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Posted by: scrapage_online

http://www.alientrust.com

Are you ready to get started earning big, on a cool and exciting website?

Alien Trust has been designed and implemented to acheive maximum cash return results for your upgrade, in a fun and safe environment. No pop-ups, fly-ins or any other type of framebreaking activity is allowed, and ALL sites are checked manually.

We offer you a 10% daily return on your Alien Shares at $8.00 per Share for a 14 day Term which nets you a 40% return on your upgrade. Plus you'll earn 5% on all Shares purchased by your personal referrals to Alien Trust

http://www.alientrust.com

This is a discussion thread....



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Here is the who is:

Registrant:
North Shore Media
9 Rene Circle
Wichita Falls, Texas 76306
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: ALIENTRUST.COM
Created on: 02-Nov-05
Expires on: 02-Nov-06
Last Updated on: 18-Dec-05

Administrative Contact:
Kronlein, Vince nsmedia@gmail.com
North Shore Media
9 Rene Circle
Wichita Falls, Texas 76306
United States
8005415820 Fax -- 9407993546
Technical Contact:
Kronlein, Vince nsmedia@gmail.com
North Shore Media
9 Rene Circle
Wichita Falls, Texas 76306
United States
8005415820 Fax -- 9407993546

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.ALIENTRUST.COM
NS2.ALIENTRUST.COM



Posted by: scrapage_online

the same owner as of 2x200. But it is a paying program for now, so i will keep this one thumbs up.



Posted by: Indyan

I invested 80$ for now.
Since both of them have the same owner I feel that it is better to invest in alien.Becoz it is unlikely that he would shut down one and continue with the other one.



Posted by: scrapage_online

yes, and definitely i will keep alientrust, paid me two times already



Posted by: scrapage_online

requested yesterday and paid today!!! very fast!!!



Posted by: thetrader

Joined this one



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by thetrader
Joined this one


I joined recently too and I'm quite pleased so far.....
still trying to figure it all out but I'm getting there....

hope to build to a large level in Alien Trust.....



Posted by: scrapage_online

they are moving to a new server now and maybe they will declare a surfing holiday today, just check the site frequently.

Good luck to all who has invested. Payout is faster than 12daily.

I have been paid 3 times already.



Posted by: thetrader

Am quite happy with them, hope they last a long time And yes they do payout faster..



Posted by: lazygirl

Alien Trust is currently down for database maintenance.We will return in approx 4 hours.Thank you.


probably I'll cashout and upgrade again tomorrow in AT....
anyone know if we get a surfing holiday if we can't surf today?




Posted by: zelazko

their forum is operational

http://www.alientrust.com/members/forum/

zelazko



Posted by: lazygirl

you can load the site here: http://72.32.7.146/index.php



Posted by: scrapage_online

site is ok now, smooth surfing again, you need to surf 15 sites to be paid. the new template is good. keep it up AT



Posted by: lazygirl

yep, I could't surf last night but it seems ok today...

do we get compensated if we couldn't surf last night?



Posted by: scrapage_online

Good Morning

We wanted to contact everyone and let you know that
our move to RackSpace has taken place but we're still
finding some issues difficult to sort out.

With all the added levels of security on the new system
we have some session and postback irregularities that
we need to track down and repair or reconfigure.

So to alleviate this issue we've turned off the upgrade
and surf buttons for now so that we can stop all further
errors and do some damage control on what's already
taken place.

All accounts will be credited for the days you've missed
surfing so please DO NOT contact us for these issues.
The only tickets we will be accepting are for missed
upgrades. If you upgraded during this transition time
and your upgrade did not get posted then please by all
means post a ticket and we'll get it fixed as soon as
we get access to the admin section on the site.

Right now WE can't even hold a session long enough to
pull up your accounts, so please don't post a ticket,
call or fax on this as we can't get anything done for
you on this anyway.

Once we re-establish control of the software, we'll get
all the missing upgrades taken care of, then we'll move
on to other issues.

Obviously payouts will be delayed until suck time that
we gain access to the admin section.

Please do not worry folks, all this will be handled,
your account and your purchases are safe and you'll be
able to get back to work soon. We just invested nearly
$100,000.00 to ensure just that - we'll get back online
as soon as possible, believe me we want everything to
be working correctly as well.

Thanks and we'll get with you and let you know when
everything is working correctly again.

Vince Kronlein
Executive Director
North Shore Media



Posted by: golddust

I feel pretty certain that surfing holidays will be allocated. This is a major change.


golddust



Posted by: scrapage_online

yes it is. let's hope this will be fixed soon..



Posted by: scrapage_online

Man it's been a long couple of days smile.gif

We're closing in on the finals fixes to get us up and running
again, we expect at this point to be back online by Midnight
Server time tonight. We're very pleased with the speed of the
new servers and we're looking forward to making even more
corrections to the code to decrease the errors and improve the
performance.

Once again, we are calling it a go for 12:00AM Server time
tonight. You may still see some session issues as we continue
to investigate, but more often than not if you simply reload
the page once or twice your sessions will catch and you'll be
logged in again. These type of scripts were never designed to
be used in such a complex environment and with 3 web servers
actually serving up content the sessions have a hard time keeping
up with your position in the server pool.

For all of you who have been patient, we certainly appreciate
it, if you've been with us for a while you know we have a proven
track record of keeping our promises, and this move is no exception.
We've spared no expense in this move to RackSpace and it shows
in the lightning speed in which you can now move in and out of
the software.

For those of you who have filed claims after we've contacted
everyone numerous times to keep you apprised of the status of
the move, well let's just say that the future with us doesn't
look as bright for you as it could've been.

We've pulled ALL pending cashout requests and balanced them
and they are ready to be paid. We'll get those out to you just
as soon as we get back live and things are back on track.

Our next step is to get all missing upgrades added into the
system so that we can go live and we'll be doing that over the
next few hours. If you have an upgrade that didn't post, make
sure you open a support ticket to the billing dept, make sure
you include your receipt from StormPay and we'll get it entered.

WE WILL NOT PROCESS ANY SUPPORT TICKETS ABOUT OTHER ISSUES UNTIL
WE GET THE SYSTEM BACK ONLINE! So please don't waste your time
or ours by posting one, wait till we're live and running at full
speed then you can feel free to contact us about referral issues
or what have you.

Folks the forum is beyond repair and will need to be deleted.
It sucks cause we had some really good posts in there, but alas
- it's FUBAR! We're going to be creating a NSM Portal where you
can manage your entire account and keep track of all your NSM
businesses all in one spot, post news, there will be a forum and
so on. So stand by for that in the next week or so. Until then
we'll be posting news directly on the support news section so
you can grab the latest news there (including this email) and
we'll add a link or RSS feed where the current news is in the
Control Panel.

That's it for now, lotta work to do so I'm gonna get back to
it.

See ya all soon.

Vince Kronlein
Executive Director
North Shore Media



Posted by: scrapage_online

ad viewer have been activated again.



Posted by: Lvis

I have been a member of AlienTrust for about a month now. I have been paid threed times. It appears to be an excellent program so far. If they can last as long as 12dp, it would be awesome. I would like to see AT add EMO as a payment option, Stormpay fees are way to high, even with the NetIBA cert.

Lvis

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/...tormshot1mj.jpg

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Posted by: forwardone

Yes, from what I`ve seen around the forums this is a pretty solid program at this moment.



Posted by: Lvis

The best way to earn quickly in AT is the withdraw every friday and buy new shares. You end up paying more in fees, but the increased earning more than make up for the cost.

Lvis



Posted by: zelazko

I wonder if I'll be able to make up for it faster than they are able to track down my lost upgrade?
Anyway, speedy chaps they are when it comes to payout!
Having fun.



Posted by: RVachon

I can't surf today. WHen I hit Ad Viewer, it just logs me out and kicks me back to the front page. Can't access the forum either.



Posted by: zelazko

Quote:
Originally Posted by RVachon
I can't surf today. WHen I hit Ad Viewer, it just logs me out and kicks me back to the front page. Can't access the forum either.


Same here. I managed to surf 2 pages today (Feb2nd)trying the above procedure. Much less fun surfing today. Hope they declare a holiday. Man...
Forum is accesible: http://www.alientrust.com/members/forum/
(keep pressing reload)
News are posted what they're up to. Same news through the link on yr members home page.They're saying something abt 24hrs to get going. And in the mean time - keep logging in (they say).
Well, back to logging in.



Posted by: zelazko

Lots've changed since the last post here.
Anybody made a succesful claim at StormPay to get the mony out?



Posted by: scrapage_online

None so far it think, since SP issue chargeback to 12daily, all money or account zeroed out.



Posted by: scrapage_online

Good Afternoon Everyone,

First of all let me apologize for not updating everyone over the past few days. All of us were out of town scouting convention space for the pending convention in November. We looked at some promising locations but nothing concrete as of yet.

What I'd like to do today is talk a little bit about the StormPay issue and our plan moving forward to help correct some of the mistakes being made in the industry and what we're going to do to help legitimize the business model.

Our attorney has advised us to do 3 things, number 1 contact all the federal agencies we can and file complaints about StormPay to ensure that we are part of the group doing likewise, and ask for a review of our company to ensure that we are indeed doing business legally, that process has already begun.

2nd, to retain legal council in the state of Tennessee to assist with the expedition of our case against them.

And number 3, watch and see what happens in the larger cases. Since 12DP is heavily involved with the legal aspect of the case taking a wait and see approach in regards to their case seems very logical and will give us a good foundation to build our case.

I will not make any further comments about the status of our legal involvement because this would simply undermine our chances of a successful outcome. If you think for one second that StormPay doesn't have people reading these posts here and at all the other forums across the net you're crazy. We're not going to give away our strategy, and that's all I can say.

The future of the AS industry.

The 5 of us, Stephanie, Brian, Jenny, Melissa and myself spent a good deal of time this weekend discussing what has happened, what will happen and if there's anything we can do to change it, and we believe we can. There are however some undeniable truths that we all need to accept if we want the industry to survive.

The AutoSurf as we knew it before is over, period. There's simply no way that we can recover the momentum, or boost the confidence enough to get back to where the industry was just a few short weeks ago. The days of 40% payouts are gone. No owner in their right mind would go back to that knowing what we know now, and seeing what has happened. No matter how hard you try to insulate yourself, you are always going to be at the mercy of whoever is running the payment system.

Ultimately we can still surf for cash, BUT there needs to be a realistic system in place that can be supported long term, there needs to be a real cost for the product delivered, and the company needs to make a profit in order to stay in business.

In the old business model, the majority of your earnings were predicated on simply paying you your own money back. I never really liked that system to be honest, I think it's silly that I have to surf for 10 days or whatever just to get my own money back. But the old system didn't rely heavily on commissions, they were more of an afterthought. Let's look at the reality of that scenario.

On each sale the company is upside down by the amount of the plan ie: 40%, 20% or whatever, the cost of commissions, in our case it was 5%, and the cost of processing payments, which is substantial. In a normal week at SP we paid nearly 300,000 in fees.

I don't care where the owner is investing, or what they are doing outside the auto-surf to make money, there's simply no way to create that type of return for the average AS business. This is the reason so many of them fail. Our model was always different from the very beginning, and allowing everyone to cashout every week and decide how much they wanted allowed us to have substantial reserves, usually more than what was paid out. So there's no way we would've collapsed in the short term, but looking long term, the business model simply doesn't stand up, UNLESS you diversify BIG TIME.

So in looking at a way to allow folks to earn a living by surfing we needed to make a commitment to keeping the system WITHIN the means of each individual sale. To ensure that we are legal, and ensure we are within the boundaries of reality, we decided to create a business model that would have long term staying power, and be easy for other owners to implement as well without the need to have 20 programs running in order to support the autosurf business.

Folks the industry is dying - we need to change the model. We will either lead the way, or fall by the wayside.

As any business professional will tell you there is always a cost of doing business. You have to pay for tools you need to build a business and/or income. In the old ASC model there was no cost for your advertising. You got everything for free and then some. We need to get back to reality and get back to understanding that you build an income based on referring, not on surfing.

Referrals are what fuel EVERY company on earth. Freestanding brick and mortar businesses, MLM business, Affiliate programs like Amazon, and so on. Even movies are referral based, you read a review in the paper, or your Aunt Sally says hey so and so was great go check it out.

This IS the way businesses are built. You don't see any of these businesses giving away more money than they take in do you? Then why are we? This is the reason StormPay and others are screaming Ponzi. Whether the model is or not, is still open for debate, but we're creating a model that will not be included in that discussion.

There will be a real cost for each ad pack you purchase, you will be able to re-coup a good percentage of that advertising in the form of a rebate for viewing the ads of other members, and you will earn explosive commissions because now we can pay commissions based on the sale made because the amount earned surfing is within the realm of reason.

Here's how it will be set up at the beginning, and then the numbers will change accordingly once some of our obligations are met.

Members who choose to purchase ad Ad Buy will earn 4.9% daily for 7 days. This equates to 35% of your Ad Buy. You will receive 35% commissions on Ad Buys purchased by your personally sponsored teammates. The company will retain 10%, and the remaining 20% will be allocated to the repayment fund to help repay all the members who were damaged by StormPay. Any and all funds retrieved through litigation will be allocated to this fund as well.

Now I know folks that this is in no way as lucrative as what the industry was doing before, BUT, it is stable, smart, and can be sustained forever. No one is in over their head and everyone is getting paid according to what they produce, not what they have to through into the kitty.

Folks the industry CAN survive and there can be a ton of great ASC sites on the net again, but the model HAS TO CHANGE!! We can no longer sit idly by as more and more scams come along and rob us of our money. This plan is THE plan that can help save the industry.

Just as a note, the plan numbers will change once all funds are repaid to members, to 40%,40% and 20% for the company. We also plan on instituting bonuses and contests to be named later on, and there can be a wealth of other things added to the mix to really take this to the next level, but let's start here and see where it goes.

We're going to be having a live conference tonight and as soon as I get the room ready I'll post the link here.

I know many of you may decide to continue to work the high risk stuff, and may leave us, and that's fine, you have to do what's best for you. By the same token we must do what's best for us and the industry as a whole. As the number 2 site on the net we feel an obligation to create something that looks to the future and helps get the smaller ASC sites back in the game, big or small EVERY site out there is important, and as an industry we really need each other.

So for those of you who are only interested in making a quick buck and running for the door, you'll need to look elsewhere. We're building a system that will last for many years to come and will be outside of the scrutiny of government regulation. Granted we may not take in the millions that we did before right away, but this program will be much more successful over the long haul because there is no outside funding required to make it work. Everything is paid for with the sales generated by the system itself, and isn't long term stability REALLY what we're all after?

I hope to see you all on the conference tonight.

Vince Kronlein
Executive Director
North Shore Media

Here is the link for tonight's conference - it will be held at 9:00PM Central Time US, sorry but you'll have to do the math yourself http://www.northshore-media.com/smilies/smile1.gif

http://www.alientrust.com/conference.exe

make sure you're there early as it will fill up fast.



Posted by: scrapage_online

site is back up now and running again after re-launch



Posted by: scrapage_online

i have upgraded again in this alien thru e-gold,
new members will be accepted later the admin said maybe midnight



Posted by: Lvis

Quote:
Originally Posted by scrapage_online
i have upgraded again in this alien thru e-gold,
new members will be accepted later the admin said maybe midnight


Same here. I upgraded just enough to earn enough to manual compound each friday. I lost a tidy sum, in the old AT. I hope I can recover the loss in the new AT. A refund from AT would be nice, but I am not holding my breath for that.


Lvis



Posted by: scrapage_online

i have lost also in old AT but i am feeling confident now on this program



Posted by: lazygirl

I lost in the old AT and have not yet upgraded in the new version. but I surf as a free member for the moment.



Posted by: scrapage_online

they are now accepting new members



Posted by: scrapage_online

SYSTEM UPDATE: Compounding Issue Solved & More
12. March 2006 @ 23:27 Good Evening Everyone,

We've had a lot of tickets and postings in the Forum concerning the fact that with the new funding system it opened up the widow for daily compounding.

First of all let's define what folks are talking about and I'll show you why it doesn't matter to us if that was to happen.

In an Investment type program where you're earning a return on an investment - a daily compunding would indeed kill the business fairly quickly. It doesn't effect us here at AT because we're not an investment of any type. You are making a purchase of traffic. The money you pay when you purchase an ad buy is OUR money.

We then pay you commissions to view ads. The money in what is now your commissions account is your money that you've earned. There's absolutely no difference in us paying it to you through e-gold and you buying additional ads, or buying those ads directly from your earnings. No difference at all. Either way you're spending your money on new advertising. Simply giving it back to us so to speak.

That being said - the situation that was happening is not one that we wanted and I hadn't thought about it so we did indeed change it along with a couple other things.

Here's how the system now works:

You now have 2 accounts listed on your stats page.

Your Commissions account - which holds all of your ad viewing and affiliate commissions, and your AT Holding account which is the account that you will use to buy advertising with.

We've moved the 4% fee away from the cashout process and attached it to the AT Holding account so that now, at anytime you fund your Holding account with either Commission earnings, or moeny from a processor the 4% fee happens at that time. For instance if you were to fund your holding account from e-gold for 100.00, once the transaction is processed you will see 96.00 in your holding account. Same goes for a commissions transfer - you transfer 100.00 to your holding account - you'll see 96.00 in the account.

This does a couple things for us all - it allows the SP repayment fund to grow quicker because now in order to roll over earnings you contribute to the fund, and it takes the fee off of the cashout so that if you do cashout - you'll see exactly what we've sent and you'll know we've not taken anything off of that amount.

It also sets us up with a permenant staging area to add more options to the program. For instance when the cards come out hopefully later this week, you'll be able to simply move money into the holding account and make the purchase right through the system and keep track of exactly where and what you spent your money on.

You will notice on the Increase Ad Buy page you'll see a sentence saying that you will be able to do a commission transfer once your current ad buys have expired. Once they do expire and your account drops to the Ad Viewer level, that sentence will turn into a link for you to access that page.

The transfer page is linked both from the cashout page and the ad buy page once your account downgrades to the Ad Viewer level. It's also coded so that no transfers can be done if you have active ad buys so even if you were to call it by name, it still won't allow you to transfer anything.

I hope this will alleviate any doubts or questions people had about this issue, as I said it was not something that we were worried about, but it wasn't something that we wanted to be happening either so we've fixed it up.

The new stats should be up tomorrow and we'll get those posted ASAP.

Also I will be working on the surfbar this week to add an AutoVote feature that will pass your voted url directly to the survey so you needn't have to remember it or write it down. We're getting alot of folks who are putting garbage into the survey and that certainly doesn't help us in providing accurate stats for you, or to solicit large companies to advertise with us. Garbage in - garbage out.

So if you notice some fluctuation on the epiphany surfbar this week that's why, please bear with us as we solve this next area that needs work.

Thanks and have a great week everyone.

Vince



Posted by: scrapage_online

latest news

UniClear Funding
20. March 2006 @ 09:43 Good Morning Everyone,

I hope everyone had a good weekend.

We're continuing to have issues with the UniClear postback. For some reason it seems that their script is either changed daily, or has some sort of random errors in it that keeps it from posting back correctly.

Please ensure that you follow the prompts while at the UniClear site until you end up all the way back at the website thank you page. If you don't return to the website from UniClear your deposit will most certainly NOT be posted automatically, whether you completed it or not.

Simply follow the buttons that you're presented with and once you click "Done" you'll be returned to the website.

There are also several other issues that we need to discuss with UniClear and we're making every attempt to contact them via telephone to get the answers we need. But however, if we are unable to reach them prior to 5PM Central Time today UniClear WILL be removed as a funding source until such time that we CAN reach them.

We anticipate this getting solved today, but just a heads up in case it doesn't.

Have a great day everyone.

Vince



Posted by: scrapage_online

UPDATES FOR 3-20 AND 3-21
Quote:
21. March 2006 @ 00:19 Good Evening Everyone,

It's late here on Monday evening and I wanted to take a few moments to let you all know about some upcoming changes that took place today, and will be taking place tomorrow, and later this week.

As many of you may have noticed, and those who have been reading the news here on the blog, we've been having some withdrawal issues with UniClear and as of today have ceased accepting account funding with UniClear.com.

After a long and arduous process of compiling and submitting over 26 pages of verification documents to UniClear and having our Trust Level there elevated to Unlimited Status, UniClear is still dragging their feet releasing our money to us. We've produced nearly 200K in advertising sales through UniClear.com and after requesting several ACH transfers to our bank we've been rebuffed.

They have to date managed to transfer 10,000 of the 120,000 that we've requested to E-Gold, but we simply will not allow another StormPay situation to take place. We WILL NOT put anymore funds into the hands of a company that seems to be dragging their feet settling our funds.

If this situation improves and begins to be expedited we WILL put UniClear back into the mix, but for now, we simply aren't willing to put any faith into any processor.

Next, we've done a complete overhaul on the Ad Viewer bar and Survey system which you will begin seeing tomorrow. After 3 weeks of what I would call less than enthusiastic response to our required Survey, it's become obvious to us here at the office that some people just aren't willing to participate unless they're forced to.

It's really amazing to me that some people are so lazy that they can't even take 2 minutes to fill in a 5 question survey in order to help strengthen the very company that they are depending on to pay them for their work. And at the same time it will be those people who cry "scam" when we have to fold because of their laziness.

In any event, since so many people refuse to write down, or copy and paste a url into the survey, we're enabling a new feature that will require each member to Vote for a specific URL during their ad viewing session.

Starting tomorrow, you'll begin to see a green link in the ad viewer to the right of the displayed url listing that says "Survey This Ad URL". If you would like to vote for that specific url as your chosen URL for your daily survey, you will simply click that link. You'll be taken to a page that will give you a button to vote for that url. That url will then be inserted into the database and start your survey for the day.

You'll get a thank you message and a button to return to the viewer to complete your session. Once your session is complete, you'll see your link to the survey as normal, but once you click to the survey, the url you previously selected will now be prefilled into the survey to prevent people from entering bogus information into the form. (We've also corrected that small error message you used to get after submiting the survey http://www.northshore-media.com/smilies/smile1.gif

If you fail to Vote during your session, you WILL NOT be allowed to post your survey and will be forced to log out, then navigate back to the site, login, go back to the Ad Viewer and Vote on the one site you'll get to view. So, for all of you that have been trying to skate the system, just get with the program, or you're going to be wasting a great deal of time trying to get paid everyday.

Next - Starting next Monday March 27th - anyone who fails to put a URL and Title on any Ad Buy will have their account suspended, and will be forced to provide it to us through the Support Desk. This is pretty simple gang, it's the advertising that makes the system work - if you don't put in qualified urls, no ads can be displayed. By trying to skirt the system and not provide ads for people to earn on, and simply view and get paid you are defrauding not only us, but all your other teammates here within the system.

We thought about simply pointing all those ads to some of our stuff, but that simply wouldn't be ethical, so we've decided that those who don't want to participate can sit on the sidelines and watch as everyone else advertises and makes money.

So I would suggest for all of you who have ads that are currently suspended that still have credits on them get into your account and get those pointed to something prior to the 27th, or you may find your account suspended.

My apologies to anyone who may find this harsh or be offended, but we simply cannot continue to allow this type of behavior and I feel that a STRONG message is required to let everyone know how truly serious we are about these items. We will not allow people to cheat the system or simply be lazy. If you want to participate here - then DO IT! Don't think for one second that we are going to pay people if they aren't doing what's required.

We have several other exciting things coming up here in the next few days - everything is starting to come online here right at the same time and it's pretty cool to watch. I'm meeting tomorrow with Patterson Auto Center here locally to get our first raffle underway, we've ordered the first batch of T-Shirts, Hoodies and Coffee Mugs from our vendor, we just filed today for LLC status here in Texas, Virtual Money Cards will be coming soon, it's all coming together folks.

So GET FIRED UP!!! Get out there and promote and get ready for the future!

Thanks to everyone and I look forward to talking to you all again soon.

Vince




Posted by: lazygirl

this one seems to have recovered and is back among the top autosurf programs, it seems.



Posted by: thetrader

yup.. working fine..



Posted by: scrapage_online

recovered and going strong.
though 4% fee is fair enough for the refund process and hoping that we get those refund



Posted by: Los

Not much been posted in here. So i will post the latest update re Ordering your VM cards
Quote:
Virtual Money Card Launch
17. April 2006 @ 13:39
Good Afternoon Everyone,

As promised the Virtual Money Card System is now underway. You may order a Virtual Money Card by clicking the Order VM Card button in the Members Menu in the Comtrol Panel.

We've had many questions concerning the VM Card and the associated fees so I'll make every attempt to answer those here.

The VM Card can be utilized worldwide anywhere there's an ATM or POS system that accepts Cirrus and/or Pulse ATM cards. Your VM Card is a PIN based card for your protection so that in case you lose the card, no one can access your funds without knowing the PIN number.

Here are the fees for your cards:

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Initial Card Purchase : $24.95
Additional Cards: $15.00 EA
Funds Deposit 4.95
ATM Withdrawal - US 1.50
ATM Withdrawal - US (Denied) 0.60
ATM Withdrawal - International 4.50
ATM Withdrawal - International (Denied) 1.20
ATM Balance Inquiry/Denied Inquiry - US 0.50
ATM Balance Inquiry/Denied Inquiry - International 0.50
VRU Activity Fee 0.60
Card to Card Transfer 3.00
Card to Bank Account Transfer 3.00
Bank Account to Card Transfer 3.00
Monthly Account Service Fee 4.95
Account Dormancy 3.00
Card Deactivation 1.00
Lost Card Replacement 15.00
Load Transfer 4.95
Destination Card Fee ($0.00-$333.99) 0.00
Card to Check 4.95
Benefits 9.95
Destination Card Fee ($334.00-$666.99) 0.00
Destination Card Fee ($667.00-Max) 0.00
Cashier Load Transfer 4.95

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The Virtual Money Card System will completely replace E-Gold as a method to cashout your commission earnings, there will be no further cashout requests to E-Gold. We stated this several months ago and yet we still have folks asking if there will be an option - just like now with E-Gold - there is no option - Virtual Money will be the only method used to cashout commissions.

Hopefully we can get payments with the VM Card completely integrated by the time the next cashout cycle rolls around on 4/28/2006. Please remeber we need to move all the existing funds from E-Gold to the VM System and that will take some time to do - plus you need to have a week or so to start receiving your cards.

VM Cards sales will be processed daily Mon-Thur and on Monday for the weekend sales.

Folks I guarantee once you see all the functionality with this card you'll never look back. This card can replace any banking system you currently use and is completely FDIC insured up to $100,000.00. For instance, we've already added our VM card as a bank account on PayPal and it works beautifully. I can add or remove funds from the PayPal system directly to my VM Account with the click of a button.

Your VM Card is hooked directly to a bank account and integrates seamlessly anywhere you can use traditional direct deposit or ACH. You can bank wire directly to the account, and transfer funds from your VM account directly to your bank right from the VM back office.

You can even pay bills online by writing checks from your VM account.

It's a tremendous system and we're looking frward to getting these out to you over the coming months.

Please ensure that you follow all directions on the order form when ordering and if you have any questions please hit the Support System of post in the Virtual Money Forum.

Thanks and have a great day.

Vince
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Posted by: forwardone

Moved to `Watch and Wait`



Posted by: golddust

A good move at that...



Posted by: forwardone

Now in scams folder.




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