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Which forum has the biggest group of PIPS supporters?

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Posted by: DontBefooled

I suppose it`s inevitable, but looking round the other forums it seems that some are far more pro or anti PIPS than others.

Out of interest let`s see which ones you consider to be the MOST Pro PIPS, in other words the place where most of them congregate to cheer on the PIPS scam. We are ignoring the bastion of PIPS, Rolclub of course.



Posted by: darcieP

hyipd has got the biggest flock of pips sheepies anywhere thats where the grazing pastures are. Most of them dont even realize they are cheerleading a program thats in a scam folder.



Posted by: forwardone

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Out of interest let`s see which ones you consider to be the MOST Pro PIPS


Somehow I don`t reckon it`s TG, The HYIPForum, nor here, so that only leaves 2, but I`d go along with HYIPd.

I should add though that I don`t think it`s down to a particularly positive stance taken by the admin or mods at HYIPd, in fact they, like most other places, have PIPS in a `scams` section. I just think it`s more down to a group of pipsters who feel that apart from rolclub they have some sort of spiritual home there in which they can flock together as one.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Forwardone I'd have to go with that too, also darcieP welcome to our forum,



Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by darcieP
hyipd has got the biggest flock of pips sheepies anywhere thats where the grazing pastures are. Most of them dont even realize they are cheerleading a program thats in a scam folder.


Keep your opinion for yourself unless you have soild proof to support your claim.



Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by forwardone
Somehow I don`t reckon it`s TG, The HYIPForum, nor here, so that only leaves 2, but I`d go along with HYIPd.

I should add though that I don`t think it`s down to a particularly positive stance taken by the admin or mods at HYIPd, in fact they, like most other places, have PIPS in a `scams` section. I just think it`s more down to a group of pipsters who feel that apart from rolclub they have some sort of spiritual home there in which they can flock together as one.


Even so Mods put it in scam section (*without proof), they are most honest and intelligent Mods of all forums that are agains PIPS. Least they are nutrual in their opinion.

I wonder what other Forums will say when PIPS come back soon.

We will see



Posted by: DontBefooled

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Originally Posted by hawk
Keep your opinion for yourself unless you have soild proof to support your claim.
hawk, you keep forgetting something - this isn`t rolclub where censorship rules.



Posted by: value4money

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Even so Mods put it in scam section (*without proof),
of course the fact PIPS hasn`t paid out for soooo long doesn`t mean it`s not legit, it`s just the unfortunate cicumstances they find themselves in.



Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by value4money
of course the fact PIPS hasn`t paid out for soooo long doesn`t mean it`s not legit, it`s just the unfortunate cicumstances they find themselves in.


So when PIPS come back, will they publicly apologize for promoting PIPS in wrong category? I doubt, they would not have guts.



Posted by: DontBefooled

I notice that one of the biggest of PIPSters, Style, who is always cheerleading at HYIPd and Rolclub, and putting down anyone who dares to criticize BM or PIPS, seems to be having a change of heart. Here`s a new post at Rolclub:-

http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?p=43394#post43394

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Why is it that every time ANYBODY asks a question they are a troll? HMMMM?
One post....or 1000 posts........what does it matter?

Call me a troll if you want 'krisark the great'......I dont give a rats tail.......ANYBODY on the face of this earth that has money in PIPS has a right to ask questions regarding PIPS. Does NOT matter if they have posted 1 time or 1000.
Hows this....I have posted A LOT on here............can I ask some questions? Doesnt matter they wont get answered! but any question regarding the 'new' Pipsaid will get answered.......why.........because it is generating "new" money..............it isnt about all of the money that has already been sent in..........that doesnt seem to matter anymore and no questions pertaining to that will be answered! Call me a troll if you want......but I think it is quite evident from my history here and Everywhere else on the forums......what people think of me doesnt make a damn to me!
I have been a faithful PIPS supporter for quite some time now and defended Bryan through all kinds of personal attacks (I have received so money emails calling me & my family all kinds of names and well, you can just imagine what they said) because I have defended Bryan so faithfully through all of this.........only to be misled. Well not anymore. I am still 100% Pro-Pips.........but I am not so "Pro-Bryan" right now and if people want to ask questions by damn they have the right to ask. Now come get me if you want to, but I wont run away like the others........I will stand face to face with you!




Posted by: value4money

Even at HYIPd some of the most ardent pips supporters are now raising their voices against the deletion of threads over at Rolclub. Marek and some of his crowd don`t like uncomfortable questions being posted that`s for sure.



Posted by: darcieP

I had to smile when a PIPS supporter at HYIPD actually suggested to Owen Platt that if he was to write his book talking positively about PIPs and the good PIPS can do for humanity then the fortunes of PIPS would somehow be substantially improved. In other words turn it into a piece of fiction!

Talk about cloud cuckoo land, it`ll take far more than a book to change things around for them. There`s just the small questions of the bank investigation, no computers, and probably no money.



Posted by: forwardone

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In other words turn it into a piece of fiction!

I`ll have to remember that one.

It looks like BM is getting sick of being asked questions. How could anything positive be written when this is still happening?
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This post is not mean't to be rude or offensive to people but it may finally get through to people what is going on with the process and why, so please read it as many seemed to ignore what I have posted previously and continue to make the statements over and over again.

1. Will PIPS be back.

The answer to this is YES in a restructured form.

2. When will PIPS be back.

This cannot be determined as this is still in the hands of BN to complete and return everything. When everything is returned, it will not be a case that PIPS will be back the next day, there will be an awful lot of work to do to rebuild the datacentre and get all the documents back in order.

3. Why is the Lotto coming up and not PIPS

There is a simple explanation to this, IT IS THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO AT THE MOMENT.

Pips Cannot come back until we get the ok from BN and get everything back.

The Lotto has always been a part of the group and it is not part of the investigation and is clear to start.

I hope that people will read this, understand it and stop repeatedly posting the same thing over and over again.

Bryan




Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by darcieP
I had to smile when a PIPS supporter at HYIPD actually suggested to Owen Platt that if he was to write his book talking positively about PIPs and the good PIPS can do for humanity then the fortunes of PIPS would somehow be substantially improved. In other words turn it into a piece of fiction!

Talk about cloud cuckoo land, it`ll take far more than a book to change things around for them. There`s just the small questions of the bank investigation, no computers, and probably no money.


I can see that you do not deserve any comments. You know why?

Because very old saying was " If touch SH** more, more stinks".

So keep laughing



Posted by: value4money

And I see once more hawk does his usual trick of speaking but having nothing to say.



Posted by: darcieP

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Originally Posted by hawk
I can see that you do not deserve any comments. You know why?

Because very old saying was " If touch SH** more, more stinks".

So keep laughing

And to hawk, `There`s none so blind as those who would not see.......`



http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=4997


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From srair71:

After reading this tread and others, I've come away with one underlaying theme here or lack thereof. That is communications from top to bottom has been a total failure. It's easy to see why people are angry and upset and idle mind is the devils workshop. In order to elimnate that we must commuicate at all levels. Sometimes the truth hurts but its still the truth. Information is the corner stone of any business no matter how small are large. Empires were conquered and civilizations destoryed for lack of infomation.

You have PIPS members who really over extended and are now in various financial troubles due to numerous factors. Its easy to see why they are upset and angry a misstake was made on there part. You can say it was common knowledge that this was a high risk venture. This still does not remove the responsible from PIPS in the handling of funds, investments and payments on a timely manner to members. Problems became apparent early on so why wasn't the issues addressed? If mangers where at fault why weren't they fired if there was fraud why weren't they jailed of course thru the normal due process of justices and the law.

What has happen to the program in my view could have been avoided, please understand this is just my opinion.

PIPS, provide a platform where everyone would have come out a winner, here again is another problem, we are well aware there are forces out there who will go to any lengths to keep the common person down in the trenches.

I'm well aware this may offend some, but this is communications. Even now I feel there is information that could be passed on to members you cannot and should not deprive anyone of this simple courtesy.

Thank You
One Of The Silent Members




Posted by: golddust

Two things you've said hawk that deserve comment:

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Keep your opinion for yourself unless you have soild proof to support your claim.


One:
Please differentiate between "opinion" and "fact".
"Opinions" do not require solid proof; opinions generally are personal assumptions and/or conclusions based on facts or actions that have basis.
"Facts" are things that are what they are such as, PIPs has not paid for over a year, or the sun rises every day, or pigs roll in mud - statements of truth, or reality.

Two:

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Because very old saying was " If touch SH** more, more stinks".


Could it be that you mean, "everyone's sh*t stinks, but mine?

... so keep on laughing...

golddust



Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by darcieP
And to hawk, `There`s none so blind as those who would not see.......`



http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=4997


First, I would consider a source. Second Every dumb person would figure out that if someone wants make critic comment would cut and paste post that fits their personality. Why don't you post some that say good and be fair.

That would be to good for you. Would be?

And you golddust, you got caught in HYIP arena,. so you narrow thinking that everybody that is doing business outside HYIP arena is bad.

When I post something I do with facts, and you guys speculate and making funny statements.

See problem I got with you guys ,that only repeated statement you have is no payment for months and you never ask yourself why and what was cause.
In you shallow thinking, first thing come up is scam. That is it. Very familiar topic in HYIP arena. Well my friend you need to look and feel outside of your box and realize that is not reality what you guys taught it is.

If any of you ever come up with any proof that you claim, I would be glad to listen. Believe me non of you have any, just hot air. Now that is solid FACT.



Posted by: golddust

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See problem I got with you guys ,that only repeated statement you have is no payment for months and you never ask yourself why and what was cause.
In you shallow thinking, first thing come up is scam. That is it. Very familiar topic in HYIP arena.



Usually, when there is no payment received from an HYIP, "SCAM" is the reality. There can be other reasons, and in general it does not take too long to conclude whatever the problems are and if payments will resume or not. True, very familiar topic in HYIP.... Sorry I missed the category of online money making oppportunity PIPs is.... I thought it was "HYIP".

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If any of you ever come up with any proof that you claim, I would be glad to listen. Believe me non of you have any, just hot air. Now that is solid FACT.


What "proof that you claim" are you talking about; I'd be glad to have you listen.

I admire your tenacity hawk, but your solid facts are just hot air too...

golddust



Posted by: hawk

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Originally Posted by golddust
Usually, when there is no payment received from an HYIP, "SCAM" is the reality. There can be other reasons, and in general it does not take too long to conclude whatever the problems are and if payments will resume or not. True, very familiar topic in HYIP.... Sorry I missed the category of online money making oppportunity PIPs is.... I thought it was "HYIP".



What "proof that you claim" are you talking about; I'd be glad to have you listen.

I admire your tenacity hawk, but your solid facts are just hot air too...

golddust


You very much wrong, golddust.

When company does not pay it usually is closed business, which happened in pass to many HYIP companies.

Pips is not HYIP company, put that in your head.
Second Pips was not closed for indefinite. Operation was stooped for pass few months due investigation, and since is coming back all its members will get paid what was due to them. So how this is consider "Scam". And if you understood what I just said and still think is "Scam" than I am sorry you got a problem with comprehending and learning ability disorder.

I can only converse with you intelligently if you proof to me that you follow situation with Pips from beginning as I did, otherwise we can't logically exchange anything worth a while.

So either come up with better statement or just forget about further discussions.

Owen and MrDome and few others lost ability to proof to me any of their statements. As matter of fact Mr. Owen even start thinking logically, I can tell by reading between his lines. All of you will faced answer what I am talking about.

Facts are facts and truth is truth, you can not twist it around.



Posted by: forwardone

hawk, there`s a whole forum here, why just limit yourself to discussing PIPS? There`s a lot more outside in this world than just one program.

I see the same thing in the TG forum you bitterly complain about, people get fixated with one particular program, one subject, one folder. I swear if TG closed the PIPS folder half the members wouldn`t know what to do with themselves.

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I can only converse with you intelligently if you proof to me that you follow situation with Pips from beginning as I did, otherwise we can't logically exchange anything worth a while.

It really doesn`t matter. Whether you`ve followed PIPS from the beginning or not is irrelevant, PIPS is GONE, accept it and move on.



Posted by: DontBefooled

Some people are just blind to the facts! Pipsters bury their heads in the sand. No-one posts good news in this folder because there ISN`T ANY. The Lotto is a smokescreen. The server issue is a smokescreen. How does anyone in his right mind imagine that Pips will be able to pay all the members out, PLUS interest from when they were last paid, at what- 2% A DAY?

Get real, it just can`t and won`t happen. Where is the money right now? What sort of rate is it earning? Even if they had the money put away somewhere safe in a bank (which is unlikely) they wouldn`t get anywhere near enough to pay their members out plus all back interest.



Posted by: hawk

Ignorance is product of no education. I guess that tells everything.



Posted by: darcieP

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Originally Posted by hawk
Ignorance is product of no education. I guess that tells everything.

Turning that around then are you saying that good education results in no ignorance?



Posted by: golddust

Small update:

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Hello

I send this update as many ask us, if BM's lotto has started or if there has been any new update on Pips.

The lotto has not started yeat. Looks like Murphy has done his best, to keep the lotto from starting yeat :reasons.

1)Lotto matrix changes

2)Server changes

3)other.

But lots of work is beeing put inn by Bryan, and his programmers. We will let you know about the BM's lotto link when its ready.

Bryans last post about pips was last week.

:http://www.rolclub.com/showthread.php?t=5029

Have a nice day.

Regards

Marek
admin
www.rolclub.com



Murphy? (= Murphy's Law?)

golddust




Posted by: forwardone

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Murphy? (= Murphy's Law?)


Yes, I reckon he`s to blame for the lotto not starting yeat.



Posted by: eagle2

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Originally Posted by forwardone
Yes, I reckon he`s to blame for the lotto not starting yeat.


Same type answer as in Hyipdiscussion forum.

Friend of mine told me soo ( he is member there), by you posting there in same form.



Posted by: darcieP

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Originally Posted by value4money
Even at HYIPd some of the most ardent pips supporters are now raising their voices against the deletion of threads over at Rolclub. Marek and some of his crowd don`t like uncomfortable questions being posted that`s for sure.


It looks like the propipsters are now very much in the minority at HYIPD. It seems the only way they can get themselves heard nowadays is by SHOUTING and being offensive. They are losing their allies fast. Those who`ve had doubts are now more willing to post their views on PIPS without fear of being shouted down.



Posted by: intheknow

I see that even that most of all the PROrolclub mods, Shell, has thrown in the towel. All is not well in paradise.

http://www.hyipdiscussion.com/pips-...html#post141909



Posted by: golddust

Interesting thread now indicating more communication with the "bank", in addition more communication from Bryan all leading to the question, has Bryan been charged?
'Good' (in a sad way) to see some members are actually losing faith and expressing anger at the correct target, Bryan.

golddust




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