October update by Bryan

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October update by Bryan
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Posted by: hawk

He is commenting on people that are speculating and posting too much without proper information.

He is letting us know that in few weeks, good things are to come.

So, please everybody come down and show some patience. Light of end of tunnel is coming.

It is no use to listen unreliable sources and get confused until is all properly given to you officially.

I can't put whole post without fourm Admin. permission.

Posted by: forwardone

Let`s flesh out the bones then.

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Oct-26
Just a Comment

Reading some of the threads and posts here, it is starting to look a little like some of the other forums with accusations, speculation, supposition and the like.

The truth is that none of this gets anyone anywhere and certainly does not enhance the forum or the situation.

I do not comment or condone actions of others.

All I can say is that we are a few weeks away from something really good.

Keep it all positive and as is often quoted Post by BM on Rolclub Oct-26
Just a Comment

Reading some of the threads and posts here, it is starting to look a little like some of the other forums with accusations, speculation, supposition and the like.

The truth is that none of this gets anyone anywhere and certainly does not enhance the forum or the situation.

I do not comment or condone actions of others.

All I can say is that we are a few weeks away from something really good.

Keep it all positive and as is often quoted 'Íf you cannot say something good about a person then don't say anything at all.'

Judgement is with the Lord.

Bryan

Love his sense of humour.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

"All I can say is that we are a few weeks away from something really good." What's he going to do start another program? Don't think I'd join if he did.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I just read in the forum that there was another response to a question in the ROI Club forum by Bryan saying that the restructuring in only weeks away.

Posted by: Motters

why does he even bother ? Given all the bad press and the false hopes surely nobody s going to be daft enough to put more money his way ?

P.

Posted by: Luxor

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All I can say is that we are a few weeks away from something really good.

Where did I hear that before? Oh yeah, from Bryan 7 months ago!

+++LUXOR+++

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

That seems to be the standard statement now.

Posted by: forwardone

Yet ANOTHER `wait a bit longer` statement from Bryan at RolClub.

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If It Ain't From Me !!!!!!!! Just to stop the speculation, sorry for not posting before, just wanted to see how far the BS goes.

THERE WAS NO COURT CASE YESTERDAY!

We were hoping to have something up by the end of the month, but the programming is taking a little longer than expected so look forward to sometime in December.

Bryan

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Starting to sound like a broken record playing over and over again.

Posted by: golddust

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Starting to sound like a broken record playing over and over again.

Seems to be a common denominator with others e.g. IT4US....

golddust

Posted by: hawk

It is so funny that only Moderators and Administrator are commenting on issues.

Where are others? May be are easily suppressed if they say anything positive.

Just observing

Posted by: forwardone

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Originally Posted by hawk

It is so funny that only Moderators and Administrator are commenting on issues.

Where are others? May be are easily suppressed if they say anything positive.

Just observing

hawk, if you check back over any of the PIPS threads I seriously doubt you`ll find anyone who has posted positively about the program/situation, has been shouted down by other members. Unlike some other forums we entertain all points of views, in fact we welcome them, as long as there are no personal attacks.

Posted by: islandguy100K

PIPs members are going to have the last say,because we know for sure that PIPs is coming back. Just wait and watch.

Bryan has not been arrested, as many have said.What does this tell you?

Action speaks louder than words. If you did not join PIPs early on, then you missed the boat,period.

You were too busy talking and listening to rumours instead of doing your own DD. Do you think Bryan would have met all the Members at Malaysia and Hawaii convention, then to scam them?

Scam artist do not show their picture or meet members in person then try to steal your money, that is suicide for them to show face, then scam people. But then you knew that-right?

How many HYIP admin show real picture or meet and shake peoples hand in person? Big-fat- ZERO.

Posted by: value4money

islandguy100K, you sound very inexperienced when it comes to HYIPs.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

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Originally Posted by value4money

islandguy100K, you sound very inexperienced when it comes to HYIPs.

He is just voiceing his own opinion, if you look around you will find plenty of different ones here on this forum as well as other forums, some positive some negative and some neutral right now.

Posted by: islandguy100K

Okay Value4money name your HYIP where Admin show real personal photos and meet members in person?

Besides GINS, because I have seen Dr. Tan and Peter Burton's picture at the launch and by the way Dr Tan will be exonerated soon!

Why does Midas at RealityMillions not meet all the members in person?

What about Xavier, of Freeland Opps? No photo,no convention,no money?

What about Thomas Louden of Nova-lights, no photo,no convention, no more money?

Do you see the trend here?
No photo,no convention equals no money for payout. Why? because they ran with it!
No woman,no cry, remember the song? smiles

Posted by: value4money

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What about Thomas Louden of Nova-lights, no photo,no convention, no more money?

Do you see the trend here?
No photo,no convention equals no money for payout. Why? because they ran with it!

Well, not wishing to be pedantic here, but Louden was in fact seen by members of the HYIP community. Admittedly it was close to end, but still. In fact, didn`t another of the all-time great scammers, Mario, get to visit him?

Have you considered that maybe Bryan`s openness might well be part of the `master plan` to get the confidence (and money) of the members?

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PIPs members are going to have the last say,because we know for sure that PIPs is coming back. Just wait and watch.

How do you KNOW for sure? I see a few PIPSters posting as though they are `in the know` with some privileged information unavailable to the masses.

Sorry, me no believe.

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by value4money

How do you KNOW for sure? I see a few PIPSters posting as though they are `in the know` with some privileged information unavailable to the masses.

Sorry, me no believe.

You have right not to belive, but I do not understand what's making you not to believe.

It is true that everything is frozen for a moment till is all cleared, but that is not proof that PIPS or Bryan is guilty of anything. If was system would be closed long ago.

I will have a wonderful 2006 but I do not know about you.

Posted by: golddust

Good posts to all involved. Some scammers make it a point to be seen and recognized, some take the opposite direction and build a mystery persona. Either way, I have yet to see a big program with a well known admin come back from the depths, i.e. NL, FLO, Foreign Fund, EZ Bucks, recent announcement this week from IT4US, and now PIPs.

I would be surprised to see a reprise from PIPs, just based on history, observation and current situation.

I will have a happy 2006 and sleep well at night, regardless.

golddust

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

golddust the programs you mentioned did have well know admin, Martin, X etc but no one ever met or saw them, they could have been teenagers for all we knew lol. The one thing about Bryan is that he had met face to face with people and held meeting around the world. It will be pretty difficult for him to run away and hide even if he gets out of all the trouble he seems to be in.

Posted by: forwardone

Well, not quite......... as someone else has already pointed out Louden of NL has been seen, and one of the Admins of Foreign Fund has, (can`t remember his name but there`s a thread about it somewhere here). I think he does some work for a church group somewhere now. I also think I`m right in saying that the boss of It4us has been in the HYIP public eye. Mario Degryse has certainly been seen by some in the HYIP community too.

Court cases are pending or have been finalised with at least 2 of the above, including Louden, so they were actually caught.

My view is that Bryan possibly got overtaken by events, and he`s living in cloud cuckoo land now. He`s convinced himself that he`s invincible, and there`s no way back for him. It`s almost irrelevant whether or not the Bank who`s carrying out the investigations into PIPS finds it a fraud or not. The chances are there`s not enough money anyway to pay every member out, it just seems impossible. If he didn`t get overtaken by events then he set the scam up from day one, equally likely.

Alternatively of course there IS money, which Bryan`s stashed away somewhere, and after he`s served his punishment if he`s taken to court and found guilty, he`ll then collect his stolen money and live `happily ever after.` In any event, I can`t possibly see how any member will recover their monies at the rates of, what was it, 2% per day since he stopped paying.

Posted by: golddust

Exactly what I mean by the "depths":

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after he`s served his punishment if he`s taken to court and found guilty, he`ll then collect his stolen money and live `happily ever after.` In any event, I can`t possibly see how any member will recover their monies at the rates of, what was it, 2% per day since he stopped paying.

Those admins mentioned whether found and formally charged or not, left behind investors owed lots of money. It will never be recovered.

golddust

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by forwardone

Well, not quite......... as someone else has already pointed out Louden of NL has been seen, and one of the Admins of Foreign Fund has, (can`t remember his name but there`s a thread about it somewhere here). I think he does some work for a church group somewhere now. I also think I`m right in saying that the boss of It4us has been in the HYIP public eye. Mario Degryse has certainly been seen by some in the HYIP community too.

Court cases are pending or have been finalised with at least 2 of the above, including Louden, so they were actually caught.

My view is that Bryan possibly got overtaken by events, and he`s living in cloud cuckoo land now. He`s convinced himself that he`s invincible, and there`s no way back for him. It`s almost irrelevant whether or not the Bank who`s carrying out the investigations into PIPS finds it a fraud or not. The chances are there`s not enough money anyway to pay every member out, it just seems impossible. If he didn`t get overtaken by events then he set the scam up from day one, equally likely.

Alternatively of course there IS money, which Bryan`s stashed away somewhere, and after he`s served his punishment if he`s taken to court and found guilty, he`ll then collect his stolen money and live `happily ever after.` In any event, I can`t possibly see how any member will recover their monies at the rates of, what was it, 2% per day since he stopped paying.

Were you get your information? You are just speculating without any proof.
This is why people that reading forums get confused by whole situation of PIPS, because post like yours do not have any true backup of real situation.

Just remember and remember good, PIPS was not and will an be found guilty of anything. If did it would be shout down long time ago.

I am talking from point of intelligent analogy and way things are developing.

If you do not believe me than just wait a little while till is all cleared and announced.

When they announce PIPS is closed than you can elaborate, but not until then.

You have right to state your opinion, but must be expressed as own opinion not suggestion of real event. You should now better.

Posted by: islandguy100K

Forwardone,

Those Admin that you said met members have only met a few members each and there is NO proof of it.
Where's the photos of the meet and the Admin photo??

Marsden has met thousands of members in two seperate PIPs conventions that are documented with proof from DVD recordings and many photos.

The point is, he is not going to meet all these people and show his face to thousands,then try to cheat them. Do you think he is stupid? And to put his wife in this position too?

Lets not compare apples with watermelons, please.

Posted by: golddust

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Just remember and remember good, PIPS was not and will an be found guilty of anything. If did it would be shout down long time ago.

I am talking from point of intelligent analogy and way things are developing.

If you do not believe me than just wait a little while till is all cleared and announced.

When they announce PIPS is closed than you can elaborate, but not until then.

So.... when they announce PIPS is closed, you think you will get what you are owed?

And you think that people can not "elaborate" until then?

Excuse me, but this is Earth. What planet are you from?

golddust

Posted by: forwardone

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Originally Posted by hawk

hawk, I`m making allowances for the fact that clearly English isn`t your first language here. If you re-read what was posted you`ll see the expressions - `My view is` `The chances are` `can`t possibly see` which in my language leave room for doubts.

The strange thing is that you try to stifle anyone who thinks PPS is dead, yet you are stating as FACTS that "PIPS was not and will an be found guilty of anything," "wait a little while till is all cleared and announced."

Now what YOU have done is said what WILL or WON`t happen, not what you THINK will, not your OPINION.

What you accuse me of you in fact are guilty of.

Posted by: forwardone

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Originally Posted by islandguy100K

Forwardone,

Those Admin that you said met members have only met a few members each and there is NO proof of it.
Where's the photos of the meet and the Admin photo??

Marsden has met thousands of members in two seperate PIPs conventions that are documented with proof from DVD recordings and many photos.

The point is, he is not going to meet all these people and show his face to thousands,then try to cheat them. Do you think he is stupid? And to put his wife in this position too?

Lets not compare apples with watermelons, please.

Sorry island100K, but if you are clinging on to the hope that because Marsden has sought publicity that then is proof he`s not a scammer then I fear you`ll be disappointed.

As for whether he`s stupid I think time will draw it`s own conclusion.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

No one really know what is in Bryan's mind. Wether he is a man of integrety and honesty still remains a mystery.

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by forwardone

My "English" is not different then yours. If you can't understand what I try to say,well that is your default.

I ask you a simple "English" question; "Were did you get your information?"

I would like to know back up of your speculation.

I also repeat, If ever PIPS is declared dead business, so well be it and we will proceed with our lives. We can only blame certain members for it, since everything was going well until few merchants start complains.

It is foolish and incompetence to blame Bryan for payment delays, if you would know real situation and how things develop to this stage..

Posted by: DontBefooled

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Originally Posted by hawk

hawk, whether or not English is your mother tongue is irrelevant, your knowledge of the language is not so good. Anyone who speaks correct English can see that from your reply above!

Why do you PIPsters always try to put the blame on others? It isn`t Bryan`s fault - `It`s the members` fault` `It`s the merchants fault` `It`s the banks fault.` `It`s everyone`s fault but Marsden`s.`

NO!! Bryan runs the program, so the buck firmly stops with HIM, and no-one else. WHY were members complaining do you think? If they were getting paid what they were owed they wouldn`t have any need to have complained. Bryan and those running the `business` must accept responsibility for what`s gone wrong, so stop trying to defend the indefensible.

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

DontBefooled very well put, welcome to our forum by the way.

Posted by: golddust

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Bryan and those running the `business` must accept responsibility for what`s gone wrong, so stop trying to defend the indefensible.

Exactly. Any part of the running the business - contact with/paying members, the merchants, the banks, these are all in the scope of Bryan's JOB. No one to 'blame', but him.

golddust

Posted by: betrdanevr

I think anytime a program gets as big as PIPS did, it's headed for the skids, anyway.

Management has to expand big-time in order to keep up with the challenges in even dealing with glitches in members' accounts.

Then you have the payment processor problems that seem to hit every blasted time that payouts become substantial . . .

As well as the basic questions involved of, Can this program even support this massive growth of expected profit?

As far as if anyone's seen or met the admins and if it's a sure-fire indication of legitimacy, ask all the churchgoers who got fleeced by Clyde Hood with Omega Trust!

Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I agree betrdanevr the more visibility a program gets the more likely it is that it will meet with trouble soon.

Posted by: poldo

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Originally Posted by islandguy100K

How many HYIP admin show real picture or meet and shake peoples hand in person? Big-fat- ZERO.

Actually at udachu, members meet somewhat regularly with the administrators
we've seen pictures of some of the propersites owned by the club and some even in person in fact one of the members is also the udachu real estate
agent, he became a member after selling a property to the administrator for the club. I don't know PIPS but I know udachu's funds are in pretty safe
investments

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by golddust

Exactly. Any part of the running the business - contact with/paying members, the merchants, the banks, these are all in the scope of Bryan's JOB. No one to 'blame', but him.

golddust

You are totally wrong. Your ignorance about situation is way out limits.

Get you act together and read before posting nonsense.

Posted by: value4money

hawk, while there are people like you who are only too willing to trust people like Marsden we will always have scammers around.

How can you be so naive not to even accept that if he`s the boss then he carries the can ultimately? PIPS should be no different to any other organization, but clearly you think it doesn`t have the same obligations towards it`s workers and members.

Wake up to the facts.

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by value4money

hawk, while there are people like you who are only too willing to trust people like Marsden we will always have scammers around.

How can you be so naive not to even accept that if he`s the boss then he carries the can ultimately? PIPS should be no different to any other organization, but clearly you think it doesn`t have the same obligations towards it`s workers and members.

Wake up to the facts.

I am sorry but you need to wake up and see real facts. Please do not compare PIPS with HYIP programs. It does not have any reflections and comparison.

Bryan indeed is very caring for members and his workers, otherwise he would be long gone with heavy pockets. Think about it, if you have a common sense.

Present situation is not in his control, so why you are blame him for leadership.

He will re-group everything and after is all cleared from BNM, things will be even better and more secure than before.

It is up to you to believe or not but that is what will happen. Just wait and I hope you will acknowledge your wrong thinking when it does happen. I will keep eye on you future posts.

Quote: "Ignorance is weak side of healthy mind"

Posted by: The Lone Ranger

The Lone Ranger rides again!

Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger

The Lone Ranger rides again!

Welcome to Forum

Posted by: awty

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Originally Posted by Hardlyworkin

Wether he is a man of integrety and honesty still remains a mystery.

Actually, that appears to be quite obvious, at least to me.
Jeff

Posted by: golddust

And in the midst of this, the "Lone Ranger" makes post #1..

Whoo-ooooo.....

golddust

Posted by: value4money

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Originally Posted by hawk

He is commenting on people that are speculating and posting too much without proper information.

He is letting us know that in few weeks, good things are to come.

So, please everybody come down and show some patience. Light of end of tunnel is coming.

It is no use to listen unreliable sources and get confused until is all properly given to you officially.

I can't put whole post without fourm Admin. permission.

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He is letting us know that in few weeks, good things are to come.

Really? You posted this back in October, hawk, did you mean weeks, or months?