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Posted by: xtraders

Quote:

Originally Posted by memorex

All the programs on the net are the best until they fail just remember you heard it here

regards
memorex

Exactly memorex!
You're right.
But for now he may say its the best program as he knows a new program will popup and will be the 'best', just as NL was the best

Posted by: memorex

Yes xtraders

You are absolutely correct ,I am not only inferring that FLO can fail .I am glad you can understand the content of this simple post .

not like our little FLO lapdog Debra or makehyip who had the temerity to threaten me in a PM that she is going to post my message to the ADMIN of FLO .

But as I told her she can if she likes CC it to Jeesus Christ as far as I am concerned.
People who really know me know I am beholding to no one in this arena and never will be .
This was A simple statement stating that it is one of the most common syndromes in the HYIP arena as you stated NL is or was a prime example

regards
memorex

Posted by: d2

:LOL:

That's too good, Memorex. But I'm getting these visions of Jesus Christ with an overflowing inbox just about now

Cheers -
Deej

Posted by: awty

Anybody can feel free to forward any of my 'opinions' to FLO as well (preferably by mail, I'll sign and date them personally, with my home address and phone # - which are actually very easy to find... They DO have the postal address of the admin, right??? (Couldn't resist...))

ANY negativity/criticism will very likely be brushed off, and actually concerns of naysayers, critics, and others have already 'been addressed'. Time will tell, most of us can write the ending from (unfortunately...) memory. Although the 'investigation' stage on FLO should prove interesting to watch, for many reasons...

As I've mentioned, setting up privacy/anonymity/web privacy/encrypted 'safe mail' accounts/financial protection/trusts/IBC's/Corp Soles can be used 'several' ways. To protect investors funds, yes. This is usually listed as being to the advantage of the investor, especially for the 'large funds' that are anticipated to be 'coming in'... The places that provide these services, especially if 'personally recommended' by a program/admin, can be 'secondhand beneficiaries' in a few ways, not the least of which can be referral fees...

But...

Might it be worth considering that if an 'admin' of any program is using these 'protections', and they are, indeed, as 'bulletproof' as advertised, they can take your funds, anytime they wish, and there is NOTHING that you, anyone, or any agency may be able to do about it, even legally, if set up 'correctly'?

Considering that particular 'situation' I found particularly interesting.

I THINK that most of these 'financial veils' can be pierced if 'criminal' activity can be proven. Anonymity would possibly help in avoiding that, as well.

(Please forgive my (mis)understanding on these subjects, I'm not too sharp on this stuff, as I haven't found it necessary for myself to look into it too seriously, at least not yet.)

Maybe something to think about?

I'm guessing this will be tested in the next few years in a few places, with a few people. Should prove interesting...

Just my opinion,
Jeff

Posted by: makehyip

For clarification purposes this was sent to the Admin of THIS FORUM...If we pay for a folder here, I do feel we have the right to voice our concerns and that is exactly what I did!

My PM for ALL to see....yes Debra the LapDog of FLO....cute, I like that one!

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I am sending you this because I found it offensive that a moderator of this forum would post such and I ask that it be removed.

Thanks so much,
Debra

memorex

This post by you infers something negative? You are a member of FLO who hasbeen paid, and you as a moderator of this forum post this message after a post of being paid. I would like to see this post deleted or edited.

Are you one that sits on the fence and enjoys your profits but also doesn't have faith in FLO? Think about it and let me know.

Debra
FreelandOpps Admin. Assistant

I am CC this post to the Admin of this forum as well!
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Guess you need to read things a little closer dear...THIS FORUM And wow, this is some BIG THREAT....get your glasses out next time you read please! I am so glad I gave you something so interesting to talk about.

Posted by: BigDawg

Was all this discussion in response to my last post in the paid thread? Not really sure what's going on here.

Posted by: rixzta

I agree with you Deb....he has certainly lost his objectivity......and he snaps at the slightest comment.

I pointed this out and was rudely attacked for commenting. He once had credibility.........

Posted by: memorex

Quote:

Originally Posted by makehyip

For clarification purposes this was sent to the Admin of THIS FORUM...If we pay for a folder here, I do feel we have the right to voice our concerns and that is exactly what I did!

My PM for ALL to see....yes Debra the LapDog of FLO....cute, I like that one!

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I am sending you this because I found it offensive that a moderator of this forum would post such and I ask that it be removed.

Thanks so much,
Debra

memorex

This post by you infers something negative? You are a member of FLO who hasbeen paid, and you as a moderator of this forum post this message after a post of being paid. I would like to see this post deleted or edited.

Are you one that sits on the fence and enjoys your profits but also doesn't have faith in FLO? Think about it and let me know.

Debra
FreelandOpps Admin. Assistant

I am CC this post to the Admin of this forum as well!
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Guess you need to read things a little closer dear...THIS FORUM And wow, this is some BIG THREAT....get your glasses out next time you read please! I am so glad I gave you something so interesting to talk about.

And I again reiterate, that all programs eventually fail and the content of my post ,was directed to people, that get the feeling that it is going to last forever,from all the hype and euphoria that follows from these statements.
And whether you pay for a folder or not it is irrelevant, I ,like anyone else ,for that matter, whether they are a moderator ,or not ,are entitled to express their fears and caution,on any of the programs listed .
This is a free and open forum not a moderated one to the point of the like I have heard of FLO .
I say I heard, because of complaints, from people ,that have stated categorically.
That they have been literally shut out for voicing their opinion on your forum.
Which is one of the reasons why I dont frequent the likes of these forums.
I personally do not believe they are there for the members, only the administration, so they can control the content .
As for negativity in the HYIP arena you are obviously living in cloud cuckoo land if you have confidence in any program in this arena.
I also didnt say it was a big threat I said that you threatened me in this post that you were CC ing the content of my post to the admin and as I stated you can CC it to Jeesus Christ for all I care
as you already know, this was my answer to this, as I do not take kindly, to any form of threat from you, or anyone.
I dont know where you live but you should realise, we are in a free society and we are entitled to voice our opinions.
Whether or not you agree with them ,is neither here nor there, it is an entitlement of free speech, in which generations of men & womem risked and lost their lives, for this priveledge.
So please dont come here spouting your Indignation here, because you feel that this is inferring something.It is you who, you have made a mountain out of a mole hill , as I have said this is a place, where members can voice there opinion on whatever category they think fit,and there is nothing you can do to stop them because if it was like that here , Which I dont think Edward wants ,we would just open another free forum and conduct our questions on these programs from there.
Finally You only paid for a folder you never bought the forum or would you rather do that and shut everyone up that wants to voice their opinion on your program and anyone elses or just yours??

regards
memorex

Posted by: memorex

Quote:

Originally Posted by rixzta

I agree with you Deb....he has certainly lost his objectivity......and he snaps at the slightest comment.

I pointed this out and was rudely attacked for commenting. He once had credibility.........

Nothing wrong with my Objectivity I sussed you out in the first instance as Power freak when you moderated the NL forum

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regards
memorex

Posted by: rixzta

Gosh....ya got me ...... #-o :^o

ROFL

Posted by: awty

Hmmm... Looks to me like an attempt by an FLO mod to 'control' here, same as is done in 'other places'. By the way, the 'killer' program is now clear there. Time must be getting close, I really don't think it will make it all the way to the 'private' stage.

And, if I may - one of the reasons that I like HPHYIPS is open, honest discussion. And, the moderators here (can I disqualify myself here?) I've found to be straightforward, and, for the VERY most part, respectful. I know I get out of line myself at times.

What I find interesting, is those that feel, that moderators are 'more equal' than others. (I don't see that here, myself, feel free to point it out if I'm wrong...) All of the mods here I've found are good, decent people, not overly influenced by finances (Can't be 'bought' easily),down to earth people, with some experience under their belts, and that none of them has a 'blind eye' towards any program.

'Lap dogs', I don't think, would be a term that I would use for any of the mods here, but I have seen other forums where that was the case (And, I believe at one point I would have included myself in that category, 6 months to a year ago, due to some incorrect 'assumptions' on my part. I DO hope that I made my feelings clear on that - It was a HUGE mistake on my part.)

I'm only involved here at hphyips because it's not affiliated with any one program. Been there, done that, got burned, and did what I feel is a REALLY bad job helping others.

It IS possible for a moderator of a program to know more 'inside info' about a program than the members. In one case, I got more info about a program from the investors than I did from the admin. Some real eye openers too...

Anyway, I'm rambling, sorry...

TRYING to be respectful, sometimes I'm NOT very good at it,
Jeff

Posted by: awty

"You are a member of FLO who has been paid, and you as a moderator of this forum post this message after a post of being paid."

Implying that people can be bought off? From what I know, this would very likely NOT be a good place to make that particular assumption.

Interesting... A post like this could be (and WILL be, by me), considered as coming from someone who possibly CAN be 'bought', (where else would that frame of reference be from?).

BTW, That DOES affect one's credibility, in my book...

Again, just MY opinion,
Jeff

Posted by: BigDawg

I'm still confiused what exactly all this discussion is about in this thread. I must have missed something. I have an idea that memorex made a comment after my last post in the paid thread.

If that is the case. That was a misplaced comment. Because it was a simple "paid" thread. Too many XXXXXX attack dogs on these forums. Cancers really. Chewing away like rats and vultiures looking for the negative. Trying to discredit and undermine a paying program that works.

Even if FLO turns out to be a scam which none of us can prove at this point. What good does it do to have all this anti-FLO discussion at this point? The name of the game is to make money, well take your profits and enjoy it. Attacking the people that pay you good money is disrespectful and just plain ridiiculous if you ask me.

I have more appreciation for them than that.

"Just my opinion"

Posted by: forwardone

I wouldn`t argue with that.

Geoff

Posted by: d2

FLO is a scam. We all know that, or at least the majority of us do. Can you make money from it? Yes, if you got in early enough, very likely you have already made money from it. Nobody here has denied that. That doesn't mean it's a legitimate investment by a longshot.

People who do not believe FLO or ANY other programme is a legit investment and voice their concerns are not 'cancers' and I find that reference more than a bit disrespectful.

This is an *independant* forum. We do not come here to only praise admins. Because it is independant, we can be critical here, and that is a skill you need to survive in this arena. I, for one, appreciate that I can get real information here.

Bigdawg, I hope you're well into profit, and when FLO disappears, as it invariably will, that you won't be crying the way you did over NL's disappearance. I think the concern here is that FLO will most likely try to gain more trust and get people to invest way more than they can afford to lose before they run. It's a classic manouevre - more money for their admins. And people have been falling for it for years when various programmes start going private or offering 'investments' with even more outrageous returns than what they were previously offering. EZ-Bucks anyone?

Just for the record, I've never known *any* programme to be brought down by a chatty or critical member. It just doesn't happen that way. A couple of admins have tried to use it as an excuse before, but the truth has eventually outed. And whatever you think or I think of FLO will have no bearing on the date they've decided to run, if they've decided it yet.

CC it to whoever you want.

Deej