The BEST HYIP on the Net (Feb 2004)

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The BEST HYIP on the Net (Feb 2004)
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Posted by: admin

Go ahead and vote for the BEST HYIP on the Net after the recent collapse of NL

Also, Let us know your TOP 5 :-k

Please feel free to add to the list. They are listed in no particular order

Please visit the Main Ratings Page www.hphyips.com if you want any of the URLs for the programs listed in the poll

Posted by: admin

My personal TOP 5, in order

1. Bonded Investing - Real market trading

2. Weekly Gold - Mario's got those L things happening and is moving to Forex Traders

3. Innovative Trades - Peter seems know what he is talking about, just read his updates

4. E-HYIP - Well, AL keeps paying everyone

5. Twenty Two Twelve - Dave's got a good mix of investments, online and offline and always keeps his members up to date (EDIT: Currently closed to NEW members)

Also Keep an eye on -

CPU Investments - Adam has always been prompt to answer any questions

S & S Investments - Sceptre certainly seems to be getting results

Octavian Holdings - Dan just keeps coming back even after Patryn stole his site design and after a damaged knee and is now starting to launch full scale trading

DeVinci Finance - Personally, I think the safest of all. Returns are not the greatest. I think Laurent is very cautious with his investments

Dont hold me to any of this, just my thoughts, they could all collapse tomorrow

AND as Memorex always says \

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Always remember
Diversification is the name of the game

Posted by: dariusz

I was invested only into 2. NL collapsed. One left which is currently the best in my opinion.

1. Pureinvestor (Fixed dividend program)

Posted by: betrdanevr

Hey, Phil.

Can you give us a little info on e-hyip and this Al fellow?

I put a little money into e-hyip on a couple of trusted friends' recommendation (seemed as good as any reason at the moment for a place to put $10 -- LOL) but since you know his name, I thought I'd ask for a little info.

Has Al done other hyips in the past? Any insight into the program would be appreciated for "larnin'."

Thanks.

Terri

Posted by: admin

Well, all I know is that his name is Alan

This is the reply that I got from him after requesting some info

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-----Original Message-----
From: Alan
Sent: Monday, 29 December 2003 6:35 AM
To: High Performance HYIPs
Subject: Re: E-HYIP Investment Program

I don't give out my address or phone number, and I am surprised you even ask. You know how the HYIPs go. I have been running E-Hyip for the last 260+ days, and have no idea about closing it down. The only thing that will shut it does would be someone hacking all of our accounts.

I am earning interest with the funds by trading in the currency markets.

Al

I guess the fact here is that E-HYIP has been paying for 6 months plus

Posted by: mdegryse

Phill

I will scan all docs about the L-funds bought and send them to you so finally somebody as a third party has copies.

They did extremly well, only 2 with a small loss (1.x%) rest made a average of 20-65% since september which isn't bad.

So you can expect them when I'm back from the US, will be mid next week.

Mario

Posted by: linkz

Hey nova-lights isn't there :-k :-k

Well for me .....
Still like Comshares ....

Have gotten withdrawals from CaribeFX

And for the surfers .... Cashits.com paying well

Whether you consider it HYI ....

Posted by: Wasp

Mine goes to WG.

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Hey nova-lights isn't there

You are joking, right? ](*,)

Posted by: linkz

Ummmmmmmm yes .......
Sorry if I wasn't clear ......

Of course I did have a problem logging into my account today

OK JOKE.......

Posted by: admin

Well as I expected Bonded Investing was voted by HP members as the Best HYIP of the month, Feb 2004. Second and third were a long way behind. After the NL apparent Ponzi there is not a lot of confidence in the HYIPs at the moment

The BEST HYIP on the Net (Feb 2004)
Bonded Investing
62% [ 22 ]
Weekly Gold
11% [ 4 ]
Off Shore Ventures
0% [ 0 ]
Twenty Two Twelve
5% [ 2 ]
Innovative Trades
0% [ 0 ]
DeVinci Finance
0% [ 0 ]
Get Weekly Profit
5% [ 2 ]
E-HYIP
0% [ 0 ]
Octavian Holdings
0% [ 0 ]
Cash Domain
0% [ 0 ]
Com Shares
2% [ 1 ]
S & S Investments
8% [ 3 ]
CPU Investments
2% [ 1 ]
European Traders Group
0% [ 0 ]
Asset Development Group
0% [ 0 ]

Posted by: elementAU

Which means bonded is going to be innundated with funds flocking to quality and perhaps have its nature changed.

Posted by: memorex

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Originally Posted by linkz

Hey nova-lights isn't there :-k :-k

Well for me .....
Still like Comshares ....

Have gotten withdrawals from CaribeFX

And for the surfers .... Cashits.com paying well

Whether you consider it HYI ....

Thats because of the blackout

regards
memorex

Posted by: memorex

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Originally Posted by elementAU

Which means bonded is going to be innundated with funds flocking to quality and perhaps have its nature changed.

It will only happen if the present investors refer the masses, this is where you should use your vote.
To allow only well known fellow comrade investors and not the whiners and strangers .

regards
memorex

Posted by: hyperion

Does Bonded ever show their trades?

Posted by: BigDawg

I think Bonded returns are too low. If I'm going to be in HYIP I have to get more money than 15% a month.

Posted by: memorex

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Originally Posted by BigDawg

I think Bonded returns are too low. If I'm going to be in HYIP I have to get more money than 15% a month.

Well if you think that 15% per month is not good enough or too low you are going to lose a lot of money in this arena.

The only ones that are above this rate are normally pure ponzi or scams.

Which have to rely on other spends and you are guaranteed to lose your money in those ventures in the long term.

Unless you are only putting in small spends and recouping quickly before they go down, because they are plain and simply a gamble

But feel free to give your money to the first stranger that passes your door.

Because this is virtually what you will be doing with the higher rated programs .

regards
memorex

Posted by: BigDawg

Bonded could be a Ponzi also. They just keep more of your money.

Posted by: memorex

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Originally Posted by BigDawg

Bonded could be a Ponzi also. They just keep more of your money.

I never said it wasnt, but I do know this much,most offering above 1%, just do not last the pace,and you cant say that about Bonded Investment,because they are still here.
Unlike our ponzi friends Nova Lights who were supposedley trading when they added the two programs below to TMA .3895% =12.37% compounded which was their first program.
It was when they brought in a compounded Star Game 1% =34.78% per month and then Pegasus 1.43% =41.17% after principal this was the start of their demise they couldnt keep up the facade after that.
The old trait is always there, they offer more in the hope they can generate more funding to pay the older deposits but like all elastic it finally has a tension point and it snaps.
EZY BUCKS.MONEY WORKS ,PLAYERS EDGE they are all the same it is mainly dependant on the greed of the Administration on how long they last .

regards
memorex

Posted by: dariusz

Where did You get 15%/month?

Does BI return a principal back?

Posted by: ydutil

Bonded is far from 15% per month.

BI is more like 60 - 80% per year.

Posted by: BigDawg

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Originally Posted by ydutil

Bonded is far from 15% per month.

BI is more like 60 - 80% per year.

I thought I read 15 % a month somewhere. My mistake.

Posted by: betrdanevr

Quote:

Originally Posted by dariusz

Where did You get 15%/month?

Does BI return a principal back?

No, Dariusz, no return of principal.

Regards,
Terri

Posted by: memorex

Since I joined bonded investment which is just over ten months the interest has ranged from 11%-20% per month below is the past performance :

April20.80%
May19.20%
June15.70%
July 16.10%
Aug14.00%
Sep13.60%
Oct14.40%
Nov11.40%
Dec13.00%
2004
Jan 12.30%
Feb 4days 2.1%

which totals 152.60% a far cry from your 60%-80% in actual fact double your estimate
Which is not even an annual rate until Mar 31st you people really need to do your homework before you give out information .

regards
memorex

Posted by: betrdanevr

What do you make of the decrease in interest payout, Memorex?
I only joined Bonded in December.

The interest rates do include, however, repayment of principal.

Thanks,
Terri

Posted by: memorex

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Originally Posted by betrdanevr

What do you make of the decrease in interest payout, Memorex?
I only joined Bonded in December.

The interest rates do include, however, repayment of principal.

Thanks,
Terri

Well it is I would think the just the way they have either invested or their deposit rate has reduced, but it may just be the time of the year .

Not a lot of money floating about especially since the NL demise and others that closed and the christmas time expense.

This is the time of the bill that is always dropping on the mat about this time from most utilities & c/cards

Most of this first period of the quarter in the year is normally in the doldrums and tends to get better in the second quarter.

And they have adjusted this accordingly which means they possibly have their finger on the pulse hopefully

regards
memorex

Posted by: betrdanevr

I was wondering about if it was the way they had invested, as I wouldn't think their deposit rate had reduced. Of course, I certainly don't KNOW that.

) Curious if there was any "hyip history" here about Arnet's investment strategy.

Thanks, Memorex. Yeah, I know about the bills hitting the mat, too! (Aargh!)

Thanks,
Terri

Posted by: ngkh

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which totals 152.60% a far cry from your 60%-80% in actual fact double your estimate

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that 165.6% includes part of ur principal, so the actual return is far less than that. Your investment at BI only lasts for 500 days or approximately 365 trading days, which is about 73 weeks. At the average of 0.6% per trading day, the total is about 220%, but that's for almost one and a half year.

Posted by: ydutil

Lets say an average of 0.6% per trading day at 365 days (around 500 calendar days) that makes 0.6 x 365 = 219%

Your principal is returned with the 0.6% so there is 119% left at the end of the 500 days. So around 86% per year...ok I'm off a liitle bit...

I'm not complaining at the BI rates, I'm just trying to

Quote:

really need to do your homework before you give out information .

Posted by: highyieldbiz

Where is Asset Development Group (url) ?

Posted by: GoldVentures

Quote:

Originally Posted by highyieldbiz

Where is Asset Development Group (url) ?

http://assetdg.com/

Posted by: memorex

Quote:

Originally Posted by ydutil

Lets say an average of 0.6% per trading day at 365 days (around 500 calendar days) that makes 0.6 x 365 = 219%

Your principal is returned with the 0.6% so there is 119% left at the end of the 500 days. So around 86% per year...ok I'm off a liitle bit...

I'm not complaining at the BI rates, I'm just trying to

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really need to do your homework before you give out information .

No I am afraid your sums are up the creek as well, in my reckoning that is ,as my sums are based on current trends not, approximations, like yours are, even your daily net return is way out in regards to the reality fact.

regards
memorex

Posted by: memorex

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No matter how you cut up the interest or return for every $100.00 invested it is returned in your interest rates @ .274% each daily trading day
i.e. $100.00/365period of investment=.2739726%
therefore : The average trading year as we know it is equated to approximately 250 days give or take some days depending on holidays or disasters per year .
And also bearing in mind my figures below are for the current trading year not approximations

gross% net% trading days
April 20.80%-21*.274% =15.046% 21 days
May19.20% """"""""" =13.446% 21 days
June15.70% """"""""" =9.946% 21 days
July 16.10% """"""""" =10.072% 22 days
Aug14.00% """""""" =8.246% 21 days
Sep13.60% """""""" =7.846% 21 days
Oct14.40% """""""' =8.098% 23 days
Nov11.40%"""""""" =6..468% 18 days
Dec13.00% """""""" =7.246% 21 days
2004
Jan 12.30%""""""""" =6.546% 21 days
Feb 2.10% """""""""" =1.004 4 days
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gross=152.60% net =92.96% in 193 days therefore to get the average net daily percentage to date we divide 92.96%/193 days this gives an average % of .481658%
Now lets talk approximations if we have a trend that we can work from which we do from above this represents an average net daily percentage % of .481658% a current trend of 10 months trading , not a projected trend now we can project the next two months equated to the current current trend on to our figures this will give us 231 T/days ((which is way short of the 250 trading day margin by the way ))(193days current+15 daysFeb+23daysMar trading dayswhich are left for the remainder years trades April2003 to end of March2004.

231 days @.481658net %= 111.26299 % still no where near the 86% margin so I may be missing something here and if I am, I dont mind you explaining where the 86% came from because I honestly cannot find it .

regards
memorex

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Posted by: BigDawg

I will consider the first one to pay me the best. I haven't been paid from an HYIP yet!

Posted by: memorex

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Originally Posted by BigDawg

I will consider the first one to pay me the best. I haven't been paid from an HYIP yet!

Well if you havent been paid by a HYIP yet then there is something wrong with your strategy.

Thats all I can say about that because I have said in the past you wont make millions.

But you can scrape a meagre living out of it , but you have to do, as I have said in the past and Diversify, its the only way .

There are many people that say, that they make a lot of money from this game.
But if they do, they have to risk a lot, in the first place and the luck can run either way, unless they are extremely lucky.

regards
memorex

Posted by: buildwealth

I agree partly. But, my only "hard" money loss in all of 2003 was $50.00 calculated spend risk. So by sticking to a plan/strategy, everyone's bottom line should be in the black, and the only thing being lost should be soft money or profit or anticipated/expected profit.

A lot of money is lost by compounding, and leaving it to compound, risking that the compound money will be available when one wants/needs it. Think in terms of Always Pay Yourself First!

use the below simple strategy, or adopt some or none into your own plan that Works> But yes, there is money to be made in selecting good programs that work for any length of time, but yes, there are a lot of keys to watch vs your own red flags, and that includes "diversification", within reason, "test" monies to spend, "timing" is vital, "preservation" should always be kept in mind because recapturing "lost opportunity" costs plus real "hard" money spends is nearly impossible, and certainly would set you back for a considerable time, and time is money, etc. etc.

i'll share my strategy with anyone who emails me for it - it is all about sharing. Reduce your losses in 2004 to Zero.

Here's a summary that works for me, and you may not be able to quit your day job (nor would I ever - but I'm retired) but you can certainly Supplement your Monthly Income considerably. And, if you keep in mind, since online programs do not have a history of longevity, use them for Cash Flow/Income purposes - keeping the real long-term investments for retirement, etc. Offline in real markets which offer a vast reservoir of opportunity AND Protections.

A "test" "hard" money spend = see the results = getting most or all of your "hard" money back/returned as quickly as possible = proceeding thereafter with all or mostly all "soft" money = Zero hard money risk! Always pay yourself as you proceed - compounding money may not be there when you need it.

Greed, Fear, Ignorance and Lack of Discipline can destroy any Goal.

Preparing Oneself, Being Prepared for Opportunities = Luck to most everyone else who won't take the time or effort to prepare.
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Posted by: BigDawg

Or you can roll the dice on the craps table and invest big and hope to recover your initial spend back ASAP. I failed miserably doing this strategy with NL.

Posted by: buildwealth

not the same thing at all, and you have no real plan to get your money back in craps (actually best chance in gambling is with blackjack and let the dealer bust), it is 97%+ stacked against you from the beginning, and NO "Window of Opportunity" as most any carefully selected program will offer (I chose those words carefully, don't rush over them)! Most programs last at least several months, so again, "timing".

strategy isn't about only one thing. It has many faces, and "timing" is only one of them. Some are so greedy they neglect the "test" part of it, and then lose with a ridiculous huge "spend". I'm constantly amazed when I read about some of the huge money losses put into online programs where they don't belong, and in one lumpsum not giving themselves a chance to get any hard money back. Like most accidents, they are Man-Made.

some of us have made money in every endeavor by using any good strategy. What do losers have to suggest as their alternative?

Ignore a plan at your own peril but don't attack a plan that is proven to work as the problem may be in the person who doesn't or can't? neglect the other aspects such as a "test" spend, "diversification", "preservation" etc. and you fail. For whatever it is worth to new serious "online program" spenders, that plan or any adaptation thereof does work.

a $50 loss in 2003 compared to many "experts", or those who argue with success, reminds me of a sports Tournament where you work to follow the winners bracket or go with the losers. There is good Cash Flow/Income to be had online IF you do it right, and don't get greedy (get-rich-quick $ is not available), fearful of missing out on the big money that isn't there and continuing with a compound that won't be there, ignorant in selection of programs not having a common sense plan and no red flags to guide them, and now knowing how to work a program the way it is structured, then lacking the discipline necessary to follow through.

the majority of losses are due to ignoring the basics of any "investment" let alone "spend". Man-made failures.

Posted by: droesparky

tell that ole boy at BI to get ready it sure looks like he is the next inline to catch the crap.
I think its better to keep quiet about who is the best HYI

Posted by: buildwealth

it should be easy for anyone to see that not only did custer NOT follow "the" plan at all, but he wasn't around later to discuss THE plan he violated.

custer diverted from the plan, he did what some of us try to warn others not to do...he didn't follow "the" plan that was set, didn't wait for the troops on their way, wanting the glory for others to notice - the greed & power, fearing he would lose out on his moment of glory for the "Big" one, and was ignorant in so doing lacking common sense in sticking to "the" plan that was laid out for other Officers, yet custer lacked the discipline.

As I said, greed, fear, ignorance and lack of discipline will destroy any well laid out plan.