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Posted by: forwardone

Well this is a strange one. This program came out about 8 months ago, but due to difficulties it closed soon afterwards. But, it refunded all it`s investors within a fairly short time period, in full!

Now though, it`s sent this email out to it`s ex-members saying that the program has come back.

What do you think? Is it to be trusted more than normal due to it repaying it`s members last time, or could this be an Xmas scam?

Quote:

Astra - private invitation
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:19:09 -0500

Dear Online Investor

In early spring of 2004 you placed funds with our trading
operation, Astra Systems. At the time we got off to a good start but
encountered several technical difficulties and decided to stop our
online activity.

Everybody received a full 100% refund. We posted a detailed
note on our site explaining what happened. You may review the text
of this announcement under the updates section on our new website.

We said we will be back.

The time is NOW, we ARE back, better and stronger than
ever.

Very soon we will officially launch our program on the
World Wide Web.

You are invited to join our program before the official
launch.

Why you? Because you were among the first Astra members to
invest with us back in Spring 2004.

What's in it for you? We will add 10 Dollars to your account opening
balance. And yes, that is a valid offer for both plans. Should you
decide to open an account for each option you will find an additional
10 Dollars in both your accounts.

Please understand, you need to invest at least the 10 Dollars minimum
to take advantage of this exclusive offer, an offer that increases the value of your investment by 100% instantly.

Once you have invested please allow 24 hours for your bonus $10 to be added to your account.

For how long is this offer running before we start with the official
launch on the WWW? We do not know precisely, depends on the
response but we anticipate 4 to 7 days.

Looking forward to welcome you back to our group.

http://www.ASTRAsystems.net?sid=investgroup

AstraSystemsTeam

Geoff

Posted by: betrdanevr

I'm leery of putting $$ in there right before the holidays -- though they may be trustworthy; I dunno . . . .

And especially before the official "launch." They could just decide they didn't get enough money and not launch.

There is a referral scheme and their current site hosting is only good for a few more months.

Posted by: max123

I was a member of this "astra" - they totally scammed me & nothing refunded. Stay away from this xmas scam!

Posted by: forwardone

Quote:

they totally scammed me & nothing refunded

That`s bad news max123.

Now that they are up and running again (well almost) have you thought of trying to contact them to obtain a refund from the first time? It might be worth a try, especially if they are claiming to have made full refunds from then.

Geoff

Posted by: betrdanevr

Quote:

Originally Posted by max123

I was a member of this "astra" - they totally scammed me & nothing refunded. Stay away from this xmas scam!

Oh, you're kidding! So sorry, Yuri. That DEFINITELY paints the picture even "moreso."

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Hello there

My name is Herbert Kronbaum, I am one of the astra team
guys and it appears it's time to say something.
I got notified about a couple of negative posts on this
forum. Since we are listed here and spent some ad $ I
might as well join the club and say a few words.

Obviously the Yuri post was a joke, not a nice one and
not a constructive one either but a joke anyway.

As for the xmas money grab theme, I heard that about
us on another board. I heard that about every program
launching towards the end of the year.
Don't you think the program admins have figured this out
too?
Would astra be more trustworthy had we re-launched in
Jan or Feb?? What's the point? We were ready to go so
we did, no matter what time of the year.
Besides xmas is upon us in a few hours and we are still here.

It simply does not make sense to re-work the entire
website, new hosting service and so on to run a
short-sighted stupid little scam for a couple of weeks.
In any case scepticism accepted, make your own
decisions.

Any questions, email us and since I am a member here
now you can ask me here too and I will answer here .

Regards

Herb

http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: forwardone

Quote:

Any questions, email us and since I am a member here
now you can ask me here too and I will answer here .

First things first, and that`s to welcome you to the Web life forum, Herb.

I`m not going to pick point by point through your comments, as I was never a member of the original program anyway. Apart from the Yuri (max123) post which you claim isn`t true, I have to say that all other comments I`ve heard about you refunding members` payments have been positive.

As for scepticism, as I`m sure you well know that in the HYIP arena that goes with the territory. Too many scams exist, and the savvy `investors` don`t leap before having a good look first.

That aside, I`m sure the members will welcome the opportunity to ask you questions about your re-formed program here in the forum. It makes members feel a little more comfortable when they have easy access to an Admin of a program, apart from the usual means of emailing etc.

To get a couple of questions in then, your email said

Quote:

You are invited to join our program before the official
launch.

Has the program now been officially launched? Also, I know the free $10 bonus was short term, so has that now finished?

Thanks

Geoff

Posted by: forwardone

Ah! I`ve just answered one of my own questions.

Quote:

December 15, 2004
Bonus Investments
Thank you for your participation in the special bonus program. As of today the special bonus is no longer available.

Anyway, I wish you success in your venture.

Geoff

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Thank you for the welcome, Geoff

betrdanevr (Terri) most likely has a more positive (or
less negative) opinion about astra as we met already
on another forum.

Yuri, if your remark was not meant as a joke please provide
details. Should we have missed your refund for some strange
reason we will of course take care of this upon verification.
According to our books everybody received a full refund and
not a single investor contacted us claiming his refund never
made it back to him.

The bonus question is cleared up. The official launch is in
progress.

Happy Holidays to everybody

Herb
_________________________
http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: betrdanevr

Herb,

Had I the ability to do it over again, I'd have just stuck a $10 in your program and reported the payments on the forum. I feel kinda responsible for these threads since I brought up the subject of Astra when I got your e-mail.

Sometimes I should just go with my original gut reaction (even though sometimes it's lost me $$, that's the name of the game in hyip, so it seems).

I found and do find you to be a straight-up guy. I'm glad to see you back and I hope everything works out to be a big GO for Astra Systems. When I get some gold freed up, I'll give it a go again.

Max123 is a straight-up guy as well and wouldn't pull a fast one on ya, Herb, not in my experience, anyway. So there was either a glitch, or else Max123 just has so many investments, he couldn't see the repayment in his e-gold account.

(And he is a moderator on another forum, so this would be of assistance to your business.

)

Max123, please communicate with Herb! This kind of communication and willingness to make things right is something you don't see much in hyip!!

Merry Christmas, everybody, and let's hope 2005 is a prosperous one for all of us -- admins and members alike.

And Herb, if you have any investing insights for hyipers -- in addition of course to investing in AstraSystems -- we would probably all be interested.

Regards,
Terri

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Quote:

Originally Posted by betrdanevr

Herb,

Had I the ability to do it over again, I'd have just stuck a $10 in your program and reported the payments on the forum. I feel kinda responsible for these threads since I brought up the subject

I found and do find you to be a straight-up guy. I'm glad to see you back and I hope everything works out to be a big GO for Astra Systems. When I get some gold freed up, I'll give it a go again.

And Herb, if you have any investing insights for hyipers -- in addition of course to investing in AstraSystems -- we would probably all be interested.

Regards,
Terri

Hi Terri

Thank you for your positive comment.

How about this idea, give me your e-gold acct# and I'll send you
$20 which you can then invest, $10 each in the weekly and bi-weekly.
This way you will get a closer look at how we work and what we do.
You are not requested to report "paid"

We are not a daily
plan and therefore we won't be able to create a long list of
"paid" posts.

Other hy investments? Check this out for an idea:

http://www.italiancar.com.au/pilot/art154.htm

they sold 60 cars in 3 minutes - one can assume some of
the callers arranged to get their hands on several cars.
You can imagine that it is very easy to sell your purchase
contracts that very same day for a little premium considering
there is a waiting list of 18 months.

Regards

Herb
___________________________
http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: forwardone

Cool Maserati.

Posted by: betrdanevr

Oh, it "had me" at the mahogany wood accents.

So THAT's how the rich get richer, by scalping Maseratis!

Well, Herb, I wasn't asking you to suggest other hyips, just in general any observations, thoughts you might have. I assume you've been around hyips for awhile in order to have the gumption to start one.

I certainly wasn't hinting, but I will PM you my account info and I WILL "pass it on" to a deserving soul when there are enough funds in the account to do so. Thank you, Herb, and Merry Christmas.

Terri

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Terri, you said "When I get some gold freed up, I'll give it a go
again."
I thought you indicated that you had no gold ready to invest therefore
my proposal.
I am not clear what you mean by "I WILL pass it on to a deserving soul
when there are enough funds in the account to do so."
In the meantime I sent you some gold to your account.

My thoughts on hyip's - I will comment when I get some more time.
You should however keep in mind whatever I say and anybody else
for that matter are opinions based on past experience and future
expectations not so called investor advice. But then investor advice
is an oxymoron anyway.

Btw. how do you define a deserving soul?

Regards

Herb
_________________________
http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: betrdanevr

Hi, Herb!

Got the $10 and put it into the biweekly program. Thank you.
Thank you very much.

Yes, I told you that I didn't have any gold ready to invest, and that's true. And what I meant by, "I will pass it on to a deserving soul when there are enough funds in the account to do so," I meant when there's $10 in interest built up in my Astra account, or another $10 in my e-gold, whichever comes in first, I'll "pay it forward" or "gift" somebody else into AstraSystems.

As far as who a deserving soul is, that'll be whoever I know at that point in time, that I think could use the income. I have a particular friend or two in mind.

Thank you again.

Regards,
Terri

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTRA-admin

Terri, you said "When I get some gold freed up, I'll give it a go
again."
I thought you indicated that you had no gold ready to invest therefore
my proposal.
I am not clear what you mean by "I WILL pass it on to a deserving soul
when there are enough funds in the account to do so."
In the meantime I sent you some gold to your account.

My thoughts on hyip's - I will comment when I get some more time.
You should however keep in mind whatever I say and anybody else
for that matter are opinions based on past experience and future
expectations not so called investor advice. But then investor advice
is an oxymoron anyway.

Btw. how do you define a deserving soul?

Regards

Herb
_________________________
http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: jojomataketa

Quote:

Originally Posted by betrdanevr

As far as who a deserving soul is, that'll be whoever I know at that point in time, that I think could use the income. I have a particular friend or two in mind.

Thank you again.

Regards,
Terri

Gee Terri, you are too kind. I am bushing!..Thanks in advance, anyway.

Posted by: Salty

My group and I were in the old one and now in the new one.

All the promised $10 bonus also in members' accts.
So far so good.

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

But we are not! Please be patient, it is not 100% clear yet
what is causing the down-time, could be due to burstnet's server
relocation. No reason for concern, we will post updates as soon
as we have further news.

Regards

Herb

http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: betrdanevr

Thanks, Herb. I was just logging in here to see if there was a post about this or to inquire, myself. Appreciate the update.

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Below you can read what we received from the hosting
company. We will decide in the next 24 hours how we
will handle the situation with regards to DOS protection
and future attacks.

Sorry for this inconvenience. Please be advised your
money is safe and you will not get short changed on
your interest payments.

Any questions, concerns, suggestions please contact us
at astrateam@mailc.net

Regards

Herb

--------------------------------
Dear Sir,

Yesterday at 2:00 am we had a ddos attack at your
ip 207.218.158.58. In order to keep the network up
we had to block all traffic to that IP.

At this point the ip is still under attack and we
will activate the ip once the attack stop.

We think this could be within 24 hours.

Since we are not able to detect the domain under
attack all domains under that ip will be down
until the attack stop.

------

Posted by: forwardone

This apparently was the threat received by Astra from the DDoS attacker, posted at TG.

Quote:

From "teen van hoe" <teenvanhoe@yahoo.com>
To astrateam@mailc.net [Add]
Subject According attacks on your site. You can stop it.

Hello!

Im understand your problems with this attack, but business is business.
Everyone live in other spheres, and sometimes it clashes. Im attacker of
your site. Now i shutted down attack for a couple of hours. Allow about
a hours to full clearing, because it is worldwide attack, and can not be
stopped within one minute. Also i'll double this message to your
astrasystems.net's e-mail. I want to stop the war, the my conditions is
- $1000 by e-gold to account 506400.
After it i'll stop all attacks to your site. The scheduled resumption of
attack - 22:30 GMT, but i can stop it if you face a task to this time.
Also you can transfer it after 22:30 GMT, when your site will be
off-line, and i'll stop attack within 3-4 hours.

Just let me know

Geoff

Posted by: jaukki

One would think that that e-gold account would quite quickly have a balance limit imposed to it.... Could that actually be the motive behind the post or is it from a real DDOSser?

Posted by: betrdanevr

What are you driving at, Jaukki, by "could that actually be the motive behind the post?" I'm curious. Do you mean somebody WANTS their e-gold account balance limited??? <admittedly, I'm thick today>

I e-mailed e-gold about it, FWIW. Not that Herb hasn't done that already.

Posted by: betrdanevr

I received a reply from e-gold today. They want the letter Herb received, including the headers. I've passed this along to Herb to follow up on.

Posted by: khoong25

hmm... interesting how the situation is turning out.
If you noticed, the egold number is quite 'old' ?

Posted by: forwardone

Perhaps that`s one reason for the buying and selling of older e-gold numbers?

Geoff

Posted by: forwardone

From their site today.

Quote:

January 20, 2005
Site Back Up
Please be patient while we rebuild our data files. All interest payments and outstanding withdrawals will take place within the next 24 hours.

Geoff

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Thanks for the support everybody! So far so good, the ddos attackers are
off our and other programs' backs. We are evaluating possibilities how to
prevent this from happening in the future. Nothing is of course 100% fool
proof. Even investing large sums in protection will not eliminate the possibility
of interruptions.

Regarding the investigation (thanks so much for your efforts, Terri)
we hope that e-gold will be able to locate the nasty fellow. Appears
5YearBond got blackmailed by the same individual.

On the brighter side...

All interest payments and withdrawals are up to date and we are looking
forward to continue our business with focus on our investors and their
requirements.

Herb

http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: betrdanevr

My pleasure, Herb.

And I got PAID again. Thanks, Herb!

Terri

Posted by: Salty

Such similar emails were reveiled by some program owners about 2 years ago.
- Hack and steal your data
- Pull down your site
- Steal your money if possible
- Now raise ddos attacks.

Seems not a rare scene.

Posted by: betrdanevr

And I'm happy to report that Astra Systems is working just fine. Payments are credited on time, out-exchanges are paid, referral commissions are paid. Everything is Hunky Dorrie.

Posted by: forwardone

Glad to hear it, Terri. There were some initial concerns over their `return` but by coming back from a failed blackmail attempt on them by DDoSers they will help to create more confidence in the program.

Geoff

Posted by: betrdanevr

They certainly must have cat blood in them, as this is their "third" life!

Posted by: risktaker

any news now? their site has been down a few days now, just after i was liking them again

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

And there will be a fourth life, Terri!
Keep liking us, risktaker - thanks!

It is very frustrating, several sites are under attack again.
I do get the impression however that Astra is being targeted
in particular for reasons we can only assume but appear obvious.

We are working on a solution but the more sophisticated the
solution the more people need to get involved the longer it
takes. If all falls in place some time this weekend the site
will be up and running.

We will be back 100% sure, there is no money lost, your
funds produce interest with or without our site being online.

Please advise your friends or anybody you think should know,
there is no reason for concern about the continuation of the
program.

WE WILL BE BACK

Regards

Herb

ASTRAteam

Posted by: betrdanevr

Far be it for me to be impatient, but . . .

Whazzup???

Posted by: betrdanevr

Okay. "Herb's back!" Just received this e-mail, logged into my Astra-Systems accounts and all is well!

Quote:

Dear Members and Investors,

Thank you for your patience. After resolving our first
ddos attack we were hit again. We have now secured a
more robust hosting solution as well as invested in a
backup plan in the event we are attacked again.

All systems are running again. Please allow a 48
hour window for withdrawals as we catch up.
Interest postings will be made in the next 24
hours. If you have any questions regarding
your account please email and we will look
into the situation right away.

Thank you
Astra Support

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Thanks for posting this, Terri.http://web-life.org/vb/images/smilies/wink.gif

For everybody's info here a quick message I posted on a couple of other boards:

Are we gone for good?
--------------------------
Of course not. As promised ASTRAsystems is back up and running, all
payments will be processed, nobody lost any money.

Back up systems will be up and running by this weekend.

An interesting experience, certainly we learned a lot about hosting
providers.

Some automatic rating sites will show a distorted picture of our
position, other more "manually" managed monitoring sites will reflect
our actual position which is back in business and paying.

Further improvements and additional features will be introduced very
shortly. Stay tuned!

Thank you for your support

Herb

http://astrasystems.net

Posted by: forwardone

This is a strange one! I`m reading reports of various sites blacklisting this program as a scam, yet I don`t think I`ve seen ONE post where anyone has actually complained of not being paid.

I`ve read a post elsewhere in which Herb vigorously defends his program.

So, what`s the current state of affairs, does someone have a grudge against them with their own hidden agenda on this?

Is Astra still paying out as usual? Or, should members start getting worried?

Geoff

Posted by: rixzta

I do not think there is any cause for concern here Geoff. I am getting paid, the posts that you refer to offer nothing in the way of proof.

Posted by: candy

Perhaps they are on ASOT's hit list.
If they are they have some good company.

Posted by: golddust

Quote:

So, what`s the current state of affairs, does someone have a grudge against them with their own hidden agenda on this?

One must consider the hidden agenda of ASOT.

golddust

Posted by: betrdanevr

Quote:

Originally Posted by forwardone

This is a strange one! I`m reading reports of various sites blacklisting this program as a scam, yet I don`t think I`ve seen ONE post where anyone has actually complained of not being paid.

Geoff

Could you fill me in where these posts are? I guess I haven't been doing "the rounds" lately, so this is new to me.

I've had absolutely no problems getting paid by Astrasystems.

Terri

Posted by: forwardone

Quote:

Originally Posted by betrdanevr

Could you fill me in where these posts are? I guess I haven't been doing "the rounds" lately, so this is new to me.

http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showt...highlight=astra

Geoff

Posted by: golddust

I don't have any concerns with Astra. They just had some ddos problems I think. Nothing more. Too bad TG is their forum host. Seems like nothing but bad news and naysayers are increasing there...

golddust

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Thanks for your support and positive comments.
I am sorry I do not post much but it is somewhat difficult as
an admin to discuss other programs.

Geoff: No reason to get worried, all under control, all is
running fine and getting better.
Rating sites - I believe my post on TG explains it in detail. We had a
similar discussion on a German board with the same result.

And while we are at it, there is a poster here on this board with the
handle "highyieldprog" and he features a signature slogan:
"Highyieldbiz Accurate Hyip Review and Private HYIP List"
I checked his site and what do I see under the heading:
"Trouble High Yield Program" ?

Astra Systems
Since: Dec 2004
Status:Gone

If you read this, "highyieldprog", please adjust according to your
slogan! Thank you.

Golddust: forum hosted by TG - it was Yuan's idea, he is our client and
represents us on his Chinese language forum. I trust him, I have no
choice of course but trust him. I can handle German but Chinese,
Cantonese or even Mandarin is beyond my capacity

Anyway, Yuan set up this forum on TG but unfortunately it disappears
among the other 500 program forums. It's real purpose is perhaps, should
we experience site outages again at least we have a quick way to
communicate.

We are playing with the idea to run our own forum on a separate server,
different server location but I am not sure if this is really a
requirement, something the investing public wants from us. If so, we
will set it up.

Thank you for your attention

Herb

http://www.astrasystems.net

Posted by: Salty

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTRA-admin

Thanks for your support and positive comments.
I am sorry I do not post much but it is somewhat difficult as
an admin to discuss other programs.

Geoff: No reason to get worried, all under control, all is
running fine and getting better.
Rating sites - I believe my post on TG explains it in detail. We had a
similar discussion on a German board with the same result.

And while we are at it, there is a poster here on this board with the
handle "highyieldprog" and he features a signature slogan:
"Highyieldbiz Accurate Hyip Review and Private HYIP List"
I checked his site and what do I see under the heading:
"Trouble High Yield Program" ?

Astra Systems
Since: Dec 2004
Status:Gone

If you read this, "highyieldprog", please adjust according to your
slogan! Thank you.

Golddust: forum hosted by TG - it was Yuan's idea, he is our client and
represents us on his Chinese language forum. I trust him, I have no
choice of course but trust him. I can handle German but Chinese,
Cantonese or even Mandarin is beyond my capacity

Hi Herb, nice to see you here again.

One thing I think you did right is to skip all such rating and monitoring logos on your site. Do such things help? No!

As for this hyiprog, I think its a kindda shabby figure. If he thinks your prog will benifit him, he would call Astra as "AT" or sth like that, in misleading members to his shabby services.

The forum at TG:
http://talkgold.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=128

I think its always good to keep members informed about the progreaa on a weekly base.

Good luck!

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

I do not want to post every update we send out but I thought
to post at least this part of our last update as it explains
another benefit for our members.

Our efforts to improve the quality of our program continue.
We have the pleasure to offer you now a 128 bit SSL secure
personal Astra member area. Please log in to your account
and try it out.

Additionally we recently upgraded our server connection
substantially to support additional traffic and guarantee fast
downloading and operation of our site.

Of course we will not stop here, further ideas and concepts are
being tested and will be introduced once their feasibility has been
confirmed. We strive to make Astra a better place to invest and
grow your money.

Regards

Herb

ASTRAteam

Posted by: golddust

Thanks for the communication Herb. You are doing a great job with ASTRA.

golddust

Posted by: forwardone

Thread title changed as this program has now established a record of payments.

Geoff

Posted by: forwardone

Apparently there was some concern raised about the domain re-registration being due in about one month`s time, but reassurance has been given from Herb that this will be done in time. Also, a new plan was released last week.

Quote:

Last week we introduced an new plan for investors with a longer
term goal and safety priorities. It took some effort to put this
together and we sure will not let the domain renewal get in the
way of our projects.

Herb

Geoff

Posted by: FutureGizmo

I've got no problem receiving my weekly payment from them. A good program indeed, but I'm still exercising caution. I'm taking my initial principal out first before compounding my account. Three more weeks then I'm already break-even. We'll see what happens then.

Posted by: forwardone

I`ve moved this thread to the `Proven Payers` folder as Astra Systems has been around and paying for quite a few months now.

Geoff

Posted by: forwardone

Herb now states that he has paid for a further 12 months domain registration.

Geoff

Posted by: golddust

GOOD TO HEAR!!!

In profit and one of the few programs I will recommend.

golddust

Posted by: FutureGizmo

Quote:

Originally Posted by forwardone

Herb now states that he has paid for a further 12 months domain registration.

There was an issue with this one, though. Why extend it for just one year if you expect your program to last beyond that? To think that you can save more by reserving your domain name for some time. That's a valid concern, but well, extending a name for one more year is still much better than not extending at all.

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

The domain registration issue - to get this aspect under
control we extended our domain registration and we
liked 2008. The Chinese love everything with 8. This should
bring good fortune to all Astra members.

Regards

Herb
http://astrasystems.net/

Posted by: FutureGizmo

Thanks for the update, Astra-Admin. I am in one in hoping that your program lasts beyond 2008...

Posted by: golddust

I'll Second That!!!

golddust

Posted by: tintin

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASTRA-admin

The domain registration issue - to get this aspect under
control we extended our domain registration and we
liked 2008. The Chinese love everything with 8. This should
bring good fortune to all Astra members.

Regards

Herb
http://astrasystems.net/

lol...yeah . 8 means make a pile in Chinese. =]

Posted by: golddust

I have heard about the "8" power beliefs of the Chinese.
My birthday = month, date and year = 888.
How lucky can I get?

golddust

Posted by: tintin

wow..... that's cool. lol....xD

Posted by: Salty

8 means prosperity.

Seems many ppls like this number.

Posted by: FutureGizmo

I'm already in profit in this one. Hope it stays longer. The longer, the better, the more profits I earn..

Posted by: fundraiser

My best HYIP, keeps on paying every Monday for the weekly plan, every second Monday for the bi-weekly plan.

Posted by: FutureGizmo

Tomorrow's gonna be Monday, which means payout day again in Astra! Hooray!

Posted by: betrdanevr

Quote:

Originally Posted by golddust

I have heard about the "8" power beliefs of the Chinese.
My birthday = month, date and year = 888.
How lucky can I get?

golddust

Good on ya with the 8's, then, golddust. I hadn't heard of it before. Learn something new every day hanging around these parts. LOL

Yep, Astra's got staying power, I think. One of the 'few good guys' out here in hyips.

Posted by: FutureGizmo

requested for a withdrawal yesterday, and waiting for the payment today. i wonder how long the "8" charm would work for astra?

Posted by: ASTRA-admin

Amazing, gotta be all over the place to make sure the
cynical posts are being satisfied. I know FutureGismo, you
are a full time poster and I realize the tone of your posts
can make or break a less experienced investor's opinion.
So please, use your position with responsibility.

Our database indicates that your withdraw request has
been completed 7/18

Thank you

Herb

Posted by: FutureGizmo

Hi Herb,

I still don't see myself as an authority in this field, one who's able to swing people's opinions from one side to another, although I know some do listen to my opinions as I am a moderator in some forums.

I still keep a bit of cynicism as regards most programs, primarily bcause I've got no proof of their authenticity of any program. I prefer to be a cynic who finishes my posts with a caveat than a cheerleader who would suddenly find himself in an awkward position once the program's done.

Don't worry about your program, as long as it keeps on paying then I won't have anything against it. I actually like your program since you've been here for months now and have paid me consistently every week. What I'm just telling people here is not to be emotionally attached to any program, as there's a high chance these programs would fail sooner or later.

FutureGizmo

PS. Yep, I received your payment on time this week. Thanks for that. Here's to hoping Astra lasts for a looooooooooooooooong time...

Posted by: forwardone

Hopefully nothing sinister in this but a few posters are saying they`ve not received payouts for the last few days.

Geoff

Posted by: tintin

Quote:

Originally Posted by forwardone

Hopefully nothing sinister in this but a few posters are saying they`ve not received payouts for the last few days.

Geoff

Yes... I'm one of them ...... =(

Posted by: FutureGizmo

Yeah, I know some who haven't got their payments this week too. I already received mine though, a day after I requested payment. Is this a bad sign for Astra? We'll see...

Posted by: betrdanevr

Check your e-mail for an update from Herb today containing an explanation of what happened, and instructions about pending withdrawals.

I'd post it here, but I doublechecked my e-mail account and I've deleted it because I wasn't concerned about any pending o/e's because I have no pending o/e's.

Posted by: forwardone

It seems members are now receiving their payments.

Geoff

Posted by: tintin

yeah. i got it . xD

Posted by: forwardone

Quote:

Originally Posted by betrdanevr

Check your e-mail for an update from Herb today containing an explanation of what happened, and instructions about pending withdrawals.

I'd post it here, but I doublechecked my e-mail account and I've deleted it because I wasn't concerned about any pending o/e's because I have no pending o/e's.

This was it,

Quote:

Hello members

As explained in our last update we have some
technical issues which are now increasingly interfering
with our daily operations and customer management.

In the last day we transferred our hosting to another
server system. In the process we were forced to restore
a previous version of our database. This will not affect
any member accounts. However many of the pending
withdraw requests will need to be reinstated and some
of the completed requests may still indicate pending. We
are currently doing an audit on all accounts but your
assistance will help speed up the process. Please check
your member area and re-process any withdraw requests
that you know are missing.

Thank you for your attention and patience.

ASTRAteam

Geoff

Posted by: tintin

well... i found my account at Astrasystems said Completed Interest Withdraw...But i dont have them in my e-gold account. =(

Posted by: forwardone

Herb has posted this elsewhere,

Quote:

It's time to show my presence and let you know that we are alive and
not running anywhere. Your concerns are understandable considering
the volatile environment we operate in.
All incoming emails regarding the delays are presently answered with
the same message as it is not feasible to send individual replies in a
timely manner.

We processed a payout-run which came through ok but a few accounts
apparently were missed meaning some more work has to be done on the
system. Our schedule for this payout process was set for Monday as
stated in our emails sent to account holders but we wanted to test it
yesterday.
The masspay system is obviously not functioning properly at this point.
We are diligently working on a solution.

Thank you for your support and patience.

Herb

ASTRAteam

At least there`s still some communication.

Geoff

Posted by: forwardone

There are still people saying they`ve not received payments. Hopefully this will fully be resolved soon, but meanwhile let`s move this to `Watching and Waiting.`

Geoff

Posted by: tintin

I've got my payment. =]

Posted by: Trinary

nice

Posted by: FutureGizmo

I've requested payout this week, we'll see how it goes.

Has Astra already solved the problem of those members who, according to the site, have already been paid but have not received egold yet?

Posted by: Trinary

Heard some was solved, no idea about everyone...

Posted by: FutureGizmo

Still haven't received payment for my payout request this week. Normally my requests are paid during this time. We'll see what goes on in the next few days.

Posted by: go-ldaddy

Delayed payments were promised on the 1st August but never arrived. I'm still waiting and not received a response to my last email.

Also, my monthly-paid investment has not had interest credited to the account for July.

Several other reports of non-payment in TG.

Goldaddy

Posted by: Onkel_Tom

No answer anymore more from Herbert. That's really pitty. I liked this program and it seems to be for real. If this problems would be temporary, they woul have send a mail for sure.

So ...... another scam you have to colour on your HP.

Tom

Posted by: candy

The payment that I requested on July 29 was made in 48 hours.

Posted by: golddust

Don't know how long this message has been up:

Quote:

AstraSystems staff are doing routine maintenance
to our database systems. We will be back online
within the hour.

Thank you for your patience.

golddust

Posted by: Onkel_Tom

At the moment theis site is unreachable. Maybe they go to another server ???

Posted by: Salty

not a good sign.

Posted by: betrdanevr

Well, I've PM'ed Herb. Let's see if he gets the PM. He posted over on TG on 7/30. Sometimes he's been out-of-pocket for a few days, but he usually comes back with an announcement. Let's hope he 'keeps to form.'

Posted by: golddust

Thanks for that Terri.
... fingers and toes!

golddust

Posted by: Trinary

Best luck to us...

Posted by: betrdanevr

Quote:

Originally Posted by golddust

Thanks for that Terri.
... fingers and toes!

golddust

No problem. No biggie!

Fingers and toes!

Posted by: moremoe

Call me crazy, but I'm still optimistic.

Posted by: golddust

Optimism is not crazy at this point.

golddust

Posted by: Trinary

lol
I'm confused about what you mean, golddust

I'm still optimistic too myself, I still can't believe astra will go down...

Posted by: FutureGizmo

I wonder what "within the hour" means for Astra? Anyway, the site is down for me. Will they be back up? I hope so. If they won't then let's move on...

Posted by: Onkel_Tom

I think, they work on their comeback. The message seems to come from IIS, meaning that some services are not started. That may happen in case of updates.

We will see