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For The Heart, Red Wine Better Than Gin

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Posted by: forwardone

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For the heart, red wine is better than gin. When it comes to the heart, red wine is still the drink of choice as compared to gin, according to a new study. Alcohol in general has been shown to have some heart-protective properties, when consumed in moderate amounts.

Moderate alcohol is defined as one drink a day for women and one to two drinks a day for men. Although alcohol, and red wine in particular, can protect the heart in moderate amounts, physicians often do not recommend drinking for patients who do not already consume alcohol.

For people who drink, red wine appears to have the most effect on the heart when compared to beer or spirits. In the latest study, conducted by researchers at Jefferson medical College, red wine was more effective than gin in lowering inflammatory markers in the blood. The study was published in a recent issue of Atherosclerosis.

Inflammatory markers are a substance that the body releases in response to inflammation. Inflammatory markers (called biomarkers) have been associated with risk factors for atherosclerosis, which can lead to heart disease and stroke. Some markers, such as C-reactive protein, may indicate the severity of cardiovascular disease. Red wine is consistently more effective in reducing these biomarkers than gin. This may be because red wine contains complex substances, such as polyphenols, which do not appear in gin or other alcoholic beverages. The researchers noted that although evidence points to some heart-protective benefits of alcoholic beverages in general, this evidence is not direct and doesn't necessarily prove that alcohol directly combats the development of atherosclerosis.

Nice to have it confirmed by yet another study.

Geoff



Posted by: betrdanevr

Hope I'm not "showboating" too much here, but the ex and I were pretty active in the wine community. He hosted an international judging for several years. ("It's all his fault!" LOL)

Terri

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BYLINE: BYRN, ANNE Anne Byrn FOOD EDITOR STAFF
DATE: January 23, 1992
PUBLICATION: The Atlanta Journal and The Atlanta Constitution

EDITION: The Atlanta Constitution

The Atlanta Journal

SECTION: FEATURES
PAGE: C/1






Terri and Conrad XXXX have long enjoyed sipping a glass of white wine together during dinner. But that was before "60 Minutes" aired a "French Paradox" segment in mid-November, linking French red wine consumption to lower rates of heart disease. Now the Atlanta couple's wine of choice is red, even though "Conrad doesn't like the taste of red wine," his wife admits. "We watch cholesterol. We cook with olive oil. We eat lots of garlic. If drinking red wine will help, too, then we'll most definitely make that effort."

The xxxxxs aren't alone. An informal survey of Atlanta wine merchants and sommeliers found that more people are switching to red wine as a result of that program.



Ed True at Tower Beer and Wine on Piedmont Road in Buckhead sold 29 cases of red wine the Monday morning after the show. And according to Information Resources of Chicago, U.S. grocery-store sales of cabernet sauvignon red wine were up 45 percent for the four-week period following the broadcast.



The report linked the opulent French diet - triple-cream cheeses, goose fat and red wine - with the strange irony that the French are only one-third as likely as Americans to die of a heart attack.



But a positive correlation between moderate red wine consumption and lowered cholesterol is nothing new to the medical community. Cornell University scientists have identified the substance in red wine as resveratrol, a compound that allows grapes to resist fungal disease. It comes from grape skins and is found mainly in red wine because in production these wines have the most contact with their skins.



At R.J.'s Wine Bar in Virginia-Highland, Rob Campbell says he has seen "a lot less white wine sold" at the trendy watering hole.





Posted by: suilv2n

Just happened to be drinking a glass as I found this thread!

Cheers!

Here's to health, wealth and happiness !!





Posted by: forwardone

Cheers to both of you; Terri, and you too, suilv2n.

Geoff



Posted by: golddust

It is true that Italians also consume much red wine and high fat diet, yet do not have a high incidence of heart disease. This study also concluded that there is a genetic component which is preventative to heart disease in Italian ppls.

What about Russians and all their Vodka? Anyone have information, other than the increase in alcoholism? Is heart disease synonymous with alcoholism?

golddust



Posted by: betrdanevr

Seems to be triglycerides are a main cause of heart problems associated with the consumption of alcohol. Many people don't realize that blood fats can be affected by drinking.

One thing I can say from direct experience is that high triglycerides can lead to pancreatitis. The ex had an acute attack and the doctor wasn't sure whether he would live for about 10 days. As it ended up, he became insulin-dependent but otherwise okay.

Then again, I have a neighbor whose brother, a non-drinker, developed pancreatitis and was in a coma in the hospital for almost three months! Came out unscathed, considering, and is not in need of insulin. It's amazing how health problems affect people differently.

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Triglycerides



A study reported that wine consumption in patients who had experienced a heart attack resulted in not only higher HDL levels, but also higher LDL and triglyceride levels. Avoid alcohol if you have heart failure.
{CBSMedscape.com - Oct. 1999}

Reuters Health reports that researchers have shown that people with elevated triglycerides are at an increased risk of having a heart attack, even when their cholesterol levels are normal. This study adds to the growing evidence on the importance of high triglycerides as a risk factor for heart disease.
{HealthCentral.com - June 2000}

High blood levels of triglycerides often go hand in hand with low levels of “good” HDL cholesterol, and in a number of cases, high “bad” LDL cholesterol. The lifestyle steps necessary for improving the levels of these various substances in the blood often overlap, but not always. Decrease and cut way back on alcohol consumption.
{“When Your Number’s Up, Is Your Number Up?” Washington Post Health, August 1, 2000} Alcohol reduces the amount of the enzyme that breaks down triglycerides.
{Steven Inkles, MD, assistant clinical professor of medicine at UCLA Medical School and physician at Pritikin Longevity Center}



Posted by: golddust

Thank you Dr. Terri!!!



golddust



Posted by: betrdanevr

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Originally Posted by golddust
Thank you Dr. Terri!!!



golddust

Hardly!! Just a subject that struck *home turf* in many ways.

. . . and if you ever see a vial of your husband's blood and the top 1/4th of it looks like Ivory liquid, you won't forget it! (yuck, but true)



Posted by: candy

I have an active interest in health related issues primarily because allopathic medicine nearly killed me and alternative medicine keeps me going.
The red wine highest in the element thought to give protection is a cabernet and you can get the same effect from red grape juice.
From what I have read in the alternative literature cholesteral numbers are not nearly as important as we are lead to believe; as a matter of fact low numbers may be linked to a higher risk of a massive vascular stroke {bleeding in the brain}. The substance that will do in your heart is homocystine and it can be eliminated with B-complex vitimans which can be found in red meat.
BTW the study that was the most accurate in predicting the incidence of cardio-vacular disease was the work of Jonh Yudkin and it was based on per capita sugar consumption. Sweet and Dangerous (1972)



Posted by: golddust

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Sweet and Dangerous (1972)


I'm not doubting the findings but, there's just got to be more recent studies than this.

golddust



Posted by: forwardone

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Originally Posted by golddust
I'm not doubting the findings but, there's just got to be more recent studies than this.

golddust
Here in the UK I think that sometimes we get `weary` of the latest recommendations coming out of Government.

One minute this, the next that! We shouldn`t eat this, we should eat that. Then not much later we hear the opposite. Very, very, difficult to keep up with changing views of the so-called `experts.`

Diets being the prime example of disagreement among the `experts.`

Geoff



Posted by: golddust

It is no different in the US. Something recommended as bad now, that was once recommended as "good" has already gotten you by now. I figure I am past due.

It's always something . . .

But not to get off topic, I think the most recent health information is most valuable, given that we are "still here".


golddust



Posted by: candy

I tend to like time tested things and orignial sources but if you want more current information try the the works of Sears (The Zone Diet) and Pellicione (The Pellicione Perscription).
The trouble with a lot of the studies that come out is that the people paying for the study get the results they want. It is a good idea to follow the money trail of the latest hot fad. The older works were often pure research not promotion for a new drug.



Posted by: forwardone

Wasn`t that great in `Mrs Doubtfire` when `she` was asked about her `husband`?

When talking about her `husband` and saying about the drink killing him, `she` then went on to say something like "he got hit by a Guinness truck."

Over here drinks like Stout and Guinness are sometimes viewed as good for providing iron, and at one time visitors were allowed to take such drinks to patients in hospital to `help them recuperate.`

Geoff



Posted by: forwardone

Yet another report, this time researching the effects of wine versus beer.

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Wine or beer? Both equal higher blood pressure.

Red wine might be considered good for overall health, but it raises blood pressure nearly as much as beer does, Australian researchers reported on Monday.

People at risk of high blood pressure should not switch to red wine in the hope of being able to drink more, they concluded.

"A positive relationship between alcohol consumption and blood pressure is well established, but the relative effect of specific alcoholic beverages is controversial," said Renate Zilkens of the University of Western Australia, who led the study.

Some drinkers may have hoped that red wine's antioxidant compounds could counteract the effects of alcohol in raising blood pressure. But, writing in the American Heart Association journal Hypertension, Zilkens and colleagues said they found no such effect in 24 healthy, non-smoking men.

All the men, aged 20 to 65, said they drank alcohol daily but had normal blood pressure and no history of heart disease.

For the experiment the men abstained from all alcohol for two weeks and then took either another month of abstinence, 375 ml (13 ounces) of red wine a day, de-alcoholized red wine, or 1125 ml (38 ounces) of beer. Each man cycled through all four groups over four months.

When drinking beer, the men had on average a higher systolic blood pressure (the first number in a blood pressure reading) of 2.9 millimeters of mercury (mm Hg). Daily wine drinking raised systolic pressure by an average of 1.9 mm Hg.

Beer also increased the sleeping heart rate by five beats a minute on average while wine made it go up by more than four beats a minute.

"The advice to drinking men 'at risk' of hypertension and those with hypertension is to drink less than two drinks per day," said Zilkens. "At that level they will still benefit from the HDL ("good") cholesterol-raising effect and anti-coagulant properties of alcohol which are considered to be protective of the heart."

Publish Date: April 20, 2005

Geoff




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