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Posted by: admin

http://www.brideby.com/

I just rec. the following e-mail about a DD investigation into http://www.brideby.com/

Any comments or thoughts on Brideby.com

Quote:
Hello,

The information about brideby.com I have compiled was unjustly neglected by some of the DDUCs, including such known and respected one as e-told.org. Unable to leave such vivid case of scam unnoticed I have decided to make it public.

Please visit my site for futher details: http://rmntechnologies.com/brideby

You will find facts showing that brideby.com is a scam.

Stop scammers

Kind of regards,
Brian




Posted by: lexicon21

Interesting ... altruism comes at the low price of ... wait for it .... $0.50 to read the "report". If we all start charging for our "info" we can all get rich quicker!!!! I wonder if that comes with a set of steak knives!!



Posted by: memorex

Okay I have done a quick check on BRideby.com and my results are that the website has been redesigned because it seemingly had been stolen from some fashion web page previous. :-({|=
They have stated this on their home page extracts below:
Quote:
12 August 2003]
We changed graphic design for our project because it appeared that the previous version bought from one design-studio was stolen by them. Hope you will like the new one. :-$

Although the admin & organisation address address states USA admin@brideby.com
The phone number is matched up with the austrian counterpart Mr Alex Murphy below. 8-[ I havent tried the USA Number that Brian found as it is not on the whois now ) and they are only allowing questions through the Austrian Number by a Mr Alex Murphy . ](*,)
The name server is based in Russia according to the whois and has been in operation since Oct 2002 and expires on
Oct 2003 , :-k I have posted their whois below as well.
The third weird thing that is visible , could be a mistake of wording is this ( BRideby.com )which is on the website
Welcome to BRideby.com Elite HYIP

and the Russian counterpart of the brides agency is
Copyright © 2001, 2002( BrideBy).com Notice the difference in wording
I am not saying that this is the difference. but it is a possibility as and when people register they find that the name they require has been taken and they use a different variation to register there domain )
But I havent finished yet if you go to BrideBy.com from the google search it comes up with the russian BrideBy.com marriage agency. Then click on home and it will return you to!! yep you guessed it :
Welcome to BRideby.com Elite HYIP ???
I have written to there admin asking if they would like to share there DD and this is their answer to first instance of my asking for Information:
Quote:
<root@brideby.com>
Subject: RE: Support requset.
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1

Hi

We are always ready to answer your questions,
you are welcome.
What information are you interested in?

Thanks!
Sincerely,
The eliteHYIP Team
http://www.brideby.com


So these are the questions :
[quote[----- Original Message -----
From: To:
root@brideby.com
Sent: 18 August, 2003 11:17 PM
Subject: From Memorex hphyip forum


These are a few of the questions that I feel we need to ask regarding your validity If you can please answer all of the questions below and we will then get back to you regarding any future investment after we have verified the information :

Do you have a contact Phone number Land Line preferred?

Can you send a copy of A utility bill so we can actually see you
are operating From a bonafide Address


We would also like to write to this address to confirm you are receiving mail from This address as well.

A recent copy of a Drivers License or Passport

I see by looking at the website it seems that you are a pool by this we mean you invest in a lot of different programs to attain you level of interest is this correct
if not how do you

Do you have backup funding in case of emergency
situations if so Can you send proof of funds

Can you a supply any copies of payments to date

Do you have an insurance in place on spends, which can be purchased through the program

I thank you for your time and wish you every success in the future.
regards
memorex
[/quote]

And this was their second answer:

Quote:
Hi, memorex

Sorry, but our club exists only virtually, and that is why we do not have and
we cannot have any real legal address. We don't have an office,
because we are internet-company. We have both off-line and on-line funds,
so each is backup for other. We will not divulge our commercial know-hows, so
there will be no any comments about our inner structure, sorry we are AN internet-company

If you want, you can call too our Austrian partner (Mr. Alex Murphy)
by phone +43-6766-971766. (English language only).

Thank you!
Sincerely,
The eliteHYIP Team
http://www.brideby.com

So as you can see they say one thing and then do another in respect of offering DD Now My biggest concern is, this return to the Hyip program, from the Home link on the Brides agency.
From the google search , as this should not happen at all and the only reason this may be is because they have copied a website or the bride agency has copied a website whatever one of them has forgotten to omit this link which is definitely a strange situation and I feel that they may be one of the same. =; This is really a big danger sign and there are too many red flags in my opinion .
Plus everything taken into consideration , you can only contact this one person in Austria. If anything that goes wrong especially in the early stages when trying to recoup your initial capital. This would give you no recourse to find out what happened as they could just shut down the operation and disappear. [-X
Well thats it for now.
regards
memorex

quote]
Checking server [whois.crsnic.net]
Checking server [whois.melbourneit.com]
Results:

Domain Name.......... brideby.com
Creation Date........ 2002-10-11
Registration Date.... 2002-10-11
Expiry Date.......... 2005-10-11
Organisation Name.... MakeTheWeb Inc.
Organisation Address. n/a n/a n/a n/a
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. n/a
Organisation Address. n/a
Organisation Address. n/a
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES

Admin Name........... Sarah Connor
Admin Address........ n/a n/a n/a n/a
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ n/a
Admin Address........ n/a
Admin Address........ n/a
Admin Address........ UNITED STATES
Admin Email.......... admin@brideby.com
Admin Phone.......... +43.6766971766
Admin Fax............

Tech Name............ Sarah Connor
Tech Address......... n/a n/a n/a n/a
Tech Address.........
Tech Address......... n/a
Tech Address......... n/a
Tech Address......... n/a
Tech Address......... UNITED STATES
Tech Email........... admin@brideby.com
Tech Phone........... +43.6766971766
Tech Fax.............
Name Server.......... NS1A.SITOHOST.COM
Name Server.......... NS1B.SITOHOST.COM
[/quote]
But the Nameserver whois :
Quote:
Registrant:
Andrew Groshev
n/a
Moscow n/a
Russian Federation

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: SITOHOST.COM
Created on: 29-Oct-02
Expires on: 29-Oct-03
Last Updated on: 12-Aug-03

Administrative Contact:
Groshev, Andrew admin@sitohost.com
n/a
Moscow n/a
Russian Federation
(795) 935-7823 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Groshev, Andrew admin@sitohost.com
n/a
Moscow n/a
Russian Federation
(795) 935-7823 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1A.SITOHOST.COM
NS1B.SITOHOST.COM


alena-marriage-agency.com

Registrant:
Kozlov, Andrew (ALENAMARRIAGEAGENCY-DOM)
p.o. box 2184
Syktyvkar, Komi 167005
RU

Domain Name: ALENA-MARRIAGE-AGENCY.COM

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Kozlov, Andrew (AK12113) ceo@all-dating-online.com
p.o. box 2184
Syktyvkar, Komi 167005
RU
+7-8212-262593 fax: +7-8212-262593

Record expires on 01-Jun-2005.
Record created on 01-Jun-2001.
Database last updated on 18-Aug-2003 07:46:11 EDT.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS.WESTHOST.NET 209.204.249.248
NS2.WESTHOST.NET 209.204.250.200



Posted by: neo

Hi memorex,

I hope this helps in some way.

DNS servers do not worry about the case. So BRideby.com is the same as BrideBy.com which is the same as brideby.com

What happen with the search engine and refreshing was simply DNS lookup by your computer that caused the hyip page to come up. What must have happened is that the search engine must have had the ip address stored for the russian site (or did the DNS lookup for you) and so took you to the russian site. Then when you went to the "home" page or refreshed, your IE did a DNS lookup and took you to the hyip web page.

Now as far as two web sites having the same domain name is another problem. There could be a doubling up of the name caused by melbourneit not recognising the entry made by the Russian registrar.

This would then mean that through the world, there would be DNS servers pointing to one site and other DNS servers pointing to the other site. Of course this is a major headache and can happen.

I remember about 2+ years ago, a crowd decided to scam people into buying domain names. The scam went like this, they uploaded into the DNS server chain hundreds of Australian place names.au . And whenever you did type www.marybourgh.com.au, or other place/city, it would come up with a web page saying this domain name was for sale. It worked for many hundreds of place/city names in Australia.

Of course at that time it was against the Australian domain name rules to do that, and I did double check with the Australian registrar. Of course in about 3 days the names dropped off as the DNS servers flushed the incorrect entries.

Now in the case of www.brideby.com , it is a little more complex in that we have the Russian registrar claiming the name for the Russian company, and another registrar claiming the name for the hyip site, so this will not be resolved soon.

Now as to why Google saw the russian site is simple, they scan the net by ip address as well, so they picked up the russian site as part of their ip address scan.

Hope this sheds some light on the domain name issue.

Neo



Posted by: memorex

Quote:
Originally Posted by neo
Hi memorex,

I hope this helps in some way.

DNS servers do not worry about the case. So BRideby.com is the same as BrideBy.com which is the same as brideby.com


I was under the same understanding what baffled me was the wording and also the links on the russian page some went to the HYIP Page and others were error 404's
Quote:
What happen with the search engine and refreshing was simply DNS lookup by your computer that caused the hyip page to come up. What must have happened is that the search engine must have had the ip address stored for the russian site (or did the DNS lookup for you) and so took you to the russian site. Then when you went to the "home" page or refreshed, your IE did a DNS lookup and took you to the hyip web page.


Well what actually happened was I hadnt accessed the HYIP page, I was looking at the russian page from the lookup and it was open in the pricing page .
So I thought I would hit the home link to see if it was the same design as the HYIP and it took me straight to the HYIP home page and not the home page of of the russian bride agency.??
Quote:
Now as far as two web sites having the same domain name is another problem. There could be a doubling up of the name caused by melbourneit not recognising the entry made by the Russian registrar.

Also the Russian website was in english so I think that the melbourneit webcrawler/spider would have picked this up wouldnt it, I dont really know but it seems logical to me that it would be looking for english highlights yes it has to be what happened .
Quote:
This would then mean that through the world, there would be DNS servers pointing to one site and other DNS servers pointing to the other site. Of course this is a major headache and can happen.

I remember about 2+ years ago, a crowd decided to scam people into buying domain names. The scam went like this, they uploaded into the DNS server chain hundreds of Australian place names.au . And whenever you did type www.marybourgh.com.au, or other place/city, it would come up with a web page saying this domain name was for sale. It worked for many hundreds of place/city names in Australia.

Of course at that time it was against the Australian domain name rules to do that, and I did double check with the Australian registrar. Of course in about 3 days the names dropped off as the DNS servers flushed the incorrect entries.

Now in the case of www.brideby.com , it is a little more complex in that we have the Russian registrar claiming the name for the Russian company, and another registrar claiming the name for the hyip site, so this will not be resolved soon.

No I have to agree with you on this it wont be resolved overnight
very strange indeed to say the least.
Quote:
Now as to why Google saw the russian site is simple, they scan the net by ip address as well, so they picked up the russian site as part of their ip address scan.

Hope this sheds some light on the domain name issue.
Neo


I am still wondering why the russian links only link in some cases to the HYIP and not the others, though I am sure it will come out in the wash.
regards
memorex



Posted by: neo

Quote:
Originally Posted by memorex
Well what actually happened was I hadnt accessed the HYIP page, I was looking at the russian page from the lookup and it was open in the pricing page .
So I thought I would hit the home link to see if it was the same design as the HYIP and it took me straight to the HYIP home page and not the home page of of the russian bride agency.??
memorex


What I was meaning was actually that the google search engine searches the web using ip addresses, so when you click on the link from google it sends you to the ip address - in other words its done the DNS lookup for that access. And thus you get the russian web site.

Then, sometimes, when you click on a link in the russian web site IE (really the tcp/ip protocol in your PC) decides it needs to do another DNS lookup. So then the DNS lookup from your ISP DNS gets the ip address for the hyip, so you are displayed the hyip website. Of course this could bring up a 404 error if there is not a page at that location on the hyip web site.

Does this make sense?



Posted by: neo

Hi,

Well I have just tried google again and I cannot get the russian site at all from the link. Only if I use the "cached" link, which is google's copy of the russian site's page. Also Google only has a couple of references to the russian site now, which would also point to google no longer accessing the russian site.

So it would seem the DNS filtering has already occured and both the optus network and google are no longer "seeing" the russian site.

Neo




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