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Is CAN A Bunch of Fraudsters?

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Posted by: forwardone

What is CAN (apart from Community Action Network)? Is it a bunch of spammers, scammers, who go around threatening anyone who disagrees with them? Or is it a legit program that does as it promises but gets bad publicity sometimes through no fault of it`s own?

Here`s part of a post from one member.
Quote:
If you've been a member of CAN for at least a year then you already know that it is rife with fraud , undelivered services , undelivered products , incompleted programs and a host of lies , mis-representations and super hype . There's a total of about 50,000 members and all but a very few have been lucky enough to get out while they were still paying . Many have funds due that their touted CANPAY system will not release . There are even card holders that have funded their card with outside cash but can't withdraw . Their card should be named " CAN'TPAY " .
Intriguing! Any thoughts on this?

Geoff



Posted by: golddust

CAN is a far cry from what it started out being- a Matrix program with a 'new' technology for pushing a member to the top of the 'pyramid' to get paid, and then re-entered, etc. It started out pretty fast and furious, then the cycling started crawling, meanwhile Rich and Sharon the owners started developing other things CAN card, CAN Cafes/franchises, like PIPs, and it seems that it has all imploded.
Rick used to send "exciting" updates everyday, but I have not heard from him in a very long time. Another losing end.


golddust



Posted by: awty

I still get updates daily, but gave up a long time ago. The 'huge advertising push' is always 'just around the corner'...
Amazing.
Jeff



Posted by: forwardone

Things don`t seem to be resolved with CAN, in fact the chorus of complaints against them appear to be getting louder by the day. It seems the only `community` that Community Action Network is helping is the community who run the show and get a nice income no doubt off it.

Is anyone getting paid by them, do their cards work etc or is CAN a SCAM?

Geoff



Posted by: netpro

Well - it has been over a year since I deposited $50 into the mini. Expect to be paid in 10 years if that soon . Nope - I wrote that scam off a long time ago



Posted by: forwardone

Does anyone still believe this stuff?
Quote:
Well everyone

Its been a very exciting day here at CAN, very exciting.

As we progress with the development of the World Trade Directory Restaurant Owners section we are seeing remarkable interest in the service that we are presenting to the restaurant owners via the survey that we are sending out. After talking to many members who have been involved in this exercise I can see the excitement growing in their conversations.

So far 99% of the restaurant owners have said that the service the World Trade Directory is going to deliver is needed and that they will use it when ready. What better information can we receive but from the horses mouth that the service we are going to deliver is needed and will be used.

As I said the other day the biggest problem that we have in making this a really huge success is getting the number of members we require to become active. We need more of the members to work on this with us. We need people to visit the hot conference room and listen to the events as they unfold. I will give you an example

Earlier to day we received an email from a wine producer asking is there was going to be a specialized category for wine where they can present the wines that are being produced to the restaurant owners. As it would happen we have had several restaurant owners asking if we where going to cover wine as it is of great interest to restaurant owners. We are now in a position that we have 2 wine producers and 1 retired wine expert who are going to provide information to the restaurant owners through the specialized categories. Already after adding the fact that we will be dealing with wine we have seen double the amount of restaurants interested in the service, in just 12 hours.

What we need is the facility to get in touch with more restaurant owners and success is assured for this section of the world trade directory. The only people that can help us do this is the members. The members them selves now have the facility to make this a huge success. What we need is the research information, Yes all you have to do is browse the Internet looking for the information that we need to make this a huge success and generate profits for the main portals Micro , Mini and Maxi.

I have always said that we need the alternative income sources, we now have clear proof that the service is required. Restaurant owners are even suggesting already additional simple features we can add to make it even better. So its up to the members to make this happen

The $2 and $3 programs are running well and we are seeing stead growth in this area. We are starting to fill in some of the gaps created by people signing up and not paying. Please make sure that you account sin these systems are paid up to date

We are hoping that after the disruption of the last week or so with the office move that the payments in the maxi will commence this week and start paying out.

I have herd a rumor that Mypaystems have paid us. I have been looking all day for the money. I would like to point out that Mypaysystems have not paid a penny of the money owed. The day that they do you will all hear about it. It will be day that we break out the champagne in the office.

Our focus is now 110% on the WTD and we are not deviating away from that. This service is what is going to generate massive profits for the portals. The only thing and I repeat the only thing that is slowing us down is collecting information. We are being asked for the service to go live by a few but with more information it will go live with the masses. Its up to you the members to decide. Do we want a few or do we want the masses and generate massive incomes for the portals and make them move.

Its all up to you…. If we do it with a few it will take longer. If we have the masses we will do it in a short time. Its all down to getting as many members involved as possible.

CAN is a real business, built on real business policies. Its not an easy road to success but the thing to remember we will get there in the end, even if I have to do it all on my own. The more that help me the faster we will get there.

Before I go for the day I just want you all to know I am increasing in the next few days the commission percentage to WTD members from 25% to 30%

Watch out for it implementation

Sensible Comments Welcome
Geoff



Posted by: golddust

No, and I guess I have been removed from the mailing list, tho I don't know why since I do have some active portals. I agree with Netpro and wrote them off to 'experience' at least a year ago.
Where did you pick up this information Geoff?


golddust



Posted by: candy

Never bought in but I got 2 updates from them. Not a good sign when those who invested do not hear from the company.



Posted by: forwardone

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
No, and I guess I have been removed from the mailing list, tho I don't know why since I do have some active portals. I agree with Netpro and wrote them off to 'experience' at least a year ago.
Where did you pick up this information Geoff?


golddust

Apparently it was posted on their forum a day or so ago, and I think it was also sent as an email to their members.

Geoff



Posted by: netpro

I still get updates from them but edited my email address so they are sent to one I don't use much. Didn't want to block them JUST IN CASE it was an email that my mini had cycled???????????????? OH BOY - not in this lifetime!



Posted by: golddust

I know how you feel... I have one Maxi, and 4 minis.

I had one mini cycle, but that was about 1 1/2 yrs ago. With all the people who have put money into this program, seems to me it would make more sense to get to cycling faster, rather than starting up new income streams. If members are paid, they will respend and voila, new income stream. However, that CAN debit card is a figment of admins imagination.

golddust



Posted by: betrdanevr

One maxi, one mini, not one has budged in 1-1/2 years. I no longer even check.

I can't believe with that sham of a debit card, that the admin will even raise his head out from under the covers!



Posted by: forwardone

This appears to be their latest offering, but to me this all sounds now like a dead duck. I` ve read very little that`s positive about CAN, most people complain about it.

Quote:
Ok Members

Today we are starting on building up the advertising campaign for the restaurant
system.

I will be in the hotconfernce room working hard with many members, so please
come along and help us. Many hands will make light work. I will be on line for
about the next 15 hours organizing and getting this in place as the members work
with me to prepare the campaign, this is what you call team work


Please come and help, they are doing it for your benefit as well as their own so
don’t sit back and do nothing come and help.


Hope to see you all in the conference room working with us and please stay
posted also for updates as we move forward with the restaurant system of the
WTD…..


HOT CONFERENCE DOWNLOAD LINK

http://www.hotconference.com/softwa...php?id=35015811

Geoff



Posted by: forwardone

They still don`t appear to be getting their act together. I haven`t read ONE post anywhere saying that a member has been paid recently.

Geoff



Posted by: forwardone

Moved folders. Anyone getting paid?

Geoff



Posted by: forwardone

Moved folders if no-one`s now being paid.

Geoff



Posted by: golddust

NO One is getting paid; Rick only send out his communications few and far between, and only to those that still have 'faith' in what he continues to try.
Enough with the morphing already... CAN is finished, tried to become (?), but lost interest for lack of genuine offerings. A PIPs wannabe at best, and a far piece from where they were headed over 2 years ago.

golddust



Posted by: forwardone

It seems the can scam continues. Now they are running a `Get a Swiss bank account` program.

http://bankken.com/services.html

The payments to PayPal go straight to CAN.

Swiss bank accounts opened for less than $100? I don`t know whether to or . What do you think?

Geoff



Posted by: forwardone

According to this site it looks like anyone, including CAN, offering a Swiss bank account for so little deposit isn`t being genuine.

http://swiss-bank-accounts.com/e/faq/cheaper.html

Geoff




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