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Posted by: MyGirl123

http://www.lighthalzen.biz

LightHalzen is a profit sharing program 'with a twist'.

It has recently survived an attack by a bunch of jealous people who enjoy ruining successful programs. Becoming the target of this group can be considered a compliment ...

About the program:
- shares are $1 each
- the are active until you have earned 120% on them
- daily earnings (called LSP here) are capped at 5%

Nothing new so far, but here comes the twist:

There are 3 upgrade levels available:

1. Dark Knight
A member who has not deposited again after receiving a payment
Dark Knights earn 50% of the daily earnings (max. 2.5%)
2. White Knight
A member who has deposited at least 50% of his/her previous payment
White Knights earn 100% of the daily earnings (max. 5%)
3. Supreme Knight
A member who has deposited at least 100% of his/her previous payment
Supreme Knights earn 100% of the daily earnings AND they get a bonus, consisting of a share of 1% of the total deposits of the day before.

This system encourages redepositing, which is being done my almost every member! The daily earning has been the maximum of 15% for 27 days, before the maximum was changed to 5%. It is already at the max. of 5% at the time of this edit.

Payments are processed automatically each day at 23.59 pm server time.

So far, the admins have been excellent at communicating with their members, even if the change of terms on May 3rd came as a bit of a shock to the members. This is still an excellent program, built to last.



Posted by: Vera250

You couldn't be more right MyGirl....

I'm in it too since day 1, and I am in total profit already!!!

BTW....Congratulations to you for winning the LOTTO at LightHalzen !!!!

Vera...



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyGirl123
http://www.lighthalzen.biz

LightHalzen is a profit sharing program 'with a twist'.

It has recently survived an attack by a bunch of jealous people who enjoy ruining successful programs. Becoming the target of this group can be considered a compliment ...



Even though it can turn into a complete disaster? Glad the program survived.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Here is their who is:

Domain Name: LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ
Domain ID: D16450097-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Registrant ID: GODA-028038015
Registrant Name: Registration Private
Registrant Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Registrant Address1: DomainsByProxy.com
Registrant Address2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Registrant City: Scottsdale
Registrant State/Province: Arizona
Registrant Postal Code: 85260
Registrant Country: United States
Registrant Country Code: US
Registrant Phone Number: +1.4806242599
Registrant Facsimile Number: +1.4806242599
Registrant Email: LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ@domainsbyproxy.com
Administrative Contact ID: GODA-228038015
Administrative Contact Name: Registration Private
Administrative Contact Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Administrative Contact Address1: DomainsByProxy.com
Administrative Contact Address2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Administrative Contact City: Scottsdale
Administrative Contact State/Province: Arizona
Administrative Contact Postal Code: 85260
Administrative Contact Country: United States
Administrative Contact Country Code: US
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +1.4806242599
Administrative Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4806242599
Administrative Contact Email: LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ@domainsbyproxy.com
Billing Contact ID: GODA-328038015
Billing Contact Name: Registration Private
Billing Contact Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Billing Contact Address1: DomainsByProxy.com
Billing Contact Address2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Billing Contact City: Scottsdale
Billing Contact State/Province: Arizona
Billing Contact Postal Code: 85260
Billing Contact Country: United States
Billing Contact Country Code: US
Billing Contact Phone Number: +1.4806242599
Billing Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4806242599
Billing Contact Email: LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ@domainsbyproxy.com
Technical Contact ID: GODA-128038015
Technical Contact Name: Registration Private
Technical Contact Organization: Domains by Proxy, Inc.
Technical Contact Address1: DomainsByProxy.com
Technical Contact Address2: 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
Technical Contact City: Scottsdale
Technical Contact State/Province: Arizona
Technical Contact Postal Code: 85260
Technical Contact Country: United States
Technical Contact Country Code: US
Technical Contact Phone Number: +1.4806242599
Technical Contact Facsimile Number: +1.4806242599
Technical Contact Email: LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ@domainsbyproxy.com
Name Server: NS3.ZONEEDIT.COM
Name Server: NS9.ZONEEDIT.COM
Created by Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Last Updated by Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Domain Registration Date: Thu Feb 15 13:41:07 GMT 2007
Domain Expiration Date: Thu Feb 14 23:59:59 GMT 2008
Domain Last Updated Date: Tue Mar 20 00:06:39 GMT 2007



Posted by: MyGirl123

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Even though it can turn into a complete disaster? Glad the program survived.

So am I. I was paid again today and upgraded to Supreme Knight again

By the way, the leader of the catty crew was banned for a month from TG today!



Posted by: Vera250

I was paid again too....and upgraded to supreme knight....again....

LSP is up to 15% for today....so....smooth sailing here....

Vera



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyGirl123

By the way, the leader of the catty crew was banned for a month from TG today!


Now that's being catty....



Posted by: MyGirl123

Today's earnings have already been capped at the maximum of 15% again!
I am a Supreme Knightress again, am going to increase my deposits steadily. This program is highly addictive ...



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I agree MyGirl123 the first thing I do when I get up in the morning is go to their site.



Posted by: golddust

And here I was thinking HW comes to Web-life first thing every morning.http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/happies/faces/064.gif



Posted by: golddust

SOOOOO... the site seems to be missing in action.
Any knights know what's going on with the chess board?



Posted by: clifton

I don't know about the site, but they keep paying me the profits, lol



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I just noticed that the site is either gone or down too golddust.



Posted by: MyGirl123

Update:
The site has been taken off line so the techs can work on it - again!
LH has been attacked in two ways this time: a bot was creating fake accounts at lightning speed while a complaint about non-payments was sent to e-gold. Without checking anything, e-gold then blocked the LH account ...

The techs are working on protection against this bot activity, while the admins are working hard to find a permanent fix for the e-gold problem. All program funds have been secured and are no longer in the LH e-gold accounts

The member who's e-mail was abused to send the complaint to e-gold has sent them his own message, explaining that his e-mail was abused and that the program has never missed a payment. Hope it helps, but if not, other options besides e-gold are being explored 'as we type'.

Since no mass e-mails can be sent out at the moment, the admins are keeping members informed at MMG mainly I believe. Members have been called upon to spread the word in other forums, which I gladly do here.
The membership is like an army behind its leaders. Very heartwarming indeed.
I am looking forward to seeing the site back in action once again.



Posted by: golddust

Thanks for informing us here MyGirl123, and please let us know when the site is back up.
Clifton reports he is still getting paid; is this true for the majority of members?
I was interested in looking at the program at greater detail, it sounds like fun.
The "bots" are really beginning to create major difficulties for programs and forums alike.



Posted by: clifton

I did not get payment today, but I am not sure if they were payiing weekends. We'll see tomorrow



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

They are supposed to pay on weekend clifton. When I go to the site it now says they are under maintenance maybe they are delaying so that they can pack their bags lol but I don't think so.



Posted by: golddust

Seems to me the program was just getting up 'steam', given what problems have been reported, I'm leaning toward belief in the maintenance version.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Sounds like a logical conclusion clifton at least for the time being anyway.



Posted by: MyGirl123

This is an update for the program that LightHalzen is sharing a server with. It explains exactly what is going on with both sites. Since the admins of both programs are very supportive of each other, I'm sure the LH admins won't mind me posting the IM update here:
Quote:
Hello Everyone,

Time to bring you all up to speed on what has been going on.

We had hired a professional server support and maintenance company to go in and completely audit our server configuration, begin installing all the security and protection tools at their disposal, and hardening our server to the maximum security levels possible. However, within minutes before they were to begin, we were hit with a full-scale frontal attack.

Lighthalzen’s e-gold account was blocked, and their site was attacked by a bot that created 20,000 registered accounts on their database. Then, IM was hit with another massive SQL attack, which flooded out connections within seconds. Almost simultaneously, our server was hit with a massive DDOS attack, which affected both programs.

Between the Level 3 router and the upstream provider the router/firewall, blocked all incoming traffic to prevent a network overload. The attack subsided for a time and the block was removed, giving our server support team time to start their work. But as soon as our sites appeared online, the attacks began even more ferociously. The block was imposed again, which effectively made it impossible for our server support technicians located, in the U.S., to access the server to complete their work.

We had not released this information previously in order to not alert the attackers that we were working to block the attacks. However, this attack has been relentless and sustained since Friday. This is now a general problem affecting the entire network, so we have been waiting for the upstream provider to take the appropriate steps and cannot do anything until then. But we feel that at this that everyone should know what has been transpiring. Everyone is currently still working on a solution, but we cannot give you a definitive time as to when this will be resolved. Hang in there. We won't give up.




Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the update MyGirl123 at least now we have an idea about what is going on.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Just got this email:

Hello Knights!!

I bet you are thrilled to receive this email! First off let me start by saying that we could not send any emails out past few days as the site was offline, otherwise we would have loved to have updated you daily on the situation.

We were heavily DDOSed which was why getting the site up has been a mammoth task as the attacks continued for days on end.

Be rest assured that all security features will be in place which would require another 1-2days for our site to be fully operational again. We are very close to having our beloved Castle up and running again.

Thank you for your patience and understanding on this matter. The support at the various forums have been absolutely tremendous!!

As soon as everything is in order,we will email everyone and you can start upgrading and earning as before. So please keep checking your emails for updates Knights!

Long Live LightHalzen!!

Regards,
LightHalzen Team



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
This is an update for the program that LightHalzen is sharing a server with. It explains exactly what is going on with both sites. Since the admins of both programs are very supportive of each other,...


MyGirl123, what is the other site involved?



Posted by: MyGirl123

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
MyGirl123, what is the other site involved?

That would be InfiniteMultiplicity.
This program was targeted by these catty adversaries first and have purchased a dedicated server in Romania. After LightHalzen was attacked by the same people, the admins of both programs came together and IM allowed LH to be installed on their own server as well. This is why both programs suffered downtime simultaneously when the techs went at work to fight off the DDos attacks. Both programs are back up now but not yet operational.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Well the site is really back up now and I was paid for 04/08 direct to my egold.



Posted by: Vera250



This is really GREAT...

Site is back up, running and...PAYING again.

These admins are really doing a wonderfull job here.



Posted by: clifton

I got paid as well. Let's see for how long



Posted by: golddust

I've been having trouble getting logged in all day. I just found this update:

Quote:
update: Apparently The Security Update We Had Today Caused The Site To Be Unaccessible To Some People.


It Has Somewhere Somehow Blocked Off/ Denied Access To Most Traffic. What We Thought Will Keep Out Bad Traffic Backfired Instead.


Nonetheless, We Will Try To Resolve This Matter Asap And Are Getting Our Tech Side To Look Into The Reason Of Such Conflict. Deposits Will Be Disabled In The Mean Time Till Problem Is Resolved.


And If This Is Not Solved By Midnight, Cronjob Wont Be Able To Run, So We Will Have To Migrate Deposits To Tomorrow And Take It From There.


Sorry For This Unexpected Turn Of Event Which We Truly Deeply Wish For It Not To Have Happened But It Has. Sorry For Disappointing You Guys Once Again. We Really Are Trying Our Very Best Here.


We Request Everyone To Remain Clam And Understanding, We As Admins Never Wished For This To Happen Either.


Please Post This Update In Other Forums/ Inform Your Downlines.


On the other hand, I want to report I was paid yesterday, and it was all working fine then.




Posted by: MyGirl123

I am happy to report that I was paid as well yesterday (just like every single upgraded member!) and I managed to upgrade to White Knightress again before the technical problem arose.
Admins are responding to members' questions at MMG, they plan to get the site back up and payments out as fast as possible. Let's just hope it will be back up today, we don't really need a lot of downtime here while the program is still growing.

Edit: just managed to log in. Stats are still the same as yesterday so they have not finished yet but they can't be far off!



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

The site isn't coming up again but it looks like from previous posts here the admin have a handle on what is wrong and are addressing it.



Posted by: golddust

I was never able to upgrade yesterday, and not paid either.http://smilies.sofrayt.com/fsc/sobbing.gif



Posted by: golddust

Anyone with news, I still can't log onto the site.



Posted by: MyGirl123

This was posted at MMG today:

Dear Knights & Knightresses of LightHalzen,
First we would like to thank all our members and supporters for truly supporting us and sending us so many PM’s. It is you that keep us striving so hard. If it were not for the members we and many other Admins might have given up by now. WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP!
As many of you know we have been up and down now for about 48 hours. First and foremost these issues are not forever and we will be back up and running as per normal very soon. As many of you know we like to keep you all updated at all times and up to the minute. For the past 48 hours we have been under severe DDOS attack. Although we have DDOS protection. The continued severity of the DDoS attack we are currently facing has exceeded our protection means. Our provider's technical support staff are actively working to discover a method of mitigation.
We have waited until now to tell everyone because we didn’t want the attackers to think they were getting the best of us. With this being said we are fighting this heads on and have something in store for these childish attackers. Although we cannot guarantee a definite time line, we are working around the clock to have LH and all our members happy once again.
Please everyone make us proud and keep showing your support in all the forums and blog’s. Your money is in safe hands. Just remember that we have built this for you, cherish it as if it is your own just as we do. We are just as sick and slept deprived as many of you are. LH and its shining Knights will be riding again very soon.
Since our mass email is disabled for security purposes at this time, please everyone remember to keep yourself updated at our official forum: www.got-paid-forum.com or over at MMG.
And MODs, you guys rock our world. http://www.moneymakergroup.com/styl...fault/blush.gif
Kind Regards,
Gladiators
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/styl...ault/diablo.gif Lemon & Unsaid http://www.moneymakergroup.com/styl...ault/diablo.gif




Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for posting the update MyGirl123.



Posted by: golddust

I was just coming here to post this, thanks mygirl123. It is amazing to me - so many nay-sayers just can't wait to post something negative about the status of LH. People who are involved in ddosing maybe?
Bad enough we all deal with scams everyday presented as real investment, blah, blah, blah. LH is for fun and could turn out to be very profitable. Is this the reason for negativity?
Negativity attracts negative. Obvious to me what these people will get. They bring it on themselves.

"Positive thoughts (joy, happiness, fulfillment, achievement,worthiness) -
have positive results (enthusiasm, calm, well-being, ease, energy, love).
Negative thoughts (judgment, unworthiness, mistrust, resentment, fear) -
produce negative results (tension, anxiety, alienation, anger, fatigue)." - - Peter McWilliams




Posted by: clifton

Golddust, many people are negative in the HYIP world, because it is a farce, not because they are negative in life. Don't judge about someone by seeing their attitude to only one thing in life. I know a lot of people (including myself) who are very positive in life, work and everything (or even if you want in any non-HYIP forums), but are "naysayers" when it comes to HYIP.



Posted by: MyGirl123

Very interesting, clifton. I didn't know there were people like that ...
Meanwhile, it looks like LightHalzen is back up to speed! Upgrading has been enabled once again and if the site stays up and stable, I think payments will start again after midnight server time!



Posted by: clifton

Lol, MyGirl123, I am sure if you visit some forum about UFO you'll find a lot of naysayers but this does not mean they are negative people.
Anyway, I am still positive on LigthHalzen and think I'll get at least few more payments



Posted by: golddust

Clifton, disbelieving in a program or having a negative attitude as you say, and taking negative action are two different things. I may think a program is a scam but to me, in this arena it is a neutral thought. To take a negative action such as spreading slander, or making a ddos attack, or hacking, attracts negative re-action, such as tension, anxiety, etc. Consider this the same as karma.
The dangerous thing about karma, is it can effect one's life at any point in time and space with positive or negative results that may be totally unrelated to the positive or negative thoughts or deeds one may have expressed. Overall it is best to understand the power of thoughts as they direct action, to find a balance in the yin and the yang.
BTW - I am not "judging" just making an opinion, which may or may not be the reason there are so many miserable people in HYIPs. Even if in competition with LH, why not participate in the success rather than attempt a demise? Related to LH, just seems this would be far more satisfying and fun.



Posted by: clifton

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
To take a negative action such as spreading slander, or making a ddos attack, or hacking, attracts negative re-action, such as tension, anxiety, etc. Consider this the same as karma.


Oh, if you meant that kind of people, I completely agree.



Posted by: Vera250

Ladies and Gentlemen

Today I was paid by LightHalzen.....

I'm a very happy member here.....this is one of very few programs that I can't have negative feelings about.....why.....no idea...maybe female intuïtion.......I hope it won't let me down....now.....meanwhile the admins have sent out some updates...here they are.....

Looks we'll have to be patient again for a few days.

UPDATE 1

Quote:
FELLOWSHIP OF THE KNIGHTHOOD. AFTER TONS OF MEETINGS WITH THE BIG SHOTS, WE ARE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE COME UP WITH A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ TO STAY UP, UP AND UP FOR EVERYONE WITH NO FURTHER HICCUPS.


BUT, THIS COMPLETE OVERHAUL AND UPGRADE WHICH WILL INVOLVE ALMOST EVERYTHING FROM SCRIPT TO SECURITY TO SERVER EQUIPMENT UPGRADES WILL TAKE US AT LEAST A COUPLE OF DAYS AS ITS THE WEEKEND NOW.


SITE WILL BE TAKEN DOWN TEMPORARILY PENDING THE COMPLETE CASTLE REBUILT.


PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS FOR THE FUTURE OF LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ.


A FEW DAYS OFFLINE IN EXCHANGE FOR A WORRY-FREE, STRESS-FREE AND HICCUPLESS BRAND NEW LIGHTHALZEN. I THINK THAT IS MORE THAN A FAIR TRADE.


SINCE ALL PAYOUTS FOR TODAY HAVE BEEN CLEARED, WHEN WE COME BACK LIVE, UPGRADES WILL BE ENABLED AND WE WILL PICK OFF RIGHT FROM WHERE WE STOPPED.


IN THE MEAN TIME, PLEASE KEEP YOURSELF UPDATED THROUGH THE FORUMS.
www.got-paid-forum.com and http://www.moneymakergroup.com/inde...howtopic=132249



WE ADMINS WILL BE AROUND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BUT IF WE ARE NOT, THE MODS WILL BE AROUND TO ASSIST YOU GUYS.


PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS DEFINITELY A POSITIVE CHANGE. LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ HAS REAL DETERMINED ENEMIES BUT LET US TELL THEM SOMETHING, LIGHTHALZEN IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL SITE THAT WILL BACK OFF AND DIE. WE WILL FIGHT ON TO ENSURE AN IMMENSE SUCCESS FOR A BETTER FUTURE, FOR A BETTER HOPE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.


FIGHT ON KNIGHTS OF LIGHTHALZEN, LONG LIVE LIGHTHALZEN.


STRONGER AND TOUGHER WE SHALL BE.


MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US.


SINCERELY,


YOUR EXTREMELY DETERMINED AND DEDICATED GLADIATOR ADMINS

PS: CLING ON TO YOUR PAYOUTS. ITS JUST A TEASE OF WHATS UP AND COMING!


UPDATE 2
Quote:
This post was made by Knight Joverh of LightHalzen which we feel that should be viewed by all:

****************************************
Security is being stressed as an extreme importance and a top priority. Like i do i\\\'m sure all of you want lighthalzen up and running as smooth as possible. Never before have i seen an hyip take off as rapidly as LightHalzen.

Unfornately, for Lemon and Unsaid hackers and evil doers are trying like never before to destroy the site. So why aren\\\'t the other hyips and autosurfs being targeted like this? For those who have been around the block when it comes to hyips and surfs.. we all know the most successful sites are the ones being targeted.

So you may ask .. why haven\\\'t all the security measures been in place when the site began. There have been plenty of security measures in place but the truth is no one knew including the admins themselves the amount of success this site would have and the length attackers would go. As Lemon pointed out the attackers probably have spent 50K trying to take down the site. How could anyone fathom something like this would happen. So, the security measures that are taken have to be to the utmost extreme. So yes we must wait a couple more days. Afterwards lighthalzen will be stronger than ever.

The membership here has been one of the most supportive that i\\\'ve ever seen. Why is it so supportive you might ask? Because of the concept, because of the passion the 2 admins shown in this and other forums, because of the creativity, because of the innovative custom programming coding that has never been seen, because of the publicity it\\\'s receiving from around the internet reaching videocasts of ASA(http://www.asamonitor.com/newscast.html) and 24surf(http://www.24surfmonitor.com/new/video.php).

Most of you know everything that i\\\'m saying it is true. But this message is mostly for the newbies, the ones who are skeptical because they\\\'ve been taken for a ride and been scammed or those who have not been following this thread and don\\\'t have time to read 900 pages. So, please everyone continue your support as you have. We all know that lighthalzen is the cateogory of elite hyips and seriously could be the most popular and successful hyip of 2007.

****************************************

Please keep yourself updated here:
http://got-paid-forum.com/index.php?showtopic=3004
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/inde...howtopic=132249





Posted by: clifton

As predicted, I was paid too



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the undate Vera250.



Posted by: golddust

This is now posted on the site:
Quote:
LIGHTHALZEN.BIZ is temporarly offline in order to upgrade our server and network equipment.

Please be assured we are not gone.

We hope to have the website back online very soon, better than ever.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Management - lighthalzen.biz

April 14, 2007




Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the update golddust. This has been going on for a couple of weeks or more hasn't it?



Posted by: MyGirl123

Yeah, it's really been a roller coaster ride ...
Looking forward to quieter times at LH soon. No word on when the site will be back, it may be a few more days ...
I was paid too a few days ago (just like everyone else) and can wait it out in profit now

To clifton: I hope you noticed the in my post.



Posted by: clifton

Quote:
Originally Posted by MyGirl123
To clifton: I hope you noticed the in my post.


I did, but still wanted to say about the UFOs.
(they are coming! lol. )



Posted by: golddust

This was posted at MMG in the "Lighthalzen" thread, post #14008

Quote:
Originally Posted by lemon
@ Apr 16 2007, 11:12 PM
UPDATE::: EVERYTHING IS UNDERWAY.WE ADMINS ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO HAVE OUR CASTLE FORTIFIED SO THAT WHEN WE DO RETURN, THINGS WLD TAKE OFF EXACTLY WHERE WE LEFT OFF. WE WILL ALSO BE HOLDING A MEETING FOR ALL THE MODS TO BRIEF THEM ON THE UPCOMING EXCITING EVENTS AT LIGHTHALZEN. MEETING TIME AND VENUE WILL BE UPDATED TOMORROW.



Quote:
Originally Posted by unsaid
Site will most probably come up only after the mod meeting as we want them to be equipped to answer the questions that will arise from the changes on the site.
But worry not, as the following will definitely NOT be changed
1) Speedy daily payouts
2) 150% (Max cap@15%)
3) The Knight System
4) Ref @3%
.....

A timeframe will be posted tomorrow, after the mod meeting.




Posted by: MyGirl123

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
I did, but still wanted to say about the UFOs.
(they are coming! lol. )

LOL, Understood!

This mass e-mail was sent out to the LightHalzen membership today!

UPDATE: SITE WILL BE BACK LIVE ON THURSDAY 26TH 2007 12AM EST

BY TOMORROW, THE SITE WILL MOST PROBABLY BE UP BUT JUST FOR MERE TESTING PURPOSES.

PLEASE REMAIN PATIENT AND UNDERSTANDING AND TREAT THIS AS A PRE-LAUNCH.

DON\\\'T BE TOO FOCUSED ON THE PRESENT DOWNTIME, INSTEAD LOOK FURTHER INTO THE FUTURE WHERE LIGHTHALZEN WILL BE PAYING FOR MONTHS AHEAD.

WE ARE JUST SACRIFICING A COUPLE MORE DAYS IN EXCHANGE FOR A BRIGHTER FUTURE.

KNIGHTHOOD! ARE YOU GUYS READY TO RETIRE YOUNG!?

****************************************
8 more days, and counting ...



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Many thanks for the update MyGirl123.



Posted by: golddust

I hope no one comes along to trump my knight...



Posted by: feelhappy

well lighthalzen will come back
just checked out this on mmg and admin promised that he wil be back within a week or so!



Posted by: golddust

There's been lots of communication from the admin while the site has been offline over the past week.
Here is the latest:
Quote:
LIGHTHALZEN'S NEW HOMEPAGE

What is LightHalzen?
LightHalzen is a one-stop-centre for e-book purchases while functioning as an advertising and traffic exchange portal. We help our members and customers generate traffic to their websites though paid emails and advertisement slots.

We are currently the hottest spot for advertising! Advertise with us and watch your traffic soar and sales figure sizzle as all of our registered ever-growing database of members will be viewing your ads while doing their daily ads viewing.

We also offer a very lucrative opportunity to our members who have purchased e-books with us through our rebate based system devised on a profit sharing concept. Do check out also our Lotto Potto section where you can try your luck by playing real small and winning real BIG!

What is Profit Sharing?
Profit sharing is a new-age model which shares out income generated from e-books and ads sales on the site in form of rebates to its members. This model does not use a fixed based earnings/time span model where you are entitled to receive a return in a fixed amount of time.

With the fixed based earnings/timespan, new income needs to come in constantly daily or else the program will run out of funds to pay out to the members leaving them with a partial or total loss.

In LightHalzen, you just keep earning rebates on your purchases till you reach the max of 150%, because the system never runs dry. This way the risk of losing out next to the fixed earnings/time span model is next to zero.

You may also refer new members and enjoy a 3% referral bonuses on your referrals total unit purchase.
How it Works?

To profit with us, you need to buy shares in the program. After your share purchase have been confirmed, you will be brought to a page where you can pick an e-book of your choice.

Each unit is $1. You will keep earning the daily rebates on each unit until you have earned 150% of the unit back.

So for every $1 unit you purchase, you will get back $1.50. You keep on earning daily until you reach 150%.

The daily rebates will depend on the Daily LSP [Live Share Percentage] and your knight level.

The Daily LSP is calculated based on income generated by the site which includes sales of e-books, advertisement slots, banner impressions, paid emails and also lotto sales.

IMPORTANT: In order to get the daily rebates, you must view at least 5 ads daily by clicking the "View Ads" tab in your members area.

75% of the program's Daily Income generated from e-books and ads sales are paid out as the daily rebates on each unit and this is shown as the Daily LSP amount in the statistics box.

However, for the stability of this program, the Daily LSP will be set at a max cap of 15%. Any excess will be spilled over to the following day's LSP.

12% is stored as Reserve Fund so as to help boost the Daily LSP during slow days.

9% is used for Hosting, Advertising, Site Maintenance and Admin costs.

3% is used to pay out Referral Bonuses.

1% is to be split among the Supreme Knights [members who repurchase 100% or more of their daily payouts].

What is the Twist?

Why Profit Sharing? You may ask. Well this is because we truly believe its a workable system, just needs to be revamped, thats all. And, that's why we came up with LightHalzen, a profit sharing system with a twist signifying the dawn of a new era.

The very reason why a Profit Sharing System would fail is due to the lack of repurchase ie being ravaged by hit-and-runners. However, its quite obvious as to why one would be afraid to repurchase. They fear that they stand to lose and have their purchases stuck in the site for a long, long time.

Hit-and-Runners have long been the main blame for the downfall of any program. But, we strongly believe that if one is staring at a long term lucrative opportunity, one would not desire to hit-and-run at all.

There have been many solutions out there in the industry from capping daily spend, capping daily ROI to lowering total ROI and so forth. All these only merely delay the problem at hand. What we truly need is to tackle the root of the problem: lack of repurchase!

One way is to enforce a 50/50 rule. However, this would be coercion. As we support free-will, we do not wish to take that route. What we have implemented is a 'double standard system' through different knight levels.

With this in place, repurchasing is left to the sole discretion of members. Just that with a strong system in place, we have made the choice really easy for our members.

1) TO REPURCHASE
- You will earn your rebates 2X FASTER.
- You will earn way more rebates in the long run.

2) TO NOT REPURCHASE
- You will still get your rebates but 2X SLOWER.
- You will earn way less rebates due to your one time purchase.


The right choice is very obvious.

But the choice is in your hands.

Start buying E-books Today!


This seems quite different than the program description from the original launch; more focus on advertising and promotion as the means to the profits sharing. And having to click ads?
I'm wondering if they will honor refund requests?


golddust



Posted by: MyGirl123

Well, I have already tried the new ad view feature and it is really simple. Basically, LH has now become a profit share autosurf. The ads rotate automatically, 10 seconds each, so you are done in under a minute.
When you upgrade, you pick an e-book, which you will have paid for with your upgrade amount (any amount for any e-book is what I understand so far).

The emphasis on selling e-books, advertising and promotion is undoubtedly meant to get rid of the 'ponzi' image. It was a pure ponzi when it launched, I guess at least it won't be just that anymore from now on.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Has anyone actually been able to log in yet?



Posted by: cyrano

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardlyworkin
Has anyone actually been able to log in yet?


Yes! The site is working without any problems for me.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrano
Yes! The site is working without any problems for me.


Still not working right for me, get the main screen but when I go to log in it takes me back to the main screen.



Posted by: golddust

Sounds like you have a "NO script" issue - if you use FF. If not then probably you don't have Java script turned on.
I understood LH was not going to be turned on until 4/26, and upgrades are disabled. Essentially, no one is making money at this time? Does the admin have all accounts updated? I've notice some problems with credit for upgrades made when the site was more down than up, before it was taken down.
I appreciate what you are saying mygirl123 about making changes to ensure LH is not seen as a ponzi, however it has changed from the original format and some may no longer be interested.
Has anyone noticed refunding activity or seen replies from the admins about this?



Posted by: MyGirl123

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Sounds like you have a "NO script" issue - if you use FF. If not then probably you don't have Java script turned on.
I understood LH was not going to be turned on until 4/26, and upgrades are disabled. Essentially, no one is making money at this time? Does the admin have all accounts updated? I've notice some problems with credit for upgrades made when the site was more down than up, before it was taken down.
I appreciate what you are saying mygirl123 about making changes to ensure LH is not seen as a ponzi, however it has changed from the original format and some may no longer be interested.
Has anyone noticed refunding activity or seen replies from the admins about this?
- Correct, no one is making money at this time. Upgrading will be enabled on the 26th, so the first payments will go out on the 27th, right after midnight. Signup has already been enabled.
- I believe most of the upgrade glitches have been fixed. Both admins can be contacted through the LH support link or through PM at MMG forum (their usernames are lemon and unsaid) if members still see errors in their accounts.
- If some lose interest in this program due to the changes, I can only imagine that this would be because they now have to log in each day and perform a few tasks. The earning is still the same. Missing a day will not affect the end result. When you don't view the ads on one day, your upgrades are simply put on hold until you do. Each upgrade will still yield 150%.
- I have seen at least one member being refunded his deposits minus his earnings. A refund does mean you will not be able to rejoin later ...

I am looking forward to seeing the giant in action again!



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
- If some lose interest in this program due to the changes, I can only imagine that this would be because they now have to log in each day and perform a few tasks. The earning is still the same. Missing a day will not affect the end result. When you don't view the ads on one day, your upgrades are simply put on hold until you do. Each upgrade will still yield 150%.


I am confused by this mygirl123; interest could be lost by not logging in and performing a few tasks? What tasks? Has this been communicated to members other than on MMG?
On the other hand you've said, " Missing a day will not affect the end result."
Are you really saying that interest is not lost, it is just "put on hold" until the 'tasks' are completed?

I withhold opinion about this being a "giant".



Posted by: cyrano

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
I am confused by this mygirl123; interest could be lost by not logging in and performing a few tasks? What tasks? Has this been communicated to members other than on MMG?
On the other hand you've said, " Missing a day will not affect the end result."
Are you really saying that interest is not lost, it is just "put on hold" until the 'tasks' are completed?

I withhold opinion about this being a "giant".



Members have received emails with the necessary infos.
The new site is updated with the new rules.Easy to read and to understand.



Posted by: clifton

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrano
Members have received emails with the necessary infos.
The new site is updated with the new rules.Easy to read and to understand.


What about payments? I don't give a dime for their rules, when they have not paid me for long time.



Posted by: cyrano

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
What about payments? I don't give a dime for their rules, when they have not paid me for long time.



I replied to golddust's comment.
No one was talking to you about payments.
As a member you should know the reasons why.
Not paid for a long time?? 12 days isn't that long.
The game will restart tomorrow.Let's have some fun in making money again.



Posted by: clifton

Quote:
Originally Posted by cyrano
I replied to golddust's comment.
No one was talking to you about payments.


I talk about payments, doesn't matter if someone was talking about that before or not.
12 days is quite long for such kind of HYIP games.



Posted by: cyrano

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
I talk about payments, doesn't matter if someone was talking about that before or not.
12 days is quite long for such kind of HYIP games.


It does matter because you quoted my post and i didn't write about payments.
We all know that LH is just a game but as an experienced gambler you should have realized that LH is a quality game which has the potential to make us some good profit.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Their first payout is supposed to be at 12AM on the 26th.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Posted on Another Forum Yesterday:

Guys, we just got off a meeting with our tech guys and they said that they have one final major security upgrade. It should not take more than 24 hours.

We asked them if we could just go LIVE, pending the security upgrade to meet our timeline but they advised strongly against it.

So I guess LH will have no choice but to go live probably a day later than planned, after we get the green light from the tech guys.

Guys, please don't flame us, we are really drained as well but we have waited so long, whats a day more for a fortified castle right?

We have real determined enemies, so we wish not to take our chances.

Once again we appeal for members to show the amazing patience and understanding for LH.

Thank you for your faith in us, and sorry once again.



Posted by: MyGirl123

Well, it has finally happened: LightHalzen is open for business.
The maximum return for the day has already been reached!
This is the latest e-mail update:
Quote:
Dear Knights,

It has been a short 3 hours since we have gone LIVE and we are proud to announce that the LSP have once again hit the 15% MAX LSP.

Purchases are pouring in with no signs of slowing down which clearly indicates the faith members have towards LightHalzen which in no way was affected by the downtime due to the major overhaul.

So, if you have not made your purchases, you may proceed to do so to earn the 15% MAX LSP of the day.

Please do not forget to view at least 5 ads by clicking the 'View Ads' tab in your members area to be eligible for the rebates.

Rebate payouts will resume tomorrow after midnight server time.

Thank you for all your patience and understanding, we are now back stronger than ever!

Long Live LightHalzen!



Sincerely,

LightHalzen Team

*****************************************
Check out the coolest get paid to post forum on the planet! http://got-paid-forum.com/




Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the update MyGirl123 I just wonder how long they can really last.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the update MyGirl123 just hope this lasts for a while now.



Posted by: MyGirl123

I hope so too.
I was paid again today!
I am in profit and I am making sure I stay in profit, just to be on the safe side. I certainly hope this will go well for a while now because it is a very nice earner for me!
Considering the latest developments at e-gold, I also hope they will add another payment processor so we can move our funds out of e-gold gradually.



Posted by: Vera250

I'm glad that LightHalzen is back and PAYING....

It looks like all problems are solved....


I upgraded again to Supreme Knight !!!



Posted by: MyGirl123

Another update - e-mail update should follow later today.
Quote:
Alright guys, this will be a simple update, a detailed one will be mass emailed out later after payouts.

Amidst current development of the e-gold drama, LightHalzen Administration have decided to take precautionary measures to prevent future unfortunate events, as we do not want to take chances with member's money.

LH will be immediately put on hold, pending the following:
1) A decision within the next few hours will be made as to which payment processor will be used as our BACKUP payment processor.

You guys will be informed after this decision so you have time to prepare your funding options.

Nonetheless, E-Gold will still remain as one of the payment option available.

2) After complete integration of the new payment processor into the script.

Payouts for today will be completed, so please hang on to your payouts and not make donations to scammers out there.

And of course don't forget to post and vote once paid.

And please keep other forums and your downlines updated.

A detailed update will be mass emailed to members shortly.

And ...

and in case anyone wondering why not let the site run?

Amidst integration of the new payment processors, there may be problem with upgrades. So the site must be put on hold.

In the meantime, people are getting wary of e-gold, not about its legal issues as it will take months to resolve but the users, exchangers and programs who are cutting ties with e-gold.

This may adversely affect the e-book sales at LightHalzen.

And we are also getting voluminous tickets requesting for additional payment processors.

Hang in there knights, just waiting for confirmation from the programmer, before we email.

And with all the testing that will be going on to ensure the integration is smooth, upgrades will probably end up only being enabled on Monday.

Well, today is a Sunday, so go out have fun, spend some quality time with your family and friends.

When you come back, an email update could be sitting in your inbox already

I got paid again today, my 22nd payment.
I had hoped they would add at least one other payment processor, I don't mind enjoying a Sunday off. (Was going to anyway ... )



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Again, thanks for the update MyGirl123 I saw something on their website but not in that kind of detail. We'll see what happens next. I also was paid to my egold so now we will just sit and wait.



Posted by: golddust

It now appears ebullion is being added as a new processor and payments have been stopped until May 2 to make the necessary changes.



Posted by: MyGirl123

Well, another shocker at LightHalzen yesterday:
Quote:
Dear Knights,

We are extremely delighted to present you the promised LightHalzen Stage 3 Revamp: Eternity Rocks!

Foresight, looking ahead is whats needed to succeed in this industry instead of retrospecting on events and regretting on what should have/could have been done in hindsight.

We have seen the demise of some Giants in this industry lately coming up with solutions in the 11th hour when their program is already in the brink of collapse or worse yet, collapsed. If at all, one should learn from these mistakes and not only think far ahead but act in advance. Hence, at LightHalzen, we are going to do things in the reverse.

These are the changes that will take effect immediately:

1) Max total rebates per share will be dropped from 150% to 120%

2) Daily MAX LSP limit of 15% will be dropped to 5%

3) Referal bonuses will be dropped from 3% to 1% (as announced before)


Right now we are at our peak averaging around 50-100 sign ups per day. We are growing at a consistent rate and this change is not going to
halt the growth of our site whatsoever. If at all, implementing these changes at this juncture will boost the longevity and stability of LightHalzen beyond our wildest dreams.

Our extensive advertising and promotion campaign is attracting investors from all over, thus expect the site to expand even further. Moreover, having an impeccable fast paying record for 27 days with LSP at its max 15% daily in itself has put LightHalzen on the Spotlight!

Which is why we feel that implementing this change right now is better than doing it few months down the road.

Don't be too focused on the present, instead, look forward into the future where this change could well possibly be the sole reason that make LH last for months or years ahead.

I'm giving credit to my knights that this implementation will be embraced by all for the good of LightHalzen's future.

LightHalzen Stage 3 Revamp: Eternity Rocks!


Extremely Excited & Yours Truly,

LightHalzen Team

Well, I'm glad they are excited ... a lot of members are less pleased.
I will try to edit the first post of this thread so it reflects these changes.

Oh yeah, I got paid today too. Not as much as I had hoped ...



Posted by: Vera250



I also was shocked yesterday....just as they made the changes...I had upgraded again....

In the morning I checked....and LSP was 15%...so in the afternoon I upgraded without looking again.....wished I did....

The most annoying part I find is that they made these drastic changes without any notice to the members !!!!

They just keep going on and on and on......

What's next to come....

I hope they keep up the payments for 48 days...since I'm NOT respending for now!!!

Let them prove themselves first....

At the moment I'm so sceptic about these so called honest admins....



Posted by: golddust

I guess there are 2 sides to every story; the admins are doing what they see as necessary to maintain stability; but the changes are going to hurt growth. On the other hand, 120% per unit, is not an unreasonable return, depending on how long it takes to achieve the return.
Moving on, no one should be surprised when admins make unannounced changes, in this arena perfectly normal. http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v...by_Catharsi.gif



Posted by: forwardone

Quote:
Our Beloved Knights and Knightresses,


We bring this unfortunate news with a laden heart. This is going to be a detailed and an honest email filling you in on the 'behind the scenes' that we admins went through for the past 2-3months, so please take the time to read it.

First off, our heartfelt gratitude goes out to alot of you who supported us through thick and thin and believed in us by re-purchasing and promoting our site. Thank you for the trust and confidence you have placed in our unique Knight system.

Its a great concept which fell prey to many variables and did not reach its full potential. Purchases and new membership did not trickle in as expected past few weeks especially after the egold situation.

On hindsight, as many of our knights know, we went through many obstacles from host complains and moving servers multiple times to false accusations to egold and having many of our egold accounts blocked then and even now. Even when we paid promptly everyday the site was up, we were victims of fake bad votes. There was also trolling especially from members who are paid and are in profit. The biggest blow of all were the 22 days of incessant DDoS attacks that took us offline for almost 2 weeks and put a dent on our success. Nevertheless, we paid for top-notch security which kept the site online despite the continued DDoS attacks. However, our worst fear came true and it was all a little too late by then.

Up until the DDoS attacks, site was doing phenomenally well to the extent that if that exponential growth had continued without any disruptions,
we would have build up a reserve so huge that it would have helped LightHalzen sustain for many months down the road. Even after engaging Black Lotus Anti-DDoS package, we were still being heavily DDoSed and site had to sustain further downtime. This time around, new members especially those who just joined our esteemed Knighthood, confidence amongst them diminished substantially and started to withdraw their rebates just to exit out of the program. Unfortunately momemtum lost from then on. Even then, we admins persevered and embarked on an extensive advertising and promotional campaign all over monitors and numerous forums. The quest to succeed was driving us forward.

Ultimately, the biggest unexpected blow was the news of egold indictment. Egold being our only payment processor until then caused a major impact on our program as many in the industry went on a panic mode pulling their funds out and even members didn't re-purchase as much as they used to. The egold fiasco had a ripple effect on the industry as a whole which further crushed the momentum as new membership was at a standtill and this only further crippled the site. After the egold drama, things did not pick up as we had hoped and thats when we finally dug into the reserve pool of funds. This was necessary as we were not at the stage to allow the LSP to dip below the MAX LEVEL. If we did not do what we did, there would have been a total loss of momentum which would have resulted in the sudden death of the site back then. We were hoping that the panic mode would die down but if you recalled, our thread at MMG was turned into an egold discussion thread.

Fear and uncertainty was rampant in the air. The first course of action we took was to quickly add another payment processor E-Bullion, hoping in vain that things would pick up. Unfortunately, this move did not bring about the results we had hoped for and we had depleted our reserves by then.
Which was why Stage 3 Revamp was vital but this led to a major uproar amongst the masses who started pulling out from the program. Our next move was to add

Alertpay but even then, we admins ended up using all of our admin funds to help boost the program, hoping in vain once again that the situation would improve with stable rates and cycle the shares out.

As its evident, its been a constant long drawn out battle for us admins with tons of variables which were beyond our control but yet, we kept coming up with various solutions and never once gave up hope. Someone else in our shoes would have bailed out long ago. We were determined to run this site which was why we continued embarking on our advertising and promotional campaign, buying banners and sponsoring vidcasts. Disgruntled members due to the reduced max LSP did not wish to vote anymore. Paying promptly did not matter anymore as people were more into high risky ROI gambling.

Even after 2 weeks of max 5% LSP, site still failed to show any improvement and since reserves were depleted completely, we could not complete our payouts yesterday as we had to wait the following day's purchases to clear the previous day's rebates. When current purchases and reserves are in negative and with purchases not trickling in as expected, we are left with no option but to close the doors of our beloved Castle. Some may wonder, this is a Profit Share site, why not just let LSP take a dip? This wont work out, because it will just cause a domino effect where the next day is 1% followed by 0.1% then 0.01%. If LightHalzen was launched last year, we might have succeeded. However, factors beyond our control such as the egold fiasco is something we never anticipated to hit us as hard as it did.

This has been a great learning curve especially in terms of getting the best security and which ads and promotions bring about maximum exposure for a site but most importantly, we had the pleasure and feel blessed to have met some of the best people left standing in this industry.

We would fondly miss our [milk] Mods and many of our superb Knights to which we can not thank enough. May God Bless all of you with abundance of wealth and good health.

Refunds would be impossible as reserves have been depleted to a negative level. And for those who wish to audit our egold accounts, please feel free to email us for login details.

We admins will still be around the forums and please accept our apology for those who incurred losses. We will still be here to answer any queries and concern you might have and are not going anywhere.



Sincerely,

LightHalzen Team


Moved folders.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Saw that this morning on their site and another one bites the dust. Their update is typical to those sites that don't just run away when they close down. Here they try and justify their position and maybe bait members for the next one.



Posted by: MyGirl123

Well ... I had not expected this but here is another e-mail I just received from LightHalzen, entitled "A New Hope"
Quote:
Knights of LightHalzen,

After serious consideration, the LightHalzen Administration have come up with a solution for those who are at lost.

LightHalzen will be ressurected on Monday, May 28th 2007 12AM EST (Server Time).

All rules will remain the same except for the following changes:


1) All those in profit* will have their account history wiped clean.

2) All those at lost* will have their account history wiped clean also but their lost amount credited as new shares to their account.

3) The rates will remain at 120% MAX REBATES and 5% MAX DAILY LSP.

4) There will be a slight change to the Knight System:

~ Supreme Knight will be getting 100% of Daily LSP

~ White Knight will be getting 50% of Daily LSP

~ Dark Knight will be getting 0% of Daily LSP

5) Payment processors available: E-Gold, E-Bullion, AlertPay


Please do not email us whether or not you are at profit/loss as we have already tabulated those who are and those who are not. These sort of emails will not be entertained.

A Chance, A Hope, A Future


Sincerely,

LightHalzen Team

************************************************** *******************
*Profit/Loss will be derived based on your Total Purchased VS Total Paid Out


I know a lot of people will be very sceptical. You should know that tons of members, in profit or not, have asked for a re-launch all day yesterday.
I was modestly in profit and I don't know if I will upgrade here again because I am just a small spender and re-upgrading 50% for just 2.5% isn't exactly a gold mine for me. But if I don't participate anymore, it won't be because I don't trust the admins!
Let's see what happens next ... I'm surprised e-gold is still an option.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the information MyGirl123 so now we'll wait till Monday and see what happens.



Posted by: forwardone

Interesting turnaround.




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