2 $ 434.22
Plan 3 Our profits get donated to the William Welch fund
Plan 4 $ 355.15
Plan 5 $ 3895.00
Plan 6 $ 695.00
Plan 7 (private venture) $ 1500.00

Our Mission

Live Chat is available
Monday thru Saturday
from 8am-5pm CST.

PLAN 1
5% for 50 Straight days.
Minimum deposit is $ 10.00
NO MAXIMUM

PLAN 2
2% for 200 Straight days.
Minimum deposit is $ 5.00
NO MAXIMUM

Plan 3 is the GAME

PLAN 4
1 % for 365 Straight days.
Minimum deposit is $ 1.00
NO MAXIMUM

PLAN 5
Double up in 15 days. (200%)
PAYMENT IS MADE in 15 DAYS FROM INVESTMENT
Minimum deposit is $ 50.00
NO MAXIMUM

PLAN 6
Triple up in 30 days. (300%)
PAYMENT IS MADE in 30 DAYS FROM INVESTMENT
Minimum deposit is $25.00
NO MAXIMUM

PLAN 7
ONE share into offline program - 1500.00
In 60 days from date of funding you will recieve ONE share into the
private program. Please have working fax/internet fax by the 60th day.

In 60 days you will receive ONE FULL share!

Can you share any information about this offline program? $1500 for one share is quite a chunk of change.
How many shares are being issued?
Is this a registered security?
What is the actual value of one share?

Also wondering, do you have a referral program?

I took a look at your blog and do not see Weblife included on your list of discussion forums.

golddust

Posted by: golddust

This admin has left the building, and probably took all the funds for the "Welch Family" with him.... the lowest form of life.

Posted by: TSGc

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Originally Posted by golddust

IF true, this is the kind of story "Dateline" or "20/20"
golddust

Golddust, if 20/20 showed up at my front door, I wouldn't consider it a good day. It's sort of like having a disease named after you. And, as you know, I think different than other folks in some respects.

Here is an example, "You can lead a horse to water, but if he drowns, you can't ride him home". You can lead a fish to water, but you have to walk real fast or he will "drown". Most others think different or I've heard it different ways. It's what fits the situation.

Just my thoughts.

Why is this in the scam folder? I haven't read it all, just saw you were here and thought I'd drop by. And, I might add that I made a post and made a comment about a plan that I know nothing about before I got all the facts, and must criticize myself for doing so. You know, I had to keep the same attitude of most everyone that post outofline in a thread.

I feel good today, about the future after learning of our bank account balance. It's posted at my homepage.

Clayton

Posted by: golddust

I suppose it would depend on your circumstances whether or not "20/20" dropped by...
This program is in the "Scam" folder for a good reason, the admin and his program were a total scam, but even worse, IMO, trying to raise money/donations from investors to help out this 'fictional' Welch family.

golddust