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What`s The Mystery With Mysterious Profits?
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Posted by: forwardone
http://mysteriousprofits.com
This is a new program with HUGE boasts, but, would you really trust an Admin who writes this in his Forum?
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Below is a copy of the reply I made to the first post asking this question. So please dont ask again!
Quote:From: Keen spender
Where do you make your money from?
Thanks http://www.mysteriousprofits.com/fo.../icon_smile.gif
The reply:
Quote:From: Admin
I thought we have already covered this on the home page of the website: www.mysteriousprofits.com
We have decided not to tell you how we make your returns. We shall just do what we do and show you the results. We have decided not to tell you how we make the money for a number of reasons:
1. Firstly you dont need to know. If I say we invest in stocks, does it make any difference from if we invest in socks? The money is still made, you make a profit and walk away happy!
2. Telling everyone what we do and how we do it would simply result in more competition. Which is not good for business! As the more capital we are working the larger our cut of the profits will be and the more worthwhile running this program will be.
3. Telling people what we do and how we do it may put our methods in jeopardy. As if people know what we are doing and how we do it, then it will increase public awareness which may result in it becoming much harder to do what we do.
There are a whole load of scams out there who will tell you that they invest in stocks, forex, shares or whatever. They say they invest in these things, but provide you with no proof of what they do and they dont even prove themselves by paying members a profit. Yet you will happily invest into these programs, simply because you want to believe their lies, yet you wont invest into this one, which will prove itself with payouts rather than a paragraph of text.
So you prefer being lied too than not being told at all and you like a piece text rather than actual profits to prove that a program is worth investing in? Odd!
Well for people who are going to think along those lines, I dont think I want your business. You dont deserve to be helped, you can spend the rest of your life trying to make 50cents in the many scams out there!
This program is about making us and our members a lot of money, we are not going to try and make friends, or come down to your level to keep you happy. If you want to make some really quick money, then put in a test investment and in 24hours you will be in complete profit. Otherwise **** off and leave us in peace to make our money.
Cheers!
The Admin.
So there you go! If you dont like it, you know where you can go http://www.mysteriousprofits.com/fo...s/icon_wink.gif
Cheers
The Admin!
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I can think of one or two individuals who might just be so direct about it all.
Oh, and yes, the **** is what you think it is!
Geoff
Posted by: Sstugatz
Maybe it's that he'll mysteriously disapear with the $115 he's collected so far.
What an ar$ehole.
Posted by: WL_lukins82
Personally I will invest in this site. You will see the returns, maybe don't risk too much but your money will be back in 24 hours!!! Make a test spend then after some spends you can simply reinvest your profit and you will be happy. I'm sure.
Luca
Posted by: Sstugatz
Don't do that man, you're just feeding a scammer.
Posted by: WL_lukins82
First Payout received:
http://www.mauri-banci.com/ebay/history.JPG
We will see, but for the moment I have already 40% in my pocket.
Luca
Posted by: forwardone
The program`s only just started, so of course they`ll be paying out at first. That`s the way with ponzis.
Once they build up some sort of record of paying that`s when they cut and run.
Geoff
Posted by: WL_lukins82
ah 
But how can you do a ponzy with a 24 hour payout?
Posted by: Sstugatz
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Originally Posted by WL_lukins82
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But how can you do a ponzy with a 24 hour payout? |
Question is more: How can you invest money you don't even have time to out-exchange?
Posted by: WL_lukins82
If you are right I hope this will be a good ponzy.
Posted by: WL_lukins82
Now, I'm already in active...
I have received an other 157% today!!!!
Posted by: jojomataketa
Payout History
Date
Return Percentage
31 / 03 /2005
116 %
01 / 04 / 2005
140 %
02 / 04 / 2005
157 %
03 / 04 / 2005
120 %
04 / 04 / 2005
200 %
Total Deposits:
$6881.92
Total Payouts:
$10,283.68
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[edited a day after posting the above:
P.S: Hi friends, I have simply copied the info from their site. I have absolutely no idea if they are genuine or a scam. The returns stated are very high. Please exercise caution if you intend to spend...
Cheers,
jojomataketa]
Posted by: Sstugatz
By the amount of promotion you've been giving them over the boards, some might start to think you have something to do with it...
Posted by: jojomataketa
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Originally Posted by Sstugatz
By the amount of promotion you've been giving them over the boards, some might start to think you have something to do with it...
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Hi Simon,
That was my first post anywhere re the above program!! Your statement, "By the amount of promotion you've been giving them over the boards, some might start to think you have something to do with it..." is untrue and indeed unfair on your part.
The reason I posted was simply because the returns for the last 5 days are too good to be true, but they are the actual returns as published on their site. What surprised me was the fact that they have only collected about $6800, but paid out $10,000!
I too don't believe that the program is sustainable but I was simply pointing out the facts, not endorsing the program, as I have no idea regarding who they are, or how they make their money or if it is genuine or a scam....But your statement about me promoting them is not true.
Cheers
jojomataketa
P.S: Anyway Simon, I have taken your point aboard and edited my previous post.
Posted by: forwardone
I can think of another poster in this thread who Simon`s comment is better aimed at. 
Geoff
Posted by: Sstugatz
http://gold-horizons.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3400
Posted by: forwardone
Simon, that`s 
Anyway, those who have taken the plunge must be a bit anxious over this announcement on their forum.
http://www.mysteriousprofits.com/fo...wtopic.php?t=26
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Hello,
Thought that would get your attention http://www.mysteriousprofits.com/fo...s/icon_wink.gif
Sorry for the lack of updates on the website today, but have been run off my feet with making your returns amongst other things!
I will be closing Mysterious Profits on Tuesday for 2-4 days while I sort a few behind the scenes bits and pieces out. As we are running into a bit of a cashflow problem at the moment, as I just cannot get the made money into egold quick enough. And there are some other little things to sort out to keep everything going smoothly.
So I will close the deposit form on Monday at midnight egold time and make the last payouts on tuesday morning at about 10 or 11am egold time. The program will then be closed to new investments for a few days while I sort things out and we should be back online for Friday or something. Then we can resume this frenzied money making!
Payouts will be paid as normal tomorrow & tuesday, dont think we are quite install for another 157% payout, but we are definately in the green http://www.mysteriousprofits.com/fo...con_biggrin.gif
Cheers,
The Admin!
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Geoff
Posted by: Sstugatz
If lukins82 is different from WL_lukins82, then my apologies.
I can't believe people spent in this program either way. It's a big load of crap from the start, and he couldn't have made it clearer by hanging a sign on his site: "I'm a scammer with very dishonest intentions"
Posted by: forwardone
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Originally Posted by Sstugatz
If lukins82 is different from WL_lukins82, then my apologies.
I can't believe people spent in this program either way. It's a big load of crap from the start, and he couldn't have made it clearer by hanging a sign on his site: "I'm a scammer with very dishonest intentions"
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Wow, even I`m getting confused by this one. I was pointing out that jojo wasn`t promoting the program here or anywhere else as far as I was aware.
Geoff
Posted by: Sstugatz
That's because I wasn't talking about jojo originally, Geoff
Posted by: jojomataketa
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Originally Posted by Sstugatz
That's because I wasn't talking about jojo originally, Geoff |
A comedy of errors!
Posted by: Sstugatz
Sorry about the confusion jojo
Posted by: WL_lukins82
I don't understand anythink anymore. What is happening?
To make thinks clear.... I have just seen this program and invest 10$ every day and with the payout list you can see how much I have earned until now. Surely I don't suggest you to invest big amounts, but i would have invest 30$ instead of 10$, now.
Then everyone is old enough to make his decisions, I have only tried to share with you my experience when I have saw that the admin has opened this topic. Next time I will pay more attention before do any post.
Luca
Posted by: forwardone
After such a short period Admin has upped the minimum deposit from $10 to $100! 
Now, call me a cynic, .....but, that tells me something. It ain`t going to be around much longer. NOT one to put fresh funds into, IMO.
Geoff
Posted by: WL_lukins82
I haven't received payout, admin seems to have internet problems....
Posted by: betrdanevr
Ruh-roh. Internet problems. 
Posted by: WL_lukins82
Admin seems to have always internet problems, but I have received my 111% payout today. Someonelse has receveid it?
Posted by: WL_lukins82
I have received an other 114% payout today...I begin thinking that this is not a ponzy.
Posted by: crocnot
You're still getting paid while the website's gone?
Posted by: WL_lukins82
I have received today my last payout. So I think it will be stupid to close the site after payouts....let we see in some hours. Fingers crosses...
Posted by: forwardone
Just had a look and the site`s still unavailable. Watch and wait by those who are still waiting for withdrawals, but it doesn`t look too good. 
This one HAS to be a ponzi, even if it does return.
Geoff
Posted by: jojomataketa
Ponsie or not, giving the devil his due, the returns are simply amazing!
Today he paid 148 %
Some of the previous returns are:
31 / 03 /2005
116 %
01 / 04 / 2005
140 %
02 / 04 / 2005
157 %
03 / 04 / 2005
120 %
04 / 04 / 2005
200 %
(Then, 115%,104%,111%,114%,148%...)
[P.S: I am NOT asking or encouraging anyone to spend there, but simply pointing out the facts so far!! Could be an elaborate cunning scam, who knows!]
Posted by: forwardone
I see the site has now reappeared.
Geoff
Posted by: WL_lukins82
I have received an other 148% today
Posted by: betrdanevr
I will save y'all from "utter doom" by not joining in. Promise.
Posted by: golddust
Terri, you must learn to follow a sense of adventure.
golddust
Posted by: WL_lukins82
Site is down to me....but just received my last payout a couple of hours ago.
Posted by: jojomataketa
It is true that he has paid over 300% in payouts to those that invested daily for the last 11 days of payouts.
It is mysterious how he does it. Forex? Could be but not likely as he pays on weekends too! Don't know how or why he has paid more than what he has received overall, going by the stats published: Total Deposits: $15803.62 Total Payouts:$20908.61.
The other possibility is he is trying to impress and thus suck in a greedy investor who may make a very big deposit like, $10,000, $50,000 or $100,000.......
.....and then run.
What are your opinions?
Time will tell.
Posted by: WL_lukins82
As you said it will be a good think to invest less amounts in the program...or maybe just invest what you have earnes until now.
Luca
Posted by: forwardone
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Originally Posted by jojomataketa
The other possibility is he is trying to impress and thus suck in a greedy investor who may make a very big deposit like, $10,000, $50,000 or $100,000.......
.....and then run.
What are your opinions?
Time will tell.
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Glad you guys have got your money back with some profit. But, I can`t see his profits coming about through Forex trading, not at those rates.
I hate to be so negative, but I still think this is a ponzi, (and don`t forget it`s only been running 16 days), and he`ll end up taking in far more than he gives out.
As you say, jojo, time will tell.
Geoff
Posted by: jojomataketa
I read this on the Mysterious Profits forum:
"Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: MP Closing... Read!--------------------------------------------------------------------Tomorrow will be Mysterious Profits' last payout. All compounding accounts will have their balance paid in full.
News about Mysterious Profits, what it is, how it makes its money and everything will be posted tomorrow.
See you tomorrow.
The Admin!"
Posted by: forwardone
So, NOW we have a clearer idea of what was going on!
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Hello,
Do not have time to post a long post explaining every little detail as my internet is still being an absolute nightmare.
But here are the basics:
Mysterious Profits was basically the testing phase of www.poker-profits.com And as you can see from the Poker Profits (PP) website we made your returns by basically cheating at poker. That really is the long and the short of it.
Poker Profits would never have gotten off the ground if we just said that we played poker, as you simply wouldnt have believed it would have been worth investing in. So I made Mysterious Profits to show you the power and stability that my team can achieve from playing poker.
Mysterious Profits has now come to a close and I dont really have any plans for it in the near future. Everything has now moved over to PP and our investment program will continue from there under a slightly different setup. You are welcome to join that if you like, or you can be on your way now and enjoy the profits you have made during our test phase.
Think that is about it. If you have any questions just send me an email or post at the forum.
Thank you for your participation.
Cheers
The Admin!
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Geoff
Posted by: jojomataketa
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Originally Posted by forwardone
So, NOW we have a clearer idea of what was going on!
Geoff
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So, basically the admin and his mates are ganging up together to cheat some poor gullible punter who has no idea he is being had. What a despicable way to make a living. Sorry, not for me!
Cheers
jojomataketa
Posted by: golddust
It was also mentioned that this was "online" poker, and that they were actually "cheating"... I'm not following the "online" or "table play" technique, but then I only know how to play poker casually.
But ya know jojo, when it comes right down to it, it's not much different than investing in a ponzi or scam, except that in this case, you "know" how the profits are generated. If you didn't know how profits were generated, but earned consistent, high returns like these, would you want to know? Would you invest, or continue to invest?
Setting aside ethics, or moral standards, as is known to happen in online investing - ignorance is bliss.
However, as this information has now gone public, I don't know how this technique is going to survive - not for long I expect.
golddust
Posted by: jojomataketa
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Originally Posted by golddust
But ya know jojo, when it comes right down to it, it's not much different than investing in a ponzi or scam, except that in this case, you "know" how the profits are generated. golddust
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Hi golddust,
Good point!
Cheers,
jojomataketa
Posted by: forwardone
Poker Profits (previously Mysterious Profits) has gone.
Posted by: golddust
I know that Lukins82 was one of the 'players' and he is/or has been 'around' in other forums, most recently over at GH. The admin of the PP program was "James". Lukins will have to disappear and reincarnate, or maybe already has.
I made a over 100% profit in 3 weeks, but I learned by PP forum post that he was shutting down PP as he found a JOB, and I closed my account. Apparently he kept playing then?
Also Invest and Win is gone. They were both run by James.
Sometimes the Christmas runners have had a long time to plan their take and getaway. It is hard to know.
golddust