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How Many Programs Are You With Right Now?

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Posted by: forwardone

Many players recommend diversification, so, how many programs - HYIPs, Surfs, Cyclers etc are you currently in and paying, or at least you hope they will. Don`t include any that you`ve written off as scams/closed.


Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Right now I am in three with two in limbo, Gins and Pips. The only one that is paying me monthly right now is Offshore Club. I am now looking around for a couple more programs to get into but believe me I am going to be very very picky.


Posted by: value4money

In 4 at the moment.


Posted by: space

Three, but on the lookout for a few more good ones.


Posted by: darcieP

I think we are quite a cautious lot here, no-one so far has admitted to double figures.


Posted by: kieren

i`m going to be real choosy so i`m not in any at the moment but looking for the right ones.


Posted by: golddust

It is hard to find the good ones, isn't it? Depends if you want to surf, hit and run, long term ROI, or moderate ROI and program length. There are good ones in all those areas, but it is good to hear that people are being cautious. I think it is better to stay with a handful of good ones then spread yourself too thin.

But on the other hand, I know a goood 'tripler'....


golddust


Posted by: forwardone

I`m just in 3 right now, MWA, MPDW and Luxorian Holdings. At one time I was in something like 25, but I either cashed out at a profit, or the programs folded. Now I take a far more cautious approach. I`ve got NSFG in my sights next I think.


Posted by: clifton

I am in FF, i-midas, MWA and NSFG + 4-5 "gambling" ones and autosurfs


Posted by: thetrader

Im in Feederfund, cgfin, 12dailypro, matcofinancial, and a few other autosurfs with minimum invest to test.


Posted by: golddust

Here goes:

GF
NSFG
MPDW
CGFin
PIU
XpertHits
BomSystems
Luxorian Holdings
Solid Investments
Matrix Daily
Odd Zone
YRIP
E-grantz

That puts me into double figures... guess I won't mention the ones that are just for fun!
golddust


Posted by: Zimbu

My current stable has 26 horses... but one is going lame and there are about 5 new foals I'm saddling up...

OK, enough of the equestrian metaphor, but seriously I'm aiming at 30 by mid-year....


Posted by: easymoney

I've invested in about 20 programs.
50% is invested in 5 (more or less) stable programs like feederfund, goldfellers, CG Financials.
30% I've put in more risky programs, but who are around for a while (eg 5Star Hyip, E-Bucks, BestSafeInvest, SPS, Offshore Club.
The last 20% is 'playing money'. and is used for new programs, test spends and more risky investments (eg Capital Managing, Bomsystems)

20 programs is about the max for me. With the time I have available, this is still manageble.


Posted by: fatcat

In 8 at the moment


Posted by: golddust

@zimbu and easymoney:

What kind of programs/records do you use to keep track of your reconciliation? (Cause that's a lot of accounting, if you are maintaining any statistical data at all.)


golddust


Posted by: Zimbu

I use a spreadsheet to keep running balance totals on a weekly basis.


Posted by: easymoney

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
@zimbu and easymoney:

What kind of programs/records do you use to keep track of your reconciliation? (Cause that's a lot of accounting, if you are maintaining any statistical data at all.)


golddust

Spreadsheets and a small database program I've developed to keep track of historical data.


Posted by: golddust

It's good to hear that. I hope that those who are new to HYIPs are putting together documentation in any way familiar, to see your spending results. It helps future planning as well.

I've been using Excel, and hyperlink each program P/L history sheet to a Reconciliation Record, which calculates actual ROI percentages.

Anyone else have suggestions for record keeping along with the programs you are invested in?

golddust


Posted by: golddust

I really did not intend to pull this thread "OT":

So "How Many Programs Are You With Right Now"?


golddust


Posted by: damien_k

10 for me...4 AutoSurfs for "cashflow and rapid money" , 5 solid programs (so far they are ) MPDW - FXIG - NSFG - FF - CGFin and 2 "high risks" Po & MaxYield...a good portfolio for me...


Posted by: poolforprofits

I'm in 12 right now. Have been in as many as 21 in the past.
NSFG
FXIG
4X-Club
FX-Experts
PIU
FF
Net-Invest
DadnDaves
Financial Freedom Club
Gold-Trade
Efex
Prosperous Concepts


Posted by: golddust

Latest Portfolio:

GF
NSFG
MPDW
PIU
Compactsurfing
Wired Surf
BizopAds
XpertHits
Solid Investments
Matrix Daily
Gold Trade
ECurrencyReserve
HYIPeffect

one private program and playing some profitable 'games'...
things sure have changed regarding 'games'.

golddust


Posted by: MacWatson

... It's good to hear that.


Posted by: golddust

Things have certainly changed in the last 2 months. How many of those programs are still in your portfolio?

Here's my current list:

NSFG
MPDW - (for better or worse)
PIU
HYIP2properity
VIP invest
Rog's Program
Compactsurfing
Wired Surf
FastProfit Club
XLOsurf
Matrix Daily - (for better or worse)
Two private programs
Solid Investments - going, going, gone?
9Planets
My Free Shares
= 16

This is managable for me and I am looking to expand due to the questionable future of SI, for sure.

golddust


Posted by: csebastian

only 1-3 programs for me


Posted by: golddust

Welcome to WebLife csebastian. Please read the rules for posting and SIGS. I had to amend your SIG.


Posted by: golddust

I've lost three programs in the last 2 weeks. Uncertainty remains with the others. This is not looking like a good month. BUT - things change!


Posted by: drtedy

is your proram use egold save?
Need diffrent way just one best like http://www.egoldfocus.com/join.php
look my bonus and web replica
http://www.clubmentor.com


Posted by: golddust

drtedy, Welcome to Weblife.
Here's some info to share about the program you've mentioned:
IP address: 67.15.225.4
Previous scam with the identical IP address:
http://www.21daysincome.com

Brings in a red flag!

Caution please.

golddust

PS. The thread topic is: 'Your Top 5 HYIPs right now", so everyone please focus on adding to the content of the thread. Thanks.


golddust


Posted by: golddust

I am in 13 programs right now and looking to add a few more.


golddust


Posted by: forwardone

You are in the 16.67% group then golddust who are in 10 - 15 programs.


Posted by: nunulka

I´m in
Penizeznetu2.com private - the best czech program (I´m in profit)
bets-fund (turboptc.com) - the same admin who runs penizeznetu2 ( in profit)
xlentxtra.com - (I made my first deposit on Aug 18) waiting
Rog - (I made my first deposit on Aug 30) waiting
Europe Trade Ltd - in profit
Egold SMS Invest
Private-fund.com
Group-investment.com
In-Fx - New added


Posted by: easymoney

I try to keep my max number of programs to 20. I'm in 18 right now:
- RE Club
- AceInvest
- Club FX Trader
- KaOnline
- AsianPay
- Udachu
- GM
- Ibiza Traders
- CRJ
- PSX
- MoneyMovesAsia
- OFC
- NSFG
- PIU
- GiG Mutual
- FF
- MPDW
- GF

5 programs I've started to invest last year are still there (but a lot are not)
5 programs I've started the first qty of this year
8 programs I've started the second qty 2006

20 is the max for me to manage.


Posted by: golddust

I can see why you'd want to stick at 20, this is a big portfolio. However, I see a few which are not moving eg. MPDW. I'm only counting the 'active' ones.


golddust


Posted by: easymoney

At this time 20 programs is about the max, because of my (lack of) time to spend on this and also because of the available money to invest.

It takes time to keep track of the programs, to browse the forums, checking out new potential programs... well, guess you know what I mean. Since this is still a 'hobby', I also need some time for my regular job and my family.

Also, I do not want to spread my money into very small pieces. That's why 20 programs is (at this stage) the maximum number to handle for me.

And you are right, some programs are not moving at this moment. MPDW and PSX are the two 'in trouble'. Probably have to write them off soon.


Posted by: Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

With some who are in up to 20 programs, what is your annual total given so many are scams and vanish within months?

Good luck to all, Mike


Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore-Wealth.com
Interesting,

With some who are in up to 20 programs, what is your annual total given so many are scams and vanish within months?

Good luck to all, Mike


Annual total of programs? Interesting question. Personally, I find I add 1-2 programs a month to keep 'ahead'. Then there are a few programs that do span the years, like GF and FF.


golddust


Posted by: easymoney

This is an interesting question.
I invest in about 20 programs. So far this year, I've invested in a total of about 50 programs. So 30 programs are gone, or I've stopped investing in them.

Time and experience are important factors here. It takes time and experience to build up a good portfolio.

Also most of the programs I've invested in I've lost money in. But, if you diversify well, losses in a program are mostly small, but the few that make profit are often making you big money.

Out of these 50 programs, I've only been in profit with 15 of them, but they made me 150% profit this year so far.


Posted by: nunulka

easymoney

You seem to be an experienced investor. Can I ask a question? How long are you in the Hyip arena? And please tell me your best success.


a little off topic


Posted by: easymoney

No problem, Nunulka. I'm in the HYIP business since januari 2005. Lost everything after 4 months before realising that the way to succeed is taking this seriously. Define a goal and a strategy to reach that goal. And then try to stick to it (hardest part). Since then it's all going uphill . Aiming for 15% increase of my investing balance each month.

I've been scammed many times...it's part of the deal. You can not avoid it. But the longer you're playing, the more 'stable' and long lasting programs become part of your portfolio. My golden rule is to diversify, never have too much money in a single program. Even if this one is performing great. Because there's one thing I've definitly learned....NOTHING LAST FOREVER. Not ponzi's, not real trading programs.....they all fail somewhere.

The best program for me has definitly been Goldenrocks....but guess what, they also stopped!


Posted by: golddust

This is the voice of experience. Most who are starting in HYIPs find out the losses exceed the earnings. IF one decides to stick with it, diversification is one of the most important rule with the knowledge that you must continually keep another program on the horizon, because scams have the majority rule that will decay your returns. Everyone has a different goal in mind for what they hope to achieve in earnings.

golddust


Posted by: nunulka

I´m in the Hyip arena since March of this year. Of course I lost some money but I still read and learn, and learn. We learn by mistakes and it´s true.

easymoney, thank you. I wish you a lot of success and good luck


Posted by: megaplex

Magical word Diversification in this game, without it there would be no fun at all.


Posted by: HighYield

I am in 5 programs at the moment!

A HUGE CHUNK in the one program I know for a fact is one of the ONLY Online High Yield Programs that's legit.

And then in on a few "Smash & Grabs"! Get in, get out and take the money and run........

I am presently waiting to get in on a Pre-Launch to be in at the VERY BEGINNING!!!

To OUR Online Financial Success!


Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by HighYield
I am in 5 programs at the moment!

A HUGE CHUNK in the one program I know for a fact is one of the ONLY Online High Yield Programs that's legit.



HighYield - is this program a secret? Please feel free to open a discussion thread, if one does not exist. Everyone is interested in "legit" programs.


golddust


Posted by: HighYield

Hey golddust:

No the program I am talking about is not private, however for about 4 months it did need to remain fairly quite...

I actual believe in the program enough that I designed my own web-site to promote the program my web-site is called www.highyieldrevolution.com (I hope I'm not breaking any posting rules here ... if so I know you'll correct and I apoligize up front)

I did in fact post the program here http://www.web-life.org/vb/t9891-.html


Posted by: golddust

OK Highyield, since this thread topic concerns 'how many' programs, with no specificity for the 'best' program in your portfolio, I recommend that you continue to post in your thread about Legisi. I know this program has been around.


golddust


Posted by: HighYield

Absolutely - golddust!

I will most certainly do that. ...And who knows maybe we'll see you in OUR Forum -someday!


Posted by: golddust

Maybe!


Posted by: Salty

GOD, LEGISI, KaOnline worth a bet for this year end!


Posted by: lazygirl

right now i'm a member of 4 surf programs (XLO, 12by12Daily, Dadndaves and Traffic Accelerator) and a few other programs such as Udachu, NSFG, FF and KaOnline...


Posted by: nunulka

Update:
I´m a member of these following programs
Europe Trade Ltd.
Rog 58
Penizeznetu
The Finer Things
Elite Ventures
Golden Crusade
In-Fx
U-Pie
Kiro Gain Capital Group


Posted by: golddust

My number has really dropped since Mid November. Look at all the programs that have shut down in the last 30 days. Some big ones! I'm staying on the conservative side to see if what looks good now, still exist in January.


golddust


Posted by: AlexMM

In 2 now, but I'm looking for the something else


Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexMM
In 2 now, but I'm looking for the something else


lots of programs out there, some good, lots of bad ones. be careful anyway.

you looking for some "real" programs?


Posted by: AlexMM

Yes, "real"
This month I'm changed 5 or 6 programs. Maybe more. But only 1-2 of them good. Other - scam. And I'm lost some money.
With Golden Roc I'm earn near $10, but my last deposit($15) was stolen.


Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexMM
Yes, "real"
This month I'm changed 5 or 6 programs. Maybe more. But only 1-2 of them good. Other - scam. And I'm lost some money.
With Golden Roc I'm earn near $10, but my last deposit($15) was stolen.


some that are looking good are Club FX Trader, Life Holdings and Infinity Shares. The Finer Things by XLO admin, Andy still looks good...


Posted by: golddust

Please try to stick to the topic...


Posted by: lazygirl

oh, I thought that was the topic...


Posted by: golddust

NOPE. Just the programs you are with. But PLEASE contribute your comments to the threads respective to the programs you have mentioned.


Posted by: AlexMM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazygirl
some that are looking good are Club FX Trader, Life Holdings and Infinity Shares. The Finer Things by XLO admin, Andy still looks good...


Thanks. I'll try it


Posted by: forwardone

1-3 has the highest percentage of votes. Two members have said they have 16 or more programs.


Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Well, right now I am in three but one (Goldextrading) although you can make a withdrawl you never ever get it.


Posted by: Mobyfon

Absolutely - golddust!


Posted by: dmacdonald111

I've lost count as they go up and down all the time. It's very few at the moment, probably around five - six.


Posted by: Syntexx

I'am also lost count # of programs since mid '05', but now stick and feel safe with 1
program.


Posted by: Vera250

I'm only in 1 autosurf at the moment

I started about 2 years ago with ptr, and search.....
At that time I clicked about 300 mails daily!!!!

That's how I built a startingcapital to get in HYIP's .....I never used money of my own!!!

Now, I have only 1 ptr site left, and get my total profits out of HYIP, sometimes autosurf, because I just like doing them...

You can check on my sites which programs I'm in, and which ones are paying...!!!

Vera


Posted by: golddust

Vera250:

What about all these: you posted:

http://www.web-life.org/vb/showthre...48703#post48703

Quote:
A summary of my paying programs at the moment...

Batch-Ponzi Game
24Daily.net
The One Real One Deal
Earning Gain
Ultimate Target
MM Game
Speedy Invest
LightHalzen
Ering
Year-Profit
Fast Dividends
Fulcrum
Chances of Five
Fostner Trading Group
Gold Slayer
Trading Upsurge
Pay Day Loan Corp
KazPoos Profit Place
World Impact
Campbell Creek
Stable Income
Please Invest

My weekly paying programs at the moment
Treasure Island group
10% x 15 weeks
D E L T
Status Credo
Cyber Grow Invest
Match the Batch
Cooper FX
Money Maret Exchangers
The 773 Club
Long 4 Gold
Tranquil Tradings

Autosurf
Instant Cashsurf



http://www.v-rodforums.com/forums/i...milies/kuku.gif


Posted by: Vera250

I said I am in 1 autosurf, and 1 PTR....the rest is HYIP.....and that's the list of paying programs I posted there....

I thought that was the topic to post the whole list of programs that are paying me right as we speak!!!
You can also check out my websites.....see my sig.


Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust



Posted by: golddust

Vera, just a matter of miscommunication; you are currently in all those 'programs' (listed) as well as the others you posted in this thread? That's er, a LOT. I didn't count.
http://www3.b92.net/ipb_images/styl...default/huh.gif


Posted by: Vera250

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Vera, just a matter of miscommunication; you are currently in all those 'programs' (listed) as well as the others you posted in this thread? That's er, a LOT. I didn't count.
http://www3.b92.net/ipb_images/styl...default/huh.gif


Yes I am in all these programs, at the moment and they are all paying me daily or weekly!!!!

Some of them for months and months.....so you see...there are good and long term paying programs...
That doesn't mean that they will never stop....a few...(who aren't on the list now, of course)....actually stopped a few weeks ago....and they were programs that no one expected to stop ever....

But believe me I had my share of scams too...and still do.....but since earnings are higher than losses...I do pretty well...

However it took me almost 2 years to be where I am now...and I'm still learning....and I'm still a small fish in the water.........but I'm a good swimmer...upstream...;-))..LOL

I just got an idea...I will add the joining dates to the programs that I'm in...on my websites...so that way...people can easily see how long a program is paying.

Vera


Posted by: golddust

I understand your method. Many HYIPers play the odds by joining so many programs. Whatever information you can share about the programs you are in is helpful. Not everyone is so good at playing the odds though, so please avoid listing the very high return programs that have paid you, but are likely not going to survive long enough for others to reach profit.
Feel free to start threads!


Posted by: Vera250

Many programs I'm in are low % programs like 2% x 70 days....0r 3% x 50 days...some don't even have refprograms...so there's nothing in it for me...I only want to share some good programs.

It's always a bit of luck involved how long a program will survive...
Of course the high %...they don't last very long....that is really a game to play...get in...and get out when you're in profit....

I can post a number of my programs....but it is no guarantee that they will survive...or even keep on paying.
What I posted earlier...only a few weeks ago a great program that was paying way over 1 year weekly..never missed one payment...had to stop....

I took me almost 2 years to build up some profit, and staying in profit..
Maybe that's the hardest part...

I'll check a number of my longest payers, and will start a few threads...
But here's the thing.....I often started threads also on other forums....but many reactions are like....show us proof.....did you get paid...duh...when I say I am being paid since 6 months or so...then why ask such questions...
I'm keeping my websites up to date...remove the NON-payers....and add new ones that I joined...but I'm not going to post proof of every single payment I am getting....would take me all day to do so.

Meanwhile I want to compliment you and Web-life forum....
I see good communication here, good threads, and I'm still not finished reading here.

I think I'll stick around for some time to come......if that's OK...


Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
I understand your method. Many HYIPers play the odds by joining so many programs. Whatever information you can share about the programs you are in is helpful. Not everyone is so good at playing the odds though, so please avoid listing the very high return programs that have paid you, but are likely not going to survive long enough for others to reach profit.
Feel free to start threads!



Posted by: golddust

Thanks for the comments Vera250. I'll warn you there are some critical and skeptical opinions from MODS here, but that is what we do. It is in the best interest of our members to shout out the red flags and the good paying programs both. You are right, there is no guarantee with any HYIP how long they will pay. Smart HYIPers should always get profit and get out or only reinvest profits.
Greed is still the number ONE reason people lose - theirs, or the programs' admin.


golddust


Posted by: shahzadmasih

Hi, This post is very informative, however I would like some specific information. If someone can help me then please send me a private message. Best Regards,


Posted by: golddust

shahzadmasih, welcome to Web-Life. Specific information about some of the programs listed here can be researched by using the "search" feature in the upper menu bar, and by reading the Folders for "New and Existing Programs" and "Long-term Paying Programs". This is a good place to start at least. Don't be afraid to ask questions about any program, but do try to stay with the topic of the thread.


golddust


Posted by: online2invest

well i am in feelhappy's private investment club
and fx in
these both sites are paying me!
feelhappy's investment club has low returns but reliable programe as i know him personally ...
you can check his programme too.....


Posted by: golddust

online2invest, have you started a discussion thread about "feelhappy's private investment club"? If not, maybe you should and provide a link so others can become familiar with it and consider adding it to their portfolio.


Posted by: XmasHYIP.Org

Trading, besides being trained, you have to be trained in the mind first. In the market, sometimes the worst enemy is yourself. Do visit my blog and read some of the tips that I share with fellow traders out there by clicking on the label "lessons to learn". Besides the technical and fundamental aspects of trading required, you need to learn to use different strategy to balance off your whole approach.


Posted by: golddust

XmasHYIP.org, what gives with your username? It is not representative of someone trading.


Posted by: surfmyster

For me diversifying is very frustrating. 2 programs is fine for me. Online-Capital and TrafficSideways. TrafficSideways is an autosurf and my Mom's need for my help lately has caused me to not be very active in that. Bless my mom's heart. She wants to get a computer. She is 83 years old and still wants to learn new things.


Posted by: golddust

One of the pitfalls of AS programs - clicking every day. Best to find a program where you don't lose earnings if you can't surf everyday.
Have you tried Tramael? http://www.web-life.org/vb/showthread.php?t=10093

Good for your Mom - no reason age should keep her from learning new things.


Posted by: nunulka

Quote:
Originally Posted by surfmyster
For me diversifying is very frustrating. 2 programs is fine for me. Online-Capital and TrafficSideways. TrafficSideways is an autosurf and my Mom's need for my help lately has caused me to not be very active in that. Bless my mom's heart. She wants to get a computer. She is 83 years old and still wants to learn new things.

Great to read about your mum, I agree with golddust, no reason to stop learning new things in the age. We cannot but admire your mum. Please say "hello" with good wishes to your mum for us.


Posted by: surfmyster

nunulka and goldust.......Thank you for the good wishes for my mom.

I'll have to take another look at Tramael.


Posted by: lazygirl

I'm only with a few programs at the moment. Traffic sideways, Attractive Surf, e-gold Instant and 2 private programs... and Life Holdings..


Posted by: derrekmay

Do they pay out good?


Posted by: golddust

hello derrekmay. Welcome to Web-Life. Lazygirl can update you on the status of these programs. I am only familiar with 2: e-gold instant stopped paying, and Life Holdings is in the process of refunding some members who do not have the minimum spend, and paying others to get back on track.


Posted by: cuongnet

oh, good job!


Posted by: bellimala

I have joined more than 20 programs which are eight autosurfs,Leisure audio books,Data entry business, Web colleagues,Marketing pond,Free store club,Build referrals,Paid to clicks,etc. But I have not received payment until now.


Posted by: golddust

bellimala, there is an expression - " throw a lot of stuff up on the wall and see what sticks".... is that what you are doing?http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i...oticons7/10.gif


Posted by: cuongnet

Spam deleted.



Posted by: Pete Berg

I said very honestly that i have no program yet,and also these programs are not related to me.


Posted by: nunulka

If you have no program yet, no need to post about it Pete Berg


Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by nunulka
If you have no program yet, no need to post about it Pete Berg
he is just here to expose his signature..


Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete Berg
I said very honestly that i have no program yet,and also these programs are not related to me.


If not related to you, why put them in your sig?


Posted by: Offshore-Wealth.com

Interesting,

So given the time that has past since I last followed HYIP's, so how is everyone doing? In my research, having been burned on the only HYIP I through money into, it appears they are all scams, not to say you can't make money in some if in early, but I have seen no evidence of any lasting more than 18 months, so it makes sense why some have invested in over 20 at a time, and 50 over a year.

Happy Holiday Season to all, Mike


Posted by: golddust

Nice to see you again Offshore-Wealth.com. Veteran HYIPers have always known what newbies are now quick to realize, (or should be). Eventually all HYIPs are going to stop paying, there is little truth to any of the money making methods proclaimed, and it is very difficult to choose a program that will be around long enough to make profits.
Given these truths, still there are earnings to be had, if 'playing' with skill.


Posted by: derrekmay

Hello,

I was looking around where I could invest some of my money.
And after a few trials and errors I have finally found a system that generates a good profit.
First I was a little bit sceptical, but they gave me a good feeling so I invested and till now it works fine.
If you want you can follow up my results, because I'm goin to post them everyday on my blog.


Posted by: lazygirl

Im in just a cfew programs now. RTA and Atractive Ads are the 2 main ones at the moment for me....
Rta has neen around almost a year now and still looks stable.....


Posted by: golddust

I have really cut back on my program base too. After the holidays, people owe money, so less available to put into programs, and more likely the scammers are in the same position, thinking "other people's money" will pay their bills. There are a few that have remained stable throughout the holidays I'm interested in, maybe.


Posted by: forwardone

This is an oldish poll, perhaps it`s time for me to make a new one?

Somehow I suspect the numbers will be much reduced from what they show in this one.


Posted by: golddust

A new poll would be excellent!

My participation remains pretty constant though.


Posted by: lazygirl

all I've left is a couple of private programs. everything else I was a member of has eventually died (but I'm in profit).


Posted by: forwardone

Sorry, I ought to have put the link here. I started a new poll a week or so ago.

http://www.web-life.org/vb/showthread.php?t=13038



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