Members Poll - All Members Please Vote

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Members Poll - All Members Please Vote
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Posted by: admin

Members Poll - All Members Please Vote

POLL QUESTION:

Do you want ALL Members IPs to be shown Publicly on the Web Life Forum?

YES or NO

The Poll will stay open for a month and at the end of the poll whichever has the highest vote count will be implemented. There are currently 1600 members so to be fair we need at least 25%, 400+ members votes for the poll to be vaild

Please also feel free to post your comments in this thread regarding this issue

Posted by: Kiss

I haven't voted as yet . . . because it makes no never mind to me at all!!! . . . if someone is hell bent on not showing his ip . . . all they need to do is get a proxy or an anonymizer . . . so really . . . what is the difference??? . . . you still won't know what that person's IP really is!!! Just my thoughts!!!

Posted by: admin

Actually it was a member called "gg" that brought it up in another thread. As this is a Community the only fair way is a poll

If it is activated at least everyone will know who uses Proxies and who doesn't but somehow I think that the YES vote will be very low. It will be interesting to see

Posted by: aceriker

Absolutely definitely not. I don't use proxies, but I don't want any person able to see my IP. For one, you have the issues of hackers/crackers spoofing your IP. If you are on a static IP address, your computer can be attacked via your IP. It's just a big no-no. Far better to just let a few mods view the IPs.

ace

Posted by: admin

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For one, you have the issues of hackers/crackers spoofing your IP

Thats a very valid point, thanks...

Posted by: Kiss

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Originally Posted by aceriker

Far better to just let a few mods view the IPs.

ace

Interesting you should say that Ace . . . since you are a Mod on most of the Forums . . . you are one of the privileged few to get to see everyone else's IP . . . and yet . . . yours is hidden safely away from prying eyes!!!

Posted by: aceriker

Kiss, I'm a mod on TG and that's it. Hardly most forums

ace

Posted by: forwardone

Kiss, surely you realize that there`s a difference between a few Mods on a forum having the ability to check a member`s IP, as opposed to every single member`s IP`s being open to absolutely every member?

Doesn`t security worry you?

I also assume that all those who are now calling for IP`s to be made public will of course be lobbying the other top forums for the same thing, in the interest of consistancy?

Somehow I can imagine the short two word answer you`d get.

Geoff

Posted by: awty

That IS a good point. Noting someone's IP address is about like putting up a target for some whose intentions may not be the best...
Jeff

Posted by: Kiss

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Originally Posted by forwardone

Doesn`t security worry you?

Geoff

Of course security worries me . . . but . . . I guess I was brought up in a gentler time with these HYIP programs and gold games (4 years now) . . . when there weren't so many scammers and hackers around . . . and as I run a yahoo forum . . . my IP is always on display when I post on my own board!!! . . . maybe that's why I don't think of it as being such a big deal!!!

Posted by: gg

Actually it was a member called "gg" that brought it up in another thread. As this is a Community the only fair way is a poll"

Ummm no mate I actually DIDNT bring up the IP's and if I did then I certainly didnt mean to!!

I thought it was you.

If we all know who is posting - is that a terrible nasty thing? That IP's are available is fairly common knowledge.. after all yahoo posts them all the time and people manage to survive . .

Goes all the way back to trust - we trust the admins of the boards with our IP's we trust the admin of the program with our gold . . etc etc

Makes a whole lot of no never mind really - but I would be interested to know if anyone ELSE had posted using sayyyyyyyy your IP (or mine for that matter) ..

Posted by: Kiss

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Originally Posted by aceriker

Kiss, I'm a mod on TG and that's it. Hardly most forums

ace

My apologies Ace . . . I guess I thought you were on a Mod on this board . . . but it just dawned on me that you are a member of the Review Board.

Posted by: forwardone

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Originally Posted by gg

Actually it was a member called "gg" that brought it up in another thread. As this is a Community the only fair way is a poll"

Ummm no mate I actually DIDNT bring up the IP's and if I did then I certainly didnt mean to!!

I thought it was you.

If we all know who is posting - is that a terrible nasty thing? That IP's are available is fairly common knowledge.. after all yahoo posts them all the time and people manage to survive . .

Goes all the way back to trust - we trust the admins of the boards with our IP's we trust the admin of the program with our gold . . etc etc

Makes a whole lot of no never mind really - but I would be interested to know if anyone ELSE had posted using sayyyyyyyy your IP (or mine for that matter) ..

On the 4th August, gg posted,

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As for publishing IP's - given that PHP allows for the checking of all posters IP's I have to wonder why there is not a place on forums where the admin can - if they so choose- publish the IP's of posters.. so that us readers have an idea of the crap that goes on behind the scenes with multiple ID's(personalities??)

I think that Phil`s comment was in direct response to you querying the non-publicizing of I.P.`s.

Geoff

Posted by: betrdanevr

Thank you very much, Geoff. That's what I was referring to.

And Ace, thanks for your confirmation of the reason that I.P.'s should not be generally published. That was my thinking, and I'm surprised it wasn't kind of a "given" and that it had to be explained. Since you're a computer/technical guy, it's good that it came from you.

GG and Kiss, of course you're free to do as you want on your Yahoo forum. On Yahoo forums, people communicate via e-mail, the Yahoo e-mail addys are right there on the board and the headers can be revealed. That's SOP on Yahoo forums, to my understanding.

And yes, it does all go back to trust!

Y'all have a great day!

Terri

Posted by: gg

OK it must have been me that bought it up.

If you read my original post tho I was saying that it would be nice if mods published those people posting with multiple id's.. or personalities.

Anyways the thread and poll is out there now . . so lets see where it goes.

Perhaps that option should be added tho not neccessarily show all IP's BUT if someone posts under different identities and with the same IP then that is published??? Just a thot

Posted by: forwardone

Well, gg, there`s often more than one reason of course why someone might use several usernames.

One could be to place more ads than is otherwise allowed under the Rules.

Another, of course, is that to bolster his arguments, a person comes in as someone else and posts in support, attempting to give more credibility to the original posts.

And another reason may be that once someone loses respect on a forum, he might feel that it`s no point posting anymore, as he won`t be taken seriously. Therefore that person starts off `afresh` under a new username.

And I`m sure that there will be other reasons that I can`t think of at the moment.

Geoff

Posted by: gg

and each one one of those reasons would be good reasons for the members to know its the same person would they not??

Thats my thoughts anyway..

Posted by: Kiss

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Originally Posted by betrdanevr

On Yahoo forums, people communicate via e-mail, the Yahoo e-mail addys are right there on the board and the headers can be revealed. Terri

While that is true Terri . . . some people do communicate by email . . . you can also go right to the board and post . . . which is what most people do!!! . . . but . . . even if you post right on the board . . . your email addy is there . . . and if you go and view the source . . . voila!!! . . the originating IP is there too!!!

Posted by: forwardone

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Originally Posted by gg

and each one one of those reasons would be good reasons for the members to know its the same person would they not??

Thats my thoughts anyway..

I suppose it depends on whether you trust the Admin and Mods to do their jobs properly.

Geoff

Posted by: betrdanevr

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Originally Posted by Kiss

You're absolutely right, Kiss. Should have been "can" communicate by e-mail. And I wasn't communicating clearly. LOL

Posted by: golddust

I think the motto of most HYIPers' is to "Trust No One". I believe in that motto, didn't use to, but things have changed.
Seems to me it is the duty and priviledge of the Admin and Mods to research IP addresses if necessary. (If I was a mod, I am sure I would find peculiarities). Also think that if there is any monkey business going on with spam, scams or whatever, then those IPs should be posted, to the benefit of forum members.

Let it be known, whatever the Poll decides in the "Forum Rules".

Lots of good thoughts on this issue.

golddust