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UltimateHYIP - UltimateHYIP.com

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Posted by: clifton

Visit program: UltimateHYIP

Plans: 1.3% - 1.7% for 90 - 180 days

Minimum investment: $1

Maximum investment: $20,000

Referral commission: 5%

Accepted Ecurrencies: Liberty Reserve and V-Money and e-gold, Pecunix and Bank Wire deposits via EPAY



Posted by: golddust

With this program name, I'm sure eG will be blocking their account, depending on how they registered their account.



Posted by: golddust

More info:

Ultimate HYIP - started 02/08/08
Pays - 1.3-1.7% for 90-180 days
eCurrency- Liberty Reserve and V-Money and Pecunix, e-gold and wire transfers via the EPAY system.

Quote:
Welcome to ultimatehyip.com!

After months of negotiations we are proud to announce that UltimateHYIP has joined a private investment pool and is now able to offer it's benefits to their members, without investing the usual minimum investment of US$ 100,000 required by the pool for new members to join.

The investment pool operates like a mutual fund. Participants invest funds in the pool, the funds are combined and invested, and each participant receives shares representing a pro rata ownership of the pool. The pool has an actual track record from August 2002 with consistently positive results for its members.

The pool seeks to achieve substantial absolute medium-term growth of capital while aiming to restrict the associated risk. The underlying investment program seeks to capitalize primarily on upward and downward price trends in a diversified range of global stock index, bond, currency, metals and energies futures markets.

UltimateHYIP's business objective is to maximize your investment and financial success as an investor with a minimum of risk. We offer the possibility of earning substantial returns.

As a member, you may deposit an amount into the pool as many times as you like. Each deposit will return a profit according to the investment package you have selected. (please review our investment plans)

However there is no risk-free high yield investment and nobody can guarantee your return forever, although the pool has systems in place to limit the damage. So invest sensibly, withdraw your profits regulary until you have at least your intial investment back and then grow your investment through compounding.


..."The pool has an actual track record from August 2002 with consistently positive results for its members..."

I am going to see if this 'track record' is available.




Posted by: forwardone

Quote:
..."The pool has an actual track record from August 2002 with consistently positive results for its members..."

I am going to see if this 'track record' is available.


Me thinks a search party will have to come looking for you.




Posted by: okosh

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
More info:

Ultimate HYIP - started 02/08/08

Pays - 1.3-1.7% for 90-180 days
eCurrency- Liberty Reserve and V-Money and Pecunix, e-gold and wire transfers via the EPAY system.



..."The pool has an actual track record from August 2002 with consistently positive results for its members..."

I am going to see if this 'track record' is available.


Then howcome the same hyip with the same admin dates back to 2006??...
and what round we up to??
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showp...11&postcount=22

His post history tells the story...he took a break then just started up again...
To fool the players a new thread was started
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showt...t=202922&page=1

Do let us know if you find those investment records from 2002



Posted by: golddust

Thanks for the links okosh. I do remember UH being around in 2006, but from the closed thread you provided, I can't ascertain what happened. There don't appear to be any "not paid" posts, it just disappeared.
Then reappears last month, but it doesn't appear the admin was fooling anyone since a few posts 'welcomed' Chris back.
Does this admin disappear and then come back? Is he paying out members before he disappears? Is this his second or third appearance doing this? Sorry, I don't have time to read through the current thread; if all the "paid" posters were deleted, probably then I could find the substance.



Posted by: okosh

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Does this admin disappear and then come back? Is he paying out members before he disappears? Is this his second or third appearance doing this? Sorry, I don't have time to read through the current thread; if all the "paid" posters were deleted, probably then I could find the substance.


Looks like 2nd time round for this admin....But this is not the real problem...
problem is that admin suffers from MPD....Got banned under both names at MMG back in 2006....
Hasn't been caught for MPD at TG (yet)

Thread started at MMG by known TG handle "Uwe"...
"Admin" joined MMG 2 days later...Made first post about a week later after only member claiming to be paid was "Uwe"....
Next post says both banned for MPD, "moved to scam"....that was on Oct 6th....post #12
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Ulti...ltimateHYIP.com

Back at TG the 3 page thread from 2006 is mostly Uwe & "admin" thanking each other....well all of page 2 is

It looks like no one was interested back in 2006 cos they used a known scam script so this one just died....
Was known for fast rounds, in fact was round 3 by the time admin joined the forums!!!
Didn't find any, "I got scammed" posts...

Banned admin rejoined MMG as "yourADMIN" Jan this year...
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/inde...dpost&p=4614239

Gives the appearence of being a regular hyip that's paying but the paid posters both at TG & MMG are very obvious and should be a concern to real players....



Posted by: golddust

Thanks for the clarification. Any program heavily promoted at both MMG and TG are largely a waste of time, and then of course the cheering squad is an obvious red flag waving.



Posted by: okosh

Paid cheer leaders at TG have worked hard for their pay and have managed 100 pages in just 5 weeks

Hardly a post in the thread of any substance which isn't surprizing....
Any nay-sayer post is being quickly burried under an avalanche of "I got paid in 30 mins" posts



Posted by: golddust

You have just explained why people can waste a lot of time trying to find any information of substance at TG.



Posted by: okosh

It's a key difference between TG & MMG....MMG is super quick to ban and announce when someone is promoting under multiple user names...

It's common knowledge that you'll get away with it at TG for months but you won't last 2 days at MMG with MPD......

On the flip side...nay-sayer posts are not allowed at MMG whilst they are at TG....So you do get more real info at TG but of course you first need to sort through the rubbish to find it.....

Also important to remember that MMG does NOT move thread to scam when it stops paying...Got to be offline or no posts b4 it's moved...

Conclusion...When doing DD both forums are useful...



Posted by: forwardone

Quote:
MMG does NOT move thread to scam when it stops paying...Got to be offline or no posts b4 it's moved...


Seems a strange way to go about it.



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
MMG does NOT move thread to scam when it stops paying...Got to be offline or no posts b4 it's moved...


Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardone
Seems a strange way to go about it.


Quote:
MMG is super quick to ban and announce when someone is promoting under multiple user names...
It's common knowledge that you'll get away with it at TG for months

But then again, this is a strange way to go about it too...

And furthermore, it is really bad to think program comparisons between MMG and TG, is what some people call DD...



Posted by: golddust

UltimateHYIP is celebrating 100 days online. Seems to be more consistency this time around.... so far.



Posted by: mew827

API 3/25/2008 11:27 219xxxx U163xxxx (ultimatehyip.com) + $0.13

fast payment,thanks admin



Posted by: mew827

API 3/26/2008 14:23 221xxxx U163xxxx6 (ultimateHYIP) + $0.26

get paid,thanks admin



Posted by: golddust

mew827, please don't bump this thread with "paid" posts. For members interested in content about a program, "paid" posts are very annoying. Limit to 2-3x /wk. Thanks.



Posted by: mew827

Sorry for that,i will keep the post myself.



Posted by: golddust

Thanks mew827. It's good to know the program is paying, or NOT paying.



Posted by: mew827

So,you mean i keep posting here the payment proof or what?



Posted by: golddust

You can post paid if you want, but please limit these posts as indicated before.
Often when a program stops paying a "paid" poster such as yourself will just not post anymore, when it is preferred that you or someone would post that the program has "stopped" paying. It helps us to move the program to the SCAM folder that much quicker.



Posted by: mew827

API 4/1/2008 12:06 228xxxx U163xxxx (ultimateHYIP) + $0.13

been paid again today



Posted by: golddust

I've seen posts expressing animosity toward this admin since this program ran before and not all investors reached profit, or were not refunded, not sure which. Caution advised.



Posted by: mew827

API 4/8/2008 19:12 24xxxxx U163xxxx (ultimateHYIP) + $0.13

get paid again



Posted by: golddust

Mew were you in the previous UltimateHYIP? Apparently it was a game and lasted for 3 rounds. Same admin.



Posted by: mew827

No,i'm not in previous ultimatehyip and i have no idea about that



Posted by: golddust

ECJ does fair reporting sometimes. FWIW, this is what they have to say about UH:

http://ecommerce-journal.com/news/u...timate_about_it

Ultimatehyip nothing ultimate about it



April 7, 2008 - 3:24pm | author: fairyjadoo



Quote:
Current hot hyip pick which called ultimatehyip offers low rate of return and long term type of hyip. Back in year 2006, when ultimatehyip was first launched, it was a hyip game. Upon completion of round one of the game, ultimatehyip had started round two of the game on September 26th, 2006, and round three on October 5th, 2006.

And now ultimatehyip comes back on December 10th last year with new plans which are 1.3% daily for 90 days, 1.5% daily for 150 days, and 1.7% daily for 180 days. Ultimatehyip also introduced a new concept where instead of operating as games, it is now a private investment pool. Participants invest funds in the pool, the funds are combined and invested, and each participant receives shares representing a pro rata ownership of the pool. It stated on the website that the pool has an actual track record from August 2002 with consistently positive results for its members. But as far as I concern, ultimatehyip was first launched in 2006 and that time it was a game and not a pool. Who were ‘members’ that have had benefited from it since year 2002?

No doubt currently this hyip is paying but for how long. As I can see, ultimatehyip is nothing more than just a hyip similar to former famous scams like investdot and wealth2u. So far none of members ever claimed that they have received their principal back. For 1.5% and 1.7% daily plans, the principal is locked up and can only be withdrawan after 150 days and 180 days.

We will see ultimatehyip shows its true color within the next 3, 4 months when members starting to withdraw their principals upon maturity. I’m sure it can’t give back the principal to every member and will turn to scam. Therefore, I strongly suggest those who have already joined ultimatehyip to not compound your principal. Keep your compounding option to 0% and withdraw every week. It only takes you almost 70 days to withdraw all your principal back and then you can play with the admin’s money. Just be patient within that time and don’t be greedy if you don’t want to lose in this hyip.

A recent treat from a blackmailer has made kiosk among the members. According to the admin, the blackmailer also made false accusation of been scammed for large amounts. Well that just an up and down in hyip, nothing big deal about it. And members also can’t take this as prove that ultimatehyip is real.





Posted by: golddust

I've had some communications with the admin over some of the issues mentioned. He adamantly denies having 'not paid' anyone with his last program.
The current UH program is an investment pool operating like a mutual fund.
Quote:
Participants invest funds in the pool, the funds are combined and invested, and each participant receives shares representing a pro rata ownership of the pool. The pool has an actual track record from August 2002 with consistently positive results for its members.


As to the "track record" the admin indicates he shares this with any investor showing an interest in spending over $1000.

There's some other information in this thread:
http://www.thehyipforum.com/showthr...?t=24775&page=3




Posted by: sundulhyip

any serious payment received?



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by sundulhyip
any serious payment received?



What do you consider a 'serious' payment, sundulhyip? I'm pretty sure there aere some 'hi-rollers' playing in this program. Take a guess and do the math.



Posted by: golddust

Update from the admin:

Update on the current Liberty Reserve situation:

We can access LR now without any problems and this is a big relief after a week of uncertainty.

However, as posted on the LR blog, there are still issues with their SCI/API interfaces. That means we cannot process our LR payout backlog and new deposits are not added automatically to our system. According to LR this issue should be resolved within the next 24 hours and we hope that we can offer all of you a flawless operation as we did in the past six months.


Chris

Also found this announcement on the site:

News

Quote:
May-06-2008
Altergold accepted
Altergold will give you the advantage to withdraw your earnings with Altergold's VISA ATM card. Our members will get their Altergold Debit card with a discount of 15%.


Not sure this is a good thing. Seeing posts that Altergold is a scam.






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