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Huge petition is in process
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Posted by: hawk

If anyone wants to help in support to Bryan and PIPS, huge petitions is in process now at Rolclub. www.rolclub.com

One well put together letter with 100' of thousand signatures
that you sign directly on line.

Finally we are fighting back all enemies that want put us down.

Pips will prevail with success.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Hawk, how did you find out about the petition? I'm assuming that it was thru ROIClub right?

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by Hardlyworkin

Hawk, how did you find out about the petition? I'm assuming that it was thru ROIClub right?

Yes, I am member on both Forums. Rolclub and Auspips

They joined venture and organize one petition that will be signed on line with electronic signature. (Very neat)
I also noticed several other Pips support Forums having posted link of petition for their members.

This is one way to show Bryan and BNM that are many more members with support than , those that started complaint.

It is very good collective gesture from supporting point.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

hawk let's hope that the petition doesn't do more harm than good. I don't think that the petition is going to have much of an impact with BNM on the outcome of the investigaion but will show Bryan that the members support him.

Posted by: Wondering

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Originally Posted by Hardlyworkin

hawk let's hope that the petition doesn't do more harm than good. I don't think that the petition is going to have much of an impact with BNM on the outcome of the investigation but will show Bryan that the members support him.

I don't understand how people continue to still support Bryan Marsden.

The facts don't support it. He didn't pay as promised for 8 months. He was obviously spending money on Bistros, fashion , new restaurants, etc and not paying his lenders. He didn't even communicate with members in any meaningful way. He lied about many things. It's doubtful that there's much money when there is supposed to be BILLIONS. It was over $3 BILLION owed to PIPS members before they took the total off the web site. This number doesn't include what was trapped in PICPAY. I know I had more than 2K in withdrawals trapped there myself. I also had 2 K of purchases canceled by Bryan. I wanted the products/services and PicPay wouldn't or couldn't pay for them. Why- NO MONEY?

So Why is there a petition to support BRYAN MARSDEN? He hasn't supported you as far as I can see.

I guess people are just gluttons for abuse!

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by Wondering

First let me answer your nuisance question. I see you do not understand.

If you are PIPS member, or if you want be part of PIPS business, or if you want to get paid ( we will ) than you want to help and support.
Otherwise your opinion is irrelevant to this situation.

Reason why we did not get paid for 9 months is old info that you should follow from beginning, and if you do not know than I suggest that you read past posts and get some knowledge first. I can't give you explanation about facts at this stage since you are way behind of true happenings.

People most time criticize PIPS because of ignorance and getting wrong information from wrong people.
I do respect everybody opinion but those opinions has to have a good points.

PIPS is legit business and it will be proved that, and now is just matter of time.

If Bryan had any bad intentions he would not stick around to face any questions.
Bad scam business run for short time and despair without a trace.

Bryan is good man that wants to help a little guy and he will bring PIPS back one way or the other (reconstructed). You can believe it or not but this is a fact.

I home you have a common sense and be patience for a little longer like most of us.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I have said this previously, Bryan has been too visibile and well known to vanish without a trace. Getting paid may not be the issue though it may be how soon since many cannot wait that long for their withdrawls although they really have no choice than to wait for the investigation to conclude and hopefully the program restructured.

Posted by: Wondering

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Originally Posted by Hardlyworkin

I have said this previously, Bryan has been too visibile and well known to vanish without a trace. Getting paid may not be the issue though it may be how soon since many cannot wait that long for their withdrawls although they really have no choice than to wait for the investigation to conclude and hopefully the program restructured.

After 8-9 months you really think he was going to pay you! When this investigation is over you'll find that there isn't any money or if there is it's a very small fraction of what is owed his lenders. What will you think then?

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I don't dispute that Wondering. No one knows what money may be left or where it may be if there is any. I don't think anyone believes that they will get any big amounts of money back. Most just want the saga to end one way or another so that they can move on.

Posted by: Wondering

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Originally Posted by Hardlyworkin

I don't dispute that Wondering. No one knows what money may be left or where it may be if there is any. I don't think anyone believes that they will get any big amounts of money back. Most just want the saga to end one way or another so that they can move on.

Hopefully It ends with Bryan Marsden going to jail for committing a massive fraud. He's ruined the personal finances of many many people that believed that he was really investing their money for extraordinary returns.

Please don't give me the line Don't invest what you can't afford to lose. It wasn't a race track. It was an investemt. Who invests money so that they can lose it? People invest to make more money after weighing the risks.

Mr Marsden assured on video many times that it was easy and that PIPS made much more than the members on the investments.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

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Originally Posted by Wondering

Hopefully It ends with Bryan Marsden going to jail for committing a massive fraud. He's ruined the person finances of many many people that believed that he was really investing their money for extraordinary returns.

Please don't give me the line Don't invest what you can't afford to lose. It wasn't a race track. It was an investemt. Who invests money so that they can lose it? People invest to make more money after weighing the risks.

Mr Marsden assured on video many times that it was easy and that PIPS made much more than the members on the investments.

I don't disagree with you at all. No one invests money so they can loose it otherwise why not just throw it out the window. We do have to wait until the end of the investigation to really be told the truth though.

Posted by: hawk

You like it or not but PIPS will be back and even stronger.
It is very bad statement that Bryan ruin members financial life. Why we not first look true Bryan intentions. He was traveling all over the world and met with many members. If he was such bad guy, as some think, than he would be gone long time ago. His actions are clear and he did nothing illegal, so he is working with full co-operation with bank. If anything find incorrect it will be corrected and fixed.

One who met him would tell you how great person he is. He is fighting to help little guy and he will succeed in that.

Only time will tell and that is when BNM is done with its work. Right now we can only wait and hope that things end up soon.

I invested a lot of money but that money was not money I need for living and to feed kids. Why should I blame Bryan for anything, when we know who mess it up and cause this delay. One of them are people that he trusted the most plus merchants that initiated whole process.

I agree that Picpay was not handled properly and was such chaos with some merchants taking advantage and operating in fraud matter. When Bryan realize activity he ordered to stop activity till things are to be cleared.
Since nobody wanted to wait, big wave of complaints started and that is how we stand today.

Get some proper information before we start speculating and accusing anything. Use common sense. We are all in same boat going through some ruff waters, so why rock it even more. Lets wait till we get to come down situation and sail in harmony to success.

Posted by: Wondering

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Originally Posted by hawk

You like it or not but PIPS will be back and even stronger.
It is very bad statement that Bryan ruin members financial life. Why we not first look true Bryan intentions. He was traveling all over the world and met with many members. If he was such bad guy, as some think, than he would be gone long time ago. His actions are clear and he did nothing illegal, so he is working with full co-operation with bank. If anything find incorrect it will be corrected and fixed.

They were nice vacations and fund raisers. Plus he was video taped and all his lies are on record.

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One who met him would tell you how great person he is. He is fighting to help little guy and he will succeed in that.

I didn't think Bryan was that little.

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Only time will tell and that is when BNM is done with its work. Right now we can only wait and hope that things end up soon.

I invested a lot of money but that money was not money I need for living and to feed kids. Why should I blame Bryan for anything, when we know who mess it up and cause this delay. One of them are people that he trusted the most plus merchants that initiated whole process.

I'm sorry to hear that you got scammed big time. Why wouldn't you blame a thief that committed fraud against you?

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I agree that Picpay was not handled properly and was such chaos with some merchants taking advantage and operating in fraud matter. When Bryan realize activity he ordered to stop activity till things are to be cleared.
Since nobody wanted to wait, big wave of complaints started and that is how we stand today.

Get some proper information before we start speculating and accusing anything. Use common sense. We are all in same boat going through some ruff waters, so why rock it even more. Lets wait till we get to come down situation and sail in harmony to success.

You don't get it. The restructuring of PIPS means wiping out $BILLIONS$ in member accounts so that it can pay people. The bigger question is how is Bryan going to do this from jail? Fraud gets you jail time and I certainly hope he gets a lot of it. Bryan Marsden ruined many people financially by not producing the agreed upon returns and defrauding people of their investments. There are thousands of PIPS members that haven't received a penny from PIPS. Me included!

Posted by: hawk

I am sorry that you feel that way. I guess I can't help you understand real facts, because you are brainwashed from TG forum talking like you do. With your way of thinking can not help you be in peace. May be this type of business is not for you and you should turn your interest to something else.

Your logic and mine are not on same level, so for me is useless to give you any points of facts.

Finally, Bryan is not a crook, he did not lie ( he will finish his task), PIPS is not found illegal and will not be. I did not lost one penny and will be getting a lot more when time is right. I do have a strong confidence.

Since you do not have a patience to see results, you are just beating your head in brick wall which will take you nowhere.

I am done answering to you.

Anyway thanks for sharing your opinions.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Let's just hope that we all do not just have bilind faith in the Pips coming back. I remember for months all of the FLO supporters say just wait, "X" will be back soon and we all know what happened there.

Posted by: value4money

This petition along with fundraising activities is all part of the RolClub/PIPS scam.

PIPS is dead, folks, gone, get used to it.

hawk is one of the RolClub puppets.

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by value4money

This petition along with fundraising activities is all part of the RolClub/PIPS scam.

PIPS is dead, folks, gone, get used to it.

hawk is one of the RolClub puppets.

I am for sure glad not be part of TG Forum loosers as you are.

You are not even PIPS member so why you care in first place.

Posted by: value4money

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Originally Posted by hawk

I am for sure glad not be part of TG Forum loosers as you are.

You are not even PIPS member so why you care in first place.

Really? You seem to know a lot about me. If someone doesn`t agree with you then all you can do is lash out and say they have to come from TG. Even more weird is that you assume to know whether I have funds with PIPS or not.

Come up with FACTS, not speculation, and you may come across as more credible.

ps, if PIPS doesn`t pay out then there`ll be a lot of `loosers` (correct word is losers BTW) including the Rolclub bunch.