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Posted by: scrapage_online

www.wiredsurf.com

look at the features of the sites, their other business aside from autosurf. DO you think this can survive?

The site is impressive at first glance of their promotional and site looks.

8% daily for 16 days.



Posted by: lazygirl

I joined this one a few days ago and I must say it looks good so far. And it looks like they put a lot of effort into making the website. they are now changing servers (already) due to the huge amount of people that joined in just a few days. here is the maeesage:


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http://www.wiredsurf.com/wsurfw_trans.gif


Haven't You Heard...?

We are moving to a powerful and stable Rack Host dual-dedicated account, so that we can better serve you, and ensure that you are always able to access our website. If you are seeing this page, it simply means that, we haven't completed uploading the files and databases to the new servers yet, or your ISP hasn't yet updated so you are still seeing the old server. Since we are currently migrating, you will see this page until the site has been completely transferred, which won't take very much longer, or until your ISP updates.

We appreciate your support and understanding that this isn't yet another typical moving servers excuse, but rather a surefire way to ensure that our program can continuously grow without limits.

And speaking of growth, In less than a week we outgrew two dedicated servers! So setting aside the server problems we experienced because of it, we are very excited about our program, and are thankful that you've noticed the unique aspects that we worked so very hard to implement.

So rest assured, after we are completely moved over, we'll be in good hands with Rack Space. They are known as the hosting industry's expert provider, and have assured us that this new dual powerhouse we're running on can handle anything this industry throws our way.

We're almost there..









Posted by: damien_k

http://www.wiredsurf.com/wsurfw_trans.gif

For those who were unable to surf today, you will be credited due to the fact not all users are able to access our website since it has not fully propagated yet.

Our program will be fully functional by tomorrow morning, after it has been updated around the world.



Posted by: clifton

The site is back. The surf is still buggy, but i know switching hosts is a pain.



Posted by: scrapage_online

upgraded today but my account still showing up $0



Posted by: lazygirl

surfing is still disabled tonight.......



Posted by: golddust

This program has so many good features which I think will help it survive the onus of being an "autosurfer" if the authorities decide to classify them all as ponzis due to the latest.....

With all the planning however, you would think they would have seen the server capacity as a concern right from the start.
Before they changed servers, my upgrade was credited to my account. I don't think this will be an issue when the servers have completely resolved and the databases are online, but always good to check that right away.

golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

surfing is fixed now and account was credited for yesterday also...



Posted by: scrapage_online

my ticket was resolved and credited for my days that i cannot surf.



Posted by: scrapage_online

members are counting so fast



Posted by: scrapage_online

first wave of payment are out already, maybe this is the news that many people are waiting before they join in. but we should be still careful.



Posted by: golddust

There is much anticipation about WS, but in a 'prospective' way. I have a a few more days to surf before an upgrade expires. I will post, but I expect by that time, "paid" will be common news.


golddust



Posted by: scrapage_online

me too, and upgraded a little more



Posted by: clifton

Mine expires tomorrow. Will see how long to get paid. So far it looks like wired will be good for at least one another cycle



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
Mine expires tomorrow. Will see how long to get paid. So far it looks like wired will be good for at least one another cycle


"One another cycle?" Clifton, why do you have such limited faith in this program?


golddust



Posted by: scrapage_online

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
"One another cycle?" Clifton, why do you have such limited faith in this program?


golddust


that is okay golddust, not too much faith in the program. but clifton, maybe not just another cycle let's make more cycles so that we can profit on this one after those 12dp issues.



Posted by: clifton

I have limited faith in all programs, pals But when you hear me to say "at least one another cycle" you should read it as "this is a very, very promissing one"



Posted by: scrapage_online

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
I have limited faith in all programs, pals But when you hear me to say "at least one another cycle" you should read it as "this is a very, very promissing one"
LOL

nice one



Posted by: lazygirl

one of my upgrades was due to expire today (7th March) but it is still active and I still surfed and earned from it. not sure what's going on.



Posted by: scrapage_online

To increase overall performance and to keep up the speed in which we
process payments, we are going to temporarily remove EMO as an option to
withdraw at Wired Surf. While members will still be able to purchase
ad packs using EMO, we will focus on e-gold withdraws for the time
being.

For those who wish to receive payment into their EMO accounts, you can
simply log into your EMO account and link your new e-gold account to
it. Once you have done that, you can instantly transfer your e-gold into
your EMO account.

If you don't yet have an e-gold account, please sign up for one
(instantly) at http://www.e-gold.com

You will then have to log into your Wired Surf members center to update
your profile to include your new e-gold account number, if you had
previously selected EMO as your payment preference.

If we find that offering only e-gold as a form of withdraw does not
help with time management and overall functionality, we will add it back
to our site, but for the time being, we accept payments via EMO and
e-gold, and pay out via E-gold.

Thank you for your understanding as we work towards continuing our
organized method of payments, and in improving our program.

Richard Allen
Wired Surf
http://www.wiredsurf.com



Posted by: clifton

First payout received. I am in for next cycle



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
First payout received. I am in for next cycle


received payment yesterday. waited less than 1 day after upgrade expired.

and upgraded some more.



Posted by: scrapage_online

upgraded also,

but referral system now seems not ok



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by scrapage_online
upgraded also,

but referral system now seems not ok

there does seem to be a problem with the referral system.
if someone clicks your link and doesn't sign up immediately, they
will not be in your downline. must be a problem with their cookies or
something.
BTW I've been paid a couple more times by Wired Surf and there
is over 7000 members now.



Posted by: scrapage_online

that is true because i have one confirmed that he signed up under me but then i dont see him in my downline and the support says he is a downline of someone else.



Posted by: clifton

I'm waiting a bit too long for withdrawal - since 24th. I know they say 7 days, but it still makes me a bit nervous, because the withdrawals were much faster the first time. Probably a sign of a slowing ponzi, so i doubt i will respend



Posted by: golddust

I was paid almost immediately after first upgrade expired, and w/in 48 hrs from second upgrade expiration. I have 3 in my downline and have been paid commissions on 2, one is a free member.
Apparently there is some kind of 'Voting Club' to join which supposedly speeds along payouts. I only became aware of it after my 2nd payout, so I don't know really how much influence it has. I have not heard of any people waiting more than a few days for payout Clifton, so why don't you post to the forum?

golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

well, my payments have always arrived within 3 or 4 days and usually less.
so have many of you joined the Voters Club yet? I haven't....



Posted by: golddust

Next time I surf I am going to check this out. It must be contained in the forum. I haven't visited there but a few times.

golddust



Posted by: clifton

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
I was paid almost immediately after first upgrade expired, and w/in 48 hrs from second upgrade expiration. I have 3 in my downline and have been paid commissions on 2, one is a free member.
Apparently there is some kind of 'Voting Club' to join which supposedly speeds along payouts. I only became aware of it after my 2nd payout, so I don't know really how much influence it has. I have not heard of any people waiting more than a few days for payout Clifton, so why don't you post to the forum?

golddust


You are probably right. Someone also advised me that they pay faster to these who vote there. Anyway, i'll waiut the 7 business days first



Posted by: lazygirl

have you seen the new plan at Wired Surf?

Quote:
Our new system featuring 15% per day for 9 days is finally active!

For a complete breakdown, please read this thread available at our forum (you may have to register a forum account before viewing).

http://www.surfingwire.com/forum/sh...12005#post12005

If you have any questions relating to our new system, we have a thread set up for you to be able to post your comments or concerns.

We are really excited about our new system and we have already seen a surge in member activity, which is encouraging to us all. We have many other plans and upcoming features in store, and will take all suggestions contained within our forum suggestion box very seriously, so let us know what you would like us to add next!

We also have some great contests in store for our entire forum community, so if you haven't been active on our community board, now is certainly the time to spend a few minutes each day reading our topics. We will soon launch an exclusive Scratch and Win card system where you will have a chance to win cash and prizes.

Here's a quick glimpse into our new future:

1) Cash & Prizes awarded through a variety of fun and profitable contests.

2) Network site, Wired Promotion will be revamped and relaunched featuring Wired Surf merchandise and more!

3) Network site, Auto Surf Bootcamp will present a free e-book to upgraded Wired Surf members only. This e-book will teach you everything you need to know about the entire industry and will help you triple your existing income easily.

4) Scratch & Win card system, unique to Wired Surf, will become available early next month and will not cost you anything to play!

5) When our debit card program launches, we will offer THE most affordable cards in the industry AND will work with all our members to ensure that everyone can take advantage of its features and simplistic interface.

6) While our Pixel site hasn't been as successful as we had hoped, it was only a small part of a much bigger idea. Watch out for exciting promotional offers that will become available to our community as our partner site, Wired Inbox launches next month.

7) If you are active in multiple auto surfs (and you should be), you will find our upcoming -Managed Surfing- website remarkably useful, and best of all, if you are an active Wired Surf member, these services will be absolutely free! Look out for the launch of this website in early June.

8) Our Insta-Pay feature is similar to a competing website, but our fees are as low as we could go, to enable all of our members to be able to receive their payments faster! Enable the new Insta-Pay feature from within your members center (Click on MY ACCOUNT to view this new feature), and you will receive your payment within 48 hours! The fees associated to the Insta-Pay program appear in our updated terms of service available at http://www.wiredsurf.com/tos.php

9) We don't believe auto surf programs should venture into their own payment processors, especially with so many failed attempts in the past. However, that doesn't mean our payment options won't improve! We are constantly looking for new but stable methods in which to send and receive payments, and Wired Surf is currently investigating two new options. Details will be posted in our forum as soon as our team has finalized the details.

10) We want to create a fun an interactive community and rather just have you log in, surf and log out, we want to keep you awhile Wired Surf will be working on developing a new area that will feature e-gold games and other fun options where you can win cash and prizes! We hope to have this launched in early June.

With all of these upcoming features and activities, we are focused on putting the fun back into your auto-surfing. And with a solid business plan in place, we are working hard to continue bringing you one of the most professional auto surf programs available online.

It only gets better from here!

Sincerely,

Richard, Cameron, Jane, David & crew
Wired Surf


PS: Don't forget to check out our forum thread for a complete breakdown of our new system!







Posted by: clifton

I hear of people not being paid. Not sure it is the best time to join this new plan



Posted by: golddust

You do not have to join the new plan, but by paying a percentage, it is supposed to assure that a member will be paid in priority fashion. This effectively ends the need for the "Voting Club", where members were paid within 48 hrs after making the rounds on forums and monitoring sites to post paid.
I haven't heard complaints about people not being paid, but having to wait the full 7 business days before getting paid.
This was the case for my last payout... I am not planning on using the Insta-pay plan. I can wait, and egold fees are still less than the percentages they are charging for the service.

golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by clifton
I hear of people not being paid. Not sure it is the best time to join this new plan



no I don't think that is true. some people just don't read the terms.
there seems to be a renewed interest in WS now and payments are quicker.
and their fees for Insta-Pay(to be paid within 48 hours) are lower than PS.



Posted by: forwardone

Another one earning a good reputation.



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardone
Another one earning a good reputation.


hopefully they can recover from the DDOS attacks soon.
here is an update:
Quote:
DDOS ATTACK

Last night we posted this on our blog as it was the only way to communicate with our members:

DDOS ATTACK UPDATE

We have received information from RackSpace. Apparantely, our website will be down for 24 hours and then accessible again.

Here is the email we received:

_____________

I regret to inform you that we have been forced to null-route the ip address due to the amount of traffic that was incoming to your server.

It appears that they were sending over 80MB/s at your website, which was to much to be able to block with conventional means, the ip address will continue to be null-routed for 24 hours, at which point should be accessible again.

If you have any additional questions or concerns please let us know!

We will therefore call every day until the site is back up a free surf day. Members will only be credited when the site is back online since all administrative areas are now inaccessible to us. All payments through Insta Pay for today will be paid as we have an offline copy of pending payments, however Insta Pay payments for tomorrow will only be able to be paid when the site comes back online.

Please be patient with us, as we continue to work with Rack Space and resolve this issue.

__________________


It looks as though RackSpace has stopped the attack and we're back in business. Our surf bar will be activated this morning and you will be back to surfing.

Usually DDOS attacks can take a site down for days, but this shows just how capable and professional the team at RackSpace is, and we're truly appreciative.


The Cash Box Program

Our team has created a member appreciation program, that we've called, THE CASH BOX. This program rewards members with cash prizes as well as free coupons enabling the to use the Insta Pay program at no cost.

If you would like to find out what our new member appreciation program is all about, please visit this thread for details:

http://www.surfingwire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1753

We have a feature page displaying the Cash Box program as well as a special question and answer sheet set up for those who want more information.

The Cash Box program does not cost you anything and you are not required to do ANYTHING in order to win cash, other than to stay active.

Here's to a new month and an exciting summer ahead!

Richard, Cameron, Jane & David
Wired Surf
http://www.wiredsurf.com





Posted by: golddust

WS has now had 4 consecutive "free surf" days. This has to hurt the profits. I continue to suggest that a "pause" feature needs to be implemented in all AS programs so that members can take time off, without losing credits or earnings by essentially freezing their account. Also their ads would not be shown.
Likewise, the program admin may utilize the same feature to "pause" all accounts, while doing fixes to their programs.
If they can't provide the service, something along these lines could be put in action. OK, so member will have delayed earnings and payouts, but it is better than having a program go down while paying 'as usual' and creating losses from which they may not be able to survive.

golddust



Posted by: evans.maurice

Just waiting to be paid now...



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
WS has now had 4 consecutive "free surf" days. This has to hurt the profits. I continue to suggest that a "pause" feature needs to be implemented in all AS programs so that members can take time off, without losing credits or earnings by essentially freezing their account. Also their ads would not be shown.
Likewise, the program admin may utilize the same feature to "pause" all accounts, while doing fixes to their programs.
If they can't provide the service, something along these lines could be put in action. OK, so member will have delayed earnings and payouts, but it is better than having a program go down while paying 'as usual' and creating losses from which they may not be able to survive.

golddust


yes, that would be a good idea. wonder why no surf sites use it yet....

I'm waiting on a Insta-Pay that expired from today....



Posted by: golddust

I've seen some posts that the site is back up, and other posts indicating it will be back later tonight. In any event, WS reports that it will continue to process expired upgrades. Yesterday I had an upgrade expire.
With all this down time, I wonder how long it will take to receive payout.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

it was up for a short while earlier on but down again now.

but they say tomorrow is the days they'll be fully functional...



Posted by: golddust

It's been going on a week now with that prediction...



Posted by: golddust

After getting the site back up and getting almost caught up on payouts, today I am finding "404 - page can not be found".
I was able to get the page up briefly, but it didn't last, and can't get it back, using both - http:// and https://.

I hope this will not be another extended outage as previously experienced.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

just letting you know that I received all 3 pending paymnts a few days ago and upgraded again... and my mini downline are alsp upgrading again..



Posted by: golddust

Your cooking lazygirl. It's good to see WS seems to have taken care of all the expired upgrades while they were 'gone'. I was able to get back onto the site a little bit ago and finish up surfing. I'm working toward my next upgrade before the current one expires.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

decided to upgrade again in WS.... and there plans for a big giveaway in June. read it here:
Quote:
Our newest progress report is now available on our website and depicts just how much progress we have made as well as how we are planning to take our program to the next level.

Despite the negativity that surrounds this industry, there really is a big difference with our company. You are treated like a friend, you are protected by our dedication in keeping the program alive, and you are an important part of our network and community, and you will always be respected as such.

Are you still on board? If so, visit:

http://www.wiredsurf.com/onboard.php

Did you give up on us? If so, visit:

http://www.wiredsurf.com/outta_here.php

____________________________________

The $20,000.00 Giveaway!

How would you like to win a free $7,000.00 upgrade? We are giving away over $20,000.00 in free upgrades throughout the month of June!

Details are available ONLY on our forum to registered members:
http://www.surfingwire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2619
____________________________________

Signature Rewards:

Find out how your signature on external forums could win you a free $20.00 upgrade!

http://www.surfingwire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2621

____________________________________




Posted by: golddust

I went over to the WS forum and dropped a little hint about looking at other forums for SIGs.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

paid again for 24th May expiry. upgraded again..



Posted by: lazygirl

some news:
Quote:
Wired Surf Closes..

- Read more at: -
http://www.surfingwire.com/forum/

Click on "Important News/Wired Surf Closes" for details.

Sincerely,

Wired Network
http://www.wiredsurf.com





Posted by: golddust

This little announcement 'almost' had some people feeling faint.

golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
This little announcement 'almost' had some people feeling faint.

golddust


it certainly got people's attention. I upgraded again anyway. here is the latest update:
Quote:
Earlier today we sent out an email with the subject: Wired Surf Closes...

It went on to give a forum link, where if you had continued you would have been given the following article:

Wired Surf Closes.. .. the gap on the remaining payments and expects to be completely caught up by the end of the week. We are also keeping up with current payouts as well, and will continue to work continously on rebuilding our network.

We have a lot of things in store, as we have mentioned before and we can not wait to re-energize the industry with some of our unique ideas, including our "Surf Pals" program, where members of Wired Surf won't even have to surf to earn!

We will also be fully launching our Cash Box program on June 1st, so be sure to read all about it at http://www.wiredsurf.com/cashbox.php

What else are we up to? As you may have heard June is the month for free upgrades and prizes. With our $20,000.00 giveaway, active members will be given the chance to win cash, prizes and free upgrades! This thread is available in our Important News folder and will be updated to include additional prizes later in the week.

It's been a rather quiet weekend around the forums due to the Memorial Day holiday, but we hope to see things pick up tomorrow!

All the best!

PS: Hope the subject line of this thread didn't scare you =) - After all of our hard work? We aren't going anywhere!

_______________________________________

In any event, our little Memorial Day email that was created to capture attention, backfired on us and MMG ended up putting our program into their closed folder (people don't seem to take the time to actually follow links to read updates it seems).

Wired Surf is NOT closing, and in fact we are moving ahead, stronger than ever. We apologize for the email and should have been a little more careful with those who might just take the subject line to heart, rather than follow through to read the notice.

It seems our little email attention-grabbing gimmack didn't work out the way we had planned!

The link to the forum post was: http://www.surfingwire.com/forum/sh...23374#post23374

Sincerely,

Cameron
Wired Network
http://www.wiredsurf.com




Posted by: golddust

If I was the one who did that over at MMG, I'd feel pretty dang dumb. As it is known, MMG strongly supports another AS program so it probably seemed like one quick way to quash the competition, and a good idea at the time.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
If I was the one who did that over at MMG, I'd feel pretty dang dumb. As it is known, MMG strongly supports another AS program so it probably seemed like one quick way to quash the competition, and a good idea at the time.


golddust


yes they were very hasty with putting it in the "on Hold" section. then they tried to pretend it was done as a joke.



Posted by: golddust

Of course it was ~a joke~.



Posted by: sonituswebiz

WiredSurf says that they will be fully recovered as of 6/19/06 with all pending overdue payments. I sure hope so.



Posted by: lazygirl

I was paid on Friday or Saturday for an upgrade who expired on 1st June.

and I upgraded again in WS...



Posted by: golddust

I have been looking for a payout from 6/2 lazygirl, perhaps later today. Also have another pending. I sure hope they get caught up on payments according to the 6/19 date. I am not upgrading 'all' ROI at this point.


golddust



Posted by: golddust

Here's the reason for the payment delays:

Post from the site:
June, 12th 2006 7:15pm

Quote:
Wired Surf Is Now Closing...

This email is sent to you with a very very heavy heart, and trembling fingers. Wired Surf has become our pride and joy, and through the obstacles and tribulations that we have endured, we believed that we could rise above it all and recover our program, a program that we believed to be one of the best in the industry.

We had many sleepless nights since our DDOS attack, wondering how we would ever recover our program after such a large-scale disaster. Putting hours and hours into the site, earning very little if anything at all for our labor, we gave everything we had to the network and to the idea that we would be able to continue to offer you the most honest program in the industry. We offered unmatched support, and always went the extra mile to show our members that we were there for them.

Despite all of our attempts, Wired Surf has encountered the biggest obstacle of all. Continuing along the path to recovery hasn't been easy, and we have always known, it was near impossible. It was easier to continue to believe that if we were honest, if we were upfront, and if we ran the program with the community in mind rather than our own pocketbooks, that it would be successful. Quite frankly, we have put off sending this letter to you because we kept hoping for some miracle, some solution to this ever-growing problem that we just can not overcome.

Wired Surf will be temporarily closing its doors, and we ask that each and every member of our program takes a second to visit our forum and read our "Personal Letter to Members", because it is the most important notice that we have ever posted, and one of the most difficult.

http://www.surfingwire.com/forum

Click on IMPORTANT NEWS .. and then LETTER TO MEMBERS

If you have trouble accessing our forum, please let us know via the help center and we will do all that we can to help you gain entry.

Sincerely yours,

Cameron, Jane & David
Wired Surf


Post from the forum:

Quote:
Personal Letter To Our Members

Dear Members,

It’s been a difficult month. We’ve encountered various problems, not least of which: a severe DDOS attack that essentially destroyed our ability to function for weeks, a flood of tickets and emails that pushed us further behind, outstanding payments that could not be paid due to inaccessibility, and of course the repeated attempt to recover from the chaos, to no avail.

This has left Wired Surf in the uncomfortable situation where things are just not moving forward like they should. After long discussions, we have decided to close our program for the time being until we are able to resolve all of the issues that have plagued our community for weeks. Our initial plan was to reactivate Insta Pay, offer compounding to those who requested it and pay out all existing payments by the deadline originally set by our company. After weeks of working 12+ hours a day, with a very limited team, we are forced to be realistic and push aside our desire to save the program by realizing that it has become absolutely impossible to move ahead as quickly as we had hoped.

Please understand that we had not given up on our program even when it was evident that things would probably not work out the way we had planned. Despite the negative posts, the frustration from our community and intensive amount of work that was required by all of our staff, we had high hopes that our program would be able to repair itself and move ahead. However, that is not the case, and it is time that we confronted the fact that no matter what we do to try to give new life to Wired Surf, all of the previous obstacles that we were faced with, have made it literally impossible to move past.

However, Wired Surf has no intention of abandoning our community unfairly. We had the option to take our site down when our DDOS attack occurred, yet we still ploughed ahead paying members the moment we were able to access our administrative panels. And we will continue to respond to members with honesty and fairness, as we always have.

As many of you know when EMO went down, we continued to pay our members utilizing over $85,000.00 of our reserve pool. Then, when our site experienced weeks of downtime, we utilized hundreds of thousands more that were generated over the previous months from our outside investments. While fighting off the attack, purchasing expensive software to protect ourselves from further attack, and paying out daily for weeks with limited activity coming in, we have not been able to replenish our reserve fund as quickly as is needed in order to be able to stay on top of payments, and rebuild our program. In addition, despite our attempts to recover the program, activity has ceased, and it has had a tremendous impact on our ability to continue.

In addition to all of the obstacles we attempted to overcome, and the continuous "dipping" into our reserve funds to encourage recovery, Wired Surf has also experienced several significant investment losses this month and last.

What we are left with is the option to either continue to fall behind with current and outstanding payments, struggling to create enough revenue to replenish our exhausted reserve fund, and possibly losing your trust by not being able to meet deadlines and promises, in order to stay productive. We all know this is not the way our network would ever want to operate, and so we feel it is best to temporarily close our doors until we can:

1) Refund members who have pending or outstanding payments that were not in profit with Wired Surf..

2) Re-organize our business plan and restructure it accordingly in order to meet our obligations and to move ahead.

3) Replenish our reserve fund/pool before we re launch our program.

4) Ensure that our site is absolutely protected and possibly moved to a hosting company that better caters to our requirements.

5) Add alternative options for payments and ad purchases, as e-gold is becoming increasingly unreliable, and more people are losing money through unauthorized access/hacked accounts each day.

By temporarily closing our site, it gives us time to repair the damage that occurred, and to take care of existing accounts instead of adding additional work from new accounts and upgrades. It will also give us the opportunity to replenish our reserve fund which is essential to a programs success.

There are also other factors that hindered our ability to restore our program that many of you were not aware of.

1) Our e-gold account was accessed by unauthorized parties and depleted shortly after our DDOS attack, resulting in the restriction of our e-gold account and no assistance from E-gold itself. This happened before our attack and once after. We didn't let this stop us from continuing to pay out nor did we notify our community because we have seen this scenario used as an excuse far too many times by other surf programs. It did of course, harm us and in the end contributed to our current situation.

2) Our website/scripts and databases were accessed by non-authorized parties immediately before the DDOS attack occurred. When our site was back online, we discovered that our script had been downloaded, leaving us open to the possibility of further hacking. Part of our script was destroyed leaving large parts barely functioning (as many of you were aware of), and other internal problems. We worked hard to resolve the issues and were still working on them today.

There are many factors that have led up until this point, all of them out of our control.

As for refunds, we will be following this format:

Our initial round will begin with us refunding 50% of your principal, meaning that if you upgraded $100.00, you will be refunded $50.00. Remember, this is a percentage of your original upgrade amount, and not what you would have earned surfing.

We will ONLY refund those who are NOT in profit with our program, meaning that those who are at a loss will receive this partial refund in our initial round of payments while those in profit may be contacted at a later date, pending there are funds available in our reserve pool.

In our secondary round, we will analyze the remaining funds, if any, and disburse them to the members who had initially received 50% of their ad purchase amounts, once again, focusing only on those who are not in profit.

At the conclusion of our secondary round, any remaining funds in our reserve pool will be paid out to members with pending payments who are in profit with Wired Surf, regardless of their payout history.

We will keep our message boards online even with our website closed and unavailable for new account signups, however access to current and existing member accounts will no longer be available after June 16th, due to the new system being created and tested during our process of recovery and refunding.

When we re launch, all members will be asked to create new accounts as not only will our program be entirely different, our script, our access center and our payment system will be optimized for better performance in the future. We do however, have a copy of the database which we will use to properly refund our members.

It has been a great experience for all of us, but we hope you understand that continuing Wired Surf at this point would lead to much greater complications. We have done everything humanly possible to keep the program alive, and we don't believe that anyone would disagree, regardless of the frustration or disappointment in our temporary closure.

Sincerely,

Wired Network


I suppose this has taken most by complete surprise. It shouldn't. It was unwise to payout members during all the outage from Ddos. Stopping payouts and surfing credits during the downtime would have been reasonable and understandable. Consider this outcome. 20/20 hindsight.

I can see where compounding got me - stiffed on 2 payouts. I'm finished with surfing for the summer. It is too hard to keep going day after day. Without doing the math, I still believe I am in profit, not by much.


golddust



Posted by: forwardone

That`s bad news from their Admin. Should this be moved to `closed` then?



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardone
That`s bad news from their Admin. Should this be moved to `closed` then?


I'd say move it to closed...

ah shit, more bad news...
maybe it's time for me to take a break from the surfing industry. there are very few worth spending in at the moment....



Posted by: clifton

They gave really a lot of "hints" for closing. I hope noone here lost a lot



Posted by: golddust

I agree with lazygirl, I'm going to wean off of surfers. IMO the whole industry is a burnout as long as it can only be sustained by daily activity by members. This business model is self defeating. Until the programs start to allow for "suspended" days for members and for the program, programs will continue to fail. Such being the case with Wired Surf.
Those who lost the most probably took the nibble on compounding as I did. It was a calculated risk in consideration of how long payouts were taking. If I had not compounded, I probably would have been paid. Ah well.



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
I agree with lazygirl, I'm going to wean off of surfers. IMO the whole industry is a burnout as long as it can only be sustained by daily activity by members. This business model is self defeating. Until the programs start to allow for "suspended" days for members and for the program, programs will continue to fail. Such being the case with Wired Surf.
Those who lost the most probably took the nibble on compounding as I did. It was a calculated risk in consideration of how long payouts were taking. If I had not compounded, I probably would have been paid. Ah well.


hmm.... glad I didn't compound. I knew it would be very risky. escaped with a small profit, I think...



Posted by: sonituswebiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazygirl
hmm.... glad I didn't compound. I knew it would be very risky. escaped with a small profit, I think...


I should have known better than to keep upgrading with this program... Ah well, it did take a different turn than what is the norm which is shuting it down after the DDOS attack. I as well as many others did really think that the program would recover but far to many people were hesitant to keep upgrading.

If it is of any value to others who may read this thread to know that if members of WS did indeed have the ability to put a hold on their accounts. Then they could surf later leaving more money in the program to help build up the reserve pool.
That and anti-hacker security features that would warn members if their account security had indeed been compromised and freeze it in suspended animation so admin could find or thwart hacking. The whole mess could have been avoided entirely...

Something really good is bound to come out of all of this mess and I for one am willing to keep doing my best to make it work.

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again.



Posted by: golddust

sonituswebiz, Welcome to Weblife. Sorry to hear that you were subject to the WS lesson in Autosurfing. I hope that many people are starting to realize it is not sensible to continue to upgrade when payouts keep getting longer and longer, especially when a program has had the problems WS did.
Naturally, this is driven by first getting seed money out and second by profit, otherwise known to some as greed.
Most AS programs don't last any longer than HYIPs it seems, and because of the high rate of return for short duration, it is human nature to continue to upgrade to continue the rate of return. Does seem to burn a little more, doesn't it?


golddust



Posted by: sonituswebiz

Glad to be here, hopefully I can be of some assistance to members of this forum.

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Naturally, this is driven by first getting seed money out and second by profit, otherwise known to some as greed.

Yeah your right there were some greedy people and a few unscrupulous ones as well. That was apparent when WS started to give out refunds and it is true that those kind of people never win.

I on the other hand have been patient about the whole matter at hand and have just received a 50% refund on my inital investment, profit not included. I also don't AutoSurf or invest to be greedy but to help others and to help myself as the end result.
Regardless of the fact that WS is shut down, I still come out in profit!

I'm just smart is all, I'm motivated by the idea that I don't have to work a JOB like everyone else and just the thought of it sickens me. I'm not about to throw away 7 years of my life to give up and go back to the daily grind, that's just not my style.

Good luck to you my friend



Posted by: golddust

I also am in profit, but feel mislead by the opportunity to 'compound', when all this did was delay the inevitable inability to pay. On this basis, I feel the need to plead my case to WS admin, as it was based on their offering of this option, I took the "bait", knowing under the circumstances, it was a gamble. It was a "last ditch" effort by WS admin, but an offer meant to intice members to speed their spending/earnings, rather than wait for a payout.
Not a very nice thing to do to members, and very unfair to all members who made that choice.


golddust



Posted by: sonituswebiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
I also am in profit, but feel mislead by the opportunity to 'compound', when all this did was delay the inevitable inability to pay. On this basis, I feel the need to plead my case to WS admin, as it was based on their offering of this option, I took the "bait", knowing under the circumstances, it was a gamble. It was a "last ditch" effort by WS admin, but an offer meant to intice members to speed their spending/earnings, rather than wait for a payout.
Not a very nice thing to do to members, and very unfair to all members who made that choice.


golddust


I agree with you on that WS should have never gave members the option to compound earnings. So you did not get a refund yet GoldDust?
I'm glad I did not fall for the "bait", did not have a good feeling about using that option. Also I am very surprised that I actually got money back, but don't dispair just yet, you may get some money. That is unless you were in profit already or in profit for a long period of time, as I was when 12dp failed. I don't even expect to get money back from that whole fiasco because I made out with about 8k in profits.

Where in Colorado are you from?
I'm from Lakewood.



Posted by: golddust

No I don't expect a refund. I made a 16% profit. Doesn't mean I am not going to gripe about the compounding issue though.


golddust



Posted by: golddust

Latest news from Wired Surf:

Quote:
Since Wired Surf is closing down and we are in the process of issuing refunds, we have decided to give other auto surf program and forum administrators the ability to advertise to our community in the form of:

Banner ads on the front page of www.wiredsurf.com
Banner ads within the members center.
Solo email ads sent to our entire database
Banner & Text Ads on SurfingWire.com AND our forum.

If you are interested, spaces are available for a very limited time. Contact us at admin@wiredsurf.com for pricing and details.

In addition, we are interested in selling the following domains:

www.wiredsurf.com
www.surfingwire.com
www.managedsurfing.com
www.wiredpromotion.com
www.wscards.com
www.wiredinbox.com

If you would like to find out more concerning the sale of any of the above domain names, please contact us at the email address above for details or to place an offer.

Payments accepted via E-gold only.

If the domains are not sold privately they will be placed within an Ebay auction starting early July, 2006.

The Wired Surf script will also be for sale on Ebay only. This is a custom script unlike anything else in the industry. To be notified of the auction, please add your name to our mailing list by writing to admin@wiredsurf.com and indicating "Notify me of Script Auction" in your subject/or body fields.

Sincerely,

Wired Network

Note: All revenue generated from the sale of domains, scripts or advertising goes towards replenishing our reserve pool for our new program available in July.

For those interested, our new program including URL will be available only on the Wired Surf blog, available at http://www.wiredsurfnews.blogspot.com when it becomes available.

Cameron and Jane will also be working on creating their own Auto Surf Informational Site, which will be featured at http://www.autosurfhub.com and will include AS tips, information about the industry from behind-the-scenes, insider-secrets, the anatomy of an auto surf scam, Auto Surf Big Players, and much more.

Auto Surf Hub will open in early July.

Note: The Auto Surf Hub is NOT the new program that will be available through the Wired Network and it owned and operated by Cameron & Jane only.



Making the best of what remains. The autosurfhub.com site may be interesting reading.


golddust




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