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Dead Man forced to pay $600

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Posted by: okosh




The following REALLY happened....Here in my state!!

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Landlord sues over dead man's broken lease


Article from: http://www.news.com.au/images/sources/h14_heraldsun.gif
January 25, 2008 12:00am


EXCLUSIVE: A LANDLORD has been labelled heartless after he took a woman to court to get $600 from her father who broke the lease - by dying.

The unrepentant landlord Antony Lee has told the Herald Sun he had no problems taking the case to a tribunal, saying: "A tenant has died. Is that my problem?"

In a case that has sparked calls for a review of the state's tenancy laws, the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal this week upheld Mr Lee's claim for almost one month's rent, to be paid from the estate of Michael James Ward, 64.

Ms Theresa Duggan, said she had spent days and hundreds of dollars cleaning the Bennett Court home in Traralgon after her father's death there last December.

Despite the clean-up, the landlord demanded compensation for rental loss.

"The law told him he could, but he had no reason to -- everything was clean. It was just heartless," Ms Duggan said.

"I was so angry. It's such a miserable thing to do."

Mr Ward died from a heart attack on December 6.

He had another eight months to run on his 12-month lease.

The law says that when a tenant dies, the tenant's representative must give 28 days' notice that the lease will be broken to terminate the lease.

If, after advertising, the landlord cannot find a new tenant during that period, the landlord can make a claim against the dead tenant's estate for lost rent.

It means the law holds grieving relatives liable for a landlord's lost rent.

The revelation came as a cruel shock to Ms Duggan, who had to take out a $6000 loan to pay for her father's funeral.

"I just don't think it's fair," she said. "I would like to warn other lessees that if you are going to die suddenly, make sure you have contacted the landlord in writing 28 days before you depart so that your family doesn't have to go through the extra unnecessary trauma."

Tenants Union of Victoria tenant advocate Bill Darling said the 28-day period should be revised because of the accommodation crisis.

"In the current rental market, with the amazing shortage of affordable rental properties, we would suggest something more akin to seven to 14 days' notice would be appropriate because, depending on the location and size of the premises, there should be no problem renting it."

Mr Lee said he took the case to the tribunal on advice from his real estate agent.

"I've been advised by my agent to get it back," he said.

He considered abandoning his claim out of compassion, but decided to proceed.

"I've thought about that," he said. "But would you?"

Mr Lee, who owns two homes in Traralgon, said he was still paying off the mortgages on his properties.

He said he had advertised for new tenants in the Bennett Court home, but had had no takers.

He said it remained vacant, but was no longer available for rent. Inquires with his real estate agent confirmed it was no longer on their rental list.





Posted by: forwardone

We get into the habit of hearing a far out story and saying "only in America" but that`s just changed.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I'm sure there are bizzare stories like this in all countries.



Posted by: Spunner

And I just started renting in that same state - let's hope I don't die! eeek



Posted by: golddust

Seems to me "death" falls under the 'force majeure' or "Acts of God" exclusions clause, and those should work equitably for the landlord and the tenant. In addition, I believe the landlord can have a "loss of income" insurance policy that could/should cover this. After all, he could loose his property by fire, and a property insurance policy would cover it, but not the loss of rents.
This could cost conservatively be handled in "small claims court" in the US, don't know about the UK.



Posted by: okosh

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Originally Posted by golddust
This could cost conservatively be handled in "small claims court" in the US, don't know about the UK.


Called a tribuneral here in Australia...

What the story does not tell us is the finantial position of the landlord...
I'm sure if he had mortgage that the bank will still want payment for that month...



Posted by: okosh

Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardone
We get into the habit of hearing a far out story and saying "only in America" but that`s just changed.


Would such a story have the following outcome in America??...

I say...Only in Australia!!




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Refund offer on dead man's $600


Article from: http://www.news.com.au/images/sources/h14_heraldsun.gif
Shannon McRae

January 26, 2008 12:00am


A REAL estate agent has offered to reimburse a grieving woman rent money she was forced to pay after her father died and broke a lease.

The Herald Sun yesterday reported Theresa Duggan was ordered by the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal to pay her father's landlord, Antony Lee, $600 in lost rent after her father, Michael Ward, died on December 6.

The tribunal upheld Mr Lee's claim for the money because the law says that, when a tenant dies, the tenant's representative must give 28 days' notice that the lease will be broken.

Ms Duggan was shattered by the directive while mourning her father's death from heart attack, especially as she had spent many days and hundreds of dollars cleaning the Traralgon house.

Mr Lee told the Herald Sun his real estate agent told him to pursue action in VCAT to recover rent money from Mr Ward's estate.

Michael Hall, from Dandenong's Hall and Partners First National, said he would like to pay Ms Duggan $600 because she had been treated poorly by the real estate industry.

"It's outrageous," Mr Hall said. "Most real estate agents would have handled that situation differently.

"I had a situation where a similar thing occurred and the landlord wanted to keep the bond. I just told them to show some compassion and not to be greedy.

"This is not about giving charity. I just really want to stress 99 per cent of real estate agents really are caring people.

"Ms Duggan could consider it a donation from the real estate industry."





Posted by: forwardone

I suppose it`s all to easy to pass judgement, I agree. The law`s the law, and if the landlord needs the money and it`s within the terms of the contract then I can understand him wanting to get what`s rightfully his.



Posted by: golddust

The way I am reading the "law" then, it would be after a person dies that the executor of his estate, lawyer, family member etc would have to give 28 days notice immediately after the tenant dies, and would be responsible for the rent during this time.
So the law does provide a legal basis for action, regardless of the cause for "notice".
In that case, I think I would have taken the full 28 days to clean the place, not allowing the landlord the opportunity to show it, and advise him the deceased was still inside.




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