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FLO Evocash the Same company?

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Posted by: edward

Is it possible?

-Both companies disappeared at around the same time.

-Flo used the Evocash Excuse as an excuse to stop paying out

-Both companies were pretty much anonymous

-Both companies had millions of $'s to gain from running

-Without Evocash it's hard to gain too much evidence on people's losses with Flo, considering most transactions went through evocash. With no records with the demise of Evocash, FLo can escape relatively easily with millions of $'s.

Whats your opinions?


Posted by: forwardone

I`d never rule anything out as far as which company owns which, and that applies equally to both on and offline businesses.

If Flo and Evocash are the same they did a very good job of concealing the fact in what would be one of the biggest conspiracies of all time on the Internet. Although both programs stopped their activities around the same time, am I right in saying that Evocash was set up well before FLO?

I`ve no sound evidence one way or the other, but my `feeling`, using whatever logic can be applied to the FLO/EVO scenarios is that they aren`t the same, and in an ironic set of circumstances actually helped each other to suffer the major problems we`ve witnessed.

If FLO doesn`t return I`m sure that a lot of members will put much of the blame on EVO, and I`m equally sure that a lot of EVO users and the Company itself views FLO as the reason for it`s downfall.

Geoff


Posted by: ydutil

Juliano from GV has some interesting theories about EVO --> X-Changer --> FLO

It's worth reading

How about the rumors that PseudoElmo has something to do with all this?


Posted by: jopalim

Quote:
Originally Posted by ydutil
Juliano from GV has some interesting theories about EVO --> X-Changer --> FLO

It's worth reading

How about the rumors that PseudoElmo has something to do with all this?
Ydutil, where can I find this write-up? Thanks and regards.


Posted by: ydutil

It's on the GlobalVantage forum, in the National and Electronic Currencies section, under the post named "Warning! Evocash = X-Changers = FLO?"


Posted by: forwardone

Edward wrote:
Quote:
Both companies were pretty much anonymous
Isn`t it ironic that people are screaming that governments get too involved in Internet affairs, yet the anonymity of companies allows them to remain at arms length without anyone really knowing what`s going on?

Could we possibly imagine this question ever being asked about two companies operating outside of Cyberspace which handled millions of customer dollars?

In a discussion at TG about the spammer who may end up serving several years in jail, one poster suggested that government should stay out of the Internet. A post was also made suggesting that the Internet could be self-regulating.


Geoff


Posted by: candy

Since I believe that EVO was the first of the 3 to come to market it would imply that first X-changers and then FLO were created by EVO. It is an interesting scenario especially given allegations that EVO had made a habit of freezing accounts. Why not create a pyramid and then claim misdealings and "freeze" the funds to "protect" the investors keeping all the cash for yourself. As a scam it has a certain elegance. It leaves everybody pointing fingers at each other and missing the big picture. Diabolically brilliant.


Posted by: memorex

Although I can see the proximity between the Xchangers and Evocash.
I do not believe that their was any involvement with FVG apart from the freezing of funds and an escape route for the Xman & his funds.
The simplest answer is to report them to the authorities and see whether they will take up the challenge.
I also thought that there were strong ties to FLO with Patryn & PseudoElmo as they revel in this situation.
Patryn with his money laundering technique and elmo with his contacts in the tech field of Beowulf class cluster computers.
I may be wrong but this is my theory on this program and its conceptional ideals.


Posted by: rixzta

Good Grief...........

This sure is in the right folder


Posted by: memorex

Agh did you get as leave pass or authority from Debrains to speak on another forum )

I used to be sure but now I am not so decisive !!!


Posted by: rixzta

You really are pathetic James.....grow up you fool.....


Posted by: steff

Dear Memorex I don't think is a wealthy answer from a Moderator so please do what is established to you here !!


Quote:
Agh did you get as leave pass or authority from Debrains to speak on another forum )
Back to topic I think what you have posted is very elementary resolution just suppositions and thoughts only that ........I agree with rixzta.

Quote:
Although I can see the proximity between the Xchangers and Evocash.
I do not believe that their was any involvement with FVG apart from the freezing of funds and an escape route for the Xman & his funds.
The simplest answer is to report them to the authorities and see whether they will take up the challenge.
I also thought that there were strong ties to FLO with Patryn & PseudoElmo as they revel in this situation.
Patryn with his money laundering technique and elmo with his contacts in the tech field of Beowulf class cluster computers.
I may be wrong but this is my theory on this program and its conceptional ideals.



Posted by: forwardone

steff, I think that you are correct when you say :
Quote:
just suppositions and thoughts only that ......
I suspect that this is one subject where we will never really get to the bottom of things. Still, it`s fun trying though.

Geoff


Posted by: crocnot

Quote:
Originally Posted by ydutil
Juliano from GV has some interesting theories about EVO --> X-Changer --> FLO

It's worth reading

How about the rumors that PseudoElmo has something to do with all this?

Hi Ydutil,

This is the first time I hear about a possible involvement from PseudoElmo. Where can I read about this or could you explain it in a nutshell?

Thank you.


Posted by: ydutil

Bits of informations gathered on private forums and 2 different exchangers who associated past PseudoElmo financial infos with FLO's ones.

Elmo is known for running ponzis (more than one) Maybe he's perfecting his art

I'm just reporting what I have heard, not offically accusing anyone


Posted by: betrdanevr

Guess I haven't been at the right place at the right time! LOL I didn't know Pseudoelmo ran any ponzis. Currently?

FWIW, he's posted at HYIPrograms in the last 10 days, so he's still around.

Wonder if he's on TG with a different username?


Posted by: Salty

the speculation (originated from Juli of gv?) goes like that:
evo=x-ch=flo=safemail=i2d (invest2double, i added)= ...

you guys all remember that seems only evo promoting safemail?

now a new case in favour of the rumor:
proxl just claimed lost several hundreds K of EG with a very "secure" computer. and proxl has been using safemail.

so guys, at least never use safemail for important accounts!


Posted by: Jacon

Well, salty - I really don't know, what security of my accounts have to do with using safe-mail ?
When I open any new account, and get confirmation over safe-mail, I simply
change my pass right then - thats it :-)
That new data never goes over safe-mail again... Or you think the problem is
with data looking in email like this: "*******"
And the account is still not funded at that time...

Over 2 years now of intensive safe-mail use - without any probs


Posted by: Salty

its just a speculation.
possible using safemail to record your info, your eg acct number, and the way you setup passwords?

just keep an eye on the experienced ones who lost eg, its interesting.



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