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Posted by: golddust

This program is offered by the same admin - "Andy" , who runs XLOSurf.
XLOsurf is one of the big survivors in the AS industry, over 8 mos running now.
The Finer things is a high risk program, however, if it performs as described, it could very well become another Golden Rocks, (JMHO).
The program offers 80% ROI after 30 days. The total return to your account is 180% of your spend. This is not a surf program, it is a High risk / High Yield opportunity. Payments are made after 30 days, to your egold account.


http://xlentxtra.com/forum/
http://xlentxtra.com/




Posted by: patacon

Thanks for the news!! I am going to watch it !!



Posted by: golddust

Payments for referrals are sent right to your egold account, no waiting, and you do not have to request them.


golddust



Posted by: nunulka

180% after 30 days is very interesting. But it seems to me very high. What is the minimum investment? Maybe Iīll join.



Posted by: golddust

The min is $25.



Posted by: nunulka

Ok Iīm in with $25



Posted by: patacon

Quote:
Originally Posted by nunulka
Ok Iīm in with $25


Im too !!!

Wish me luck !!



Posted by: nunulka

Quote:
Originally Posted by patacon
Im too !!!

Wish me luck !!


Good luck!

Let me know if you have been paid



Posted by: patacon

Quote:
Originally Posted by nunulka
Good luck!

Let me know if you have been paid


Thanks nunulka !!

2006-09-18 is my day of payment, that day we will know the truth.

Bye



Posted by: golddust

Some opinions are that this one will only last a few cycles however, Andy the Admin gives me every impression that he has tried out his method for making this return. Given that he also has other programs going, I am optimistic.
However, with such a high return, it is easy to get through one cycle and then redeposit just profits, of course depending on the amount you initially spend.

golddust



Posted by: nunulka

I have deposited $50 now. So, I will get paid $90 and then I want to reinvest part of my profit ($25)



Posted by: golddust

This is a good strategy nunulka. Essentially all that matters is getting a return that will give you the min to reinvest. Some people I know are taking it further by making more deposits, and using the same strategy of redeposits.



golddust



Posted by: golddust

Payouts have begun for the members who first spent in this program. I have been PAID.
Could it be.... the NEXT Golden Rocks???


golddust



Posted by: nunulka

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Payouts have begun for the members who first spent in this program. I have been PAID.
Could it be.... the NEXT Golden Rocks???


golddust

Thatīs great! Glad you got paid
Iīm waiting for my first payout. 9/16 is the date of my payout



Posted by: nunulka

I canīt load the site right now. Has anyone the same problem?



Posted by: golddust

There were issues with the server earlier today. I believe they have been resolved now. This effected Finer Things and XLO Surf.


golddust



Posted by: nunulka

now works fine and thanks for the info http://forum-navigator.com/forum/in...s/smiles/26.gif



Posted by: nunulka

Iīm happy. Got paid too! This one is really good

http://gfx.real-time.cz/upload/9228904118950434.jpg
http://gfx.real-time.cz/upload/1903406360934153.jpg



Posted by: golddust

Congrats, nunulka. IMO, this program can be counted in one of the more trusted and visible category. I will enjoy the profits, but lessons from GR, don't get greedy about rolling the profits over and over. Take some out, diversify and put some back in.
Most important thing is to enjoy some, even if it just means taking care of a lingering bill.
Relief is enjoyable.


golddust



Posted by: nunulka

golddust
I absolutely agree with you.



Posted by: nunulka

paid again and reinvested $25
I recommend this one but if you invest, use your common sense

screenshot
http://gfx.real-time.cz/upload/3388240015686556.jpg



Posted by: patacon

Paid first time and reinvested too!!!

Good luck !!!



Posted by: nunulka

Congrats patecon. I believe we will get paid again



Posted by: nunulka

received another payout



Posted by: lazygirl

soon I will receive my first payment here in TFT. still looks good...



Posted by: golddust

Received today:


Quote:
We will be moving the server for The Finer Things to a new datacenter. This move is to help improve access for the XLO Surf program which is located on the same server.

The move to the new datacenter will mean increased speed for The Finer Things - which will improve access for everyone.

The move is scheduled for Thursday 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM SERVER time.

What will happen is that the site will be offline for at least 8 hours - probably 16 and maybe 24 hours.

We will continue to make payouts while the server is offline but you cannot, under any circumstances, spend to the e-gold account directly. Just wait till the site becomes live again.

One additional point.

Many members are spending every day and it is possible that the website will be down for a good 12 hours (the time frame is uncertain). I have also made it very clear that the max per day was subject to review. So what we will do is - when the site comes back live - the max individual spend of 2k will stay but you will be able to do that twice a day if you like (the daily max will be $4,000 USD)

If you are not a member of the forum at www.xlo-tftforum.com please join up as we will be posting updates there throughout the day.

In summary - The Finer things site is scheduled to go offline at 9:00 AM SERVER time Nov 2 - which would be 8PM EST on 1 November 2006. We expect it to be back up and live by 11:00AM (EST) on the 2nd.

To further complicate matters - e-gold is going to be offline for scheduled maintenance from 5:30 PM - 9:30 PM EST on 1 November. Payouts will be made around that downtime...

http://www.e-gold.com/unsecure/downtime.html

Please post your questions in the forum so that others may benefit from the answers.

Thanks for your patience and your support.

Andy


Really do have to appreciate an admin who always communicates, and usually with plenty of advance notice.

There is also a notice for XLOsurf here:
http://www.web-life.org/vb/showthread.php?p=43709#post43709




golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

received my first payment in TFT today......



Posted by: golddust

Good to hear lazygirl. I've been paid on 4 spends so far, waiting on 2 to mature. I've learned that some pps are making weekly spends.



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Good to hear lazygirl. I've been paid on 4 spends so far, waiting on 2 to mature. I've learned that some pps are making weekly spends.


I've heard of some people who've made a spend every day so eventually they will receive a payment every day if all goes according to plan...



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazygirl
I've heard of some people who've made a spend every day so eventually they will receive a payment every day if all goes according to plan...


And a good plan it would be! Many people did this with Golden Rocks and made a lot of profit. Certainly would make 30 days go faster.



golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
And a good plan it would be! Many people did this with Golden Rocks and made a lot of profit. Certainly would make 30 days go faster.



golddust

so do you still think it's safe to spend here now, goldust? I made a small spend this week and was just wondering what was your opinion?



Posted by: golddust

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazygirl
so do you still think it's safe to spend here now, goldust? I made a small spend this week and was just wondering what was your opinion?


Even Andy the admin is known to have said "find your own comfort level"; this said as he does not provide details as to how he produces returns.
He also runs XLOsurf which has been going strong and steady for 10 mos, and I believe has an offline business. He attends to every detail of both programs and pays almost immediately with both programs. He has a separate forum to further establish a rapport with members. I am 'comfortable' with his operations.... but this IS HYIP. Spend only what you can afford to lose.
(IMO, it is a good risk).



golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
Even Andy the admin is known to have said "find your own comfort level"; this said as he does not provide details as to how he produces returns.
He also runs XLOsurf which has been going strong and steady for 10 mos, and I believe has an offline business. He attends to every detail of both programs and pays almost immediately with both programs. He has a separate forum to further establish a rapport with members. I am 'comfortable' with his operations.... but this IS HYIP. Spend only what you can afford to lose.
(IMO, it is a good risk).



golddust


well I can certainly afford to lose the amount I spent here so i'm not too worried. it's just small money...



Posted by: nunulka

Today received from Andy
Quote:
I have just been notified that e-gold has placed a balance limit on the spend in acct for The Finer Things.

This is a little bizzare as the contact information is correct - I have called e-gold twice thus far and will continue to do so until this is resolved.

What I believe has happened is that The Finer Things was linked (vis the Money Maker Group) to some crappy failed program - there were posts on that forum where members of the other program were complaining.

It now appears as if someone has complained to e-gold that we are not paying - hence the value limit.

We have created a new acct to accept spends - while I get the situation with e-gold resolved. (Thus far two phone calls - I will just keep trying...)

You are more than welcome to come to the forum to comment on this situation - and I do welcome your feedback.

I will keep everyone updated.

Thanks for your support

Andy




Posted by: golddust

Rec'd today:

Quote:
I have just been notified that e-gold has placed a balance limit on the spend in acct for The Finer Things.

This is a little bizzare as the contact information is correct - I have called e-gold twice thus far and will continue to do so until this is resolved.

What I believe has happened is that The Finer Things was linked (vis the Money Maker Group) to some crappy failed program - there were posts on that forum where members of the other program were complaining.

It now appears as if someone has complained to e-gold that we are not paying - hence the value limit.

We have created a new acct to accept spends - while I get the situation with e-gold resolved. (Thus far two phone calls - I will just keep trying...)

You are more than welcome to come to the forum to comment on this situation - and I do welcome your feedback.

I will keep everyone updated.

Thanks for your support

Andy


It really is such a pity when an excellent program and Admin is harrassed like this. Next thing you know, those attorney-vultures will be trying to freeze the new eg account for not paying.
Andy is very smart and wise in this HYIP world, but dealing with egold can try ones' soul.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

I reckon ANdy can fix this little problem. I think he's still trying to contact E-gold...



Posted by: clifton

Quote:
Originally Posted by lazygirl
I reckon ANdy can fix this little problem. I think he's still trying to contact E-gold...


That is strange. You don't really need to try contacting them, it is easy to do it. And usually they do respond



Posted by: golddust

The Finer Things and XLO surf are both offline. I heard from Andy late last night that he was waiting to hear from the "host". I haven't checked the XLO forum yet, but since both programs are still offline, I assume this is still the problem.


golddust



Posted by: nunulka

Some people made a spend to wrong account number 3779012 and Andy refunded all those spends that went to the hacker!!
Quote:
Sorry this has taken so long to get written

OK Last night (my time) at around 2:30 am it looks like there was a brute force attack on the server and someone managed to sneak ina wrong e-gold acct for TFT. This was caught immediately but it took me just a little while to get it fixed and a half dozen or so spends went to the wrong acct.

When he changed it he changed the text on the page so the members who did get caught had no idea it was wrong and I am buggered if I am going to have our people pay the cost of this person

These people have all been refunded from my own pocket.

The hole that this little person crawled through has been patched and now nailed shut.. ( I had notification at the time that spends were going to a wrong acct - it just took me a little while to get everything fixed.)

I am considering options - including moving the whole thing offline (after all you know we dont need the database to pay out) and that will foil any malevolent person completely. However a final decision hasn't been reached yet.

Everything is ok - but there are nasty people who infiltrate the web... WE WILL and (HAVE) be making sure the doors are locked a little (lot) tighter.

Thank you for your patience - and your support.

Andy

Thatīs very kind of him.

Btw: paid for the fourth time and reinvested part of the earnings



Posted by: golddust

Thanks for posting the latest news nunulka. I'm all for going private; I hope he will seriously consider this.


golddust



Posted by: patacon

Hola amigos !!

TFT continues strong as always!!

I have received my payment today!!!

Good-bye



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I just joined them and my payment is due on 12/16, hope they continue for a while.



Posted by: nunulka

I think it is a good choice, Hardlyworkin. This program is one of the best now. I have already earned good profit here and I donīt regret joining TFT.

Golddust, thanks for the recommendation of this great program.



Posted by: golddust

I believe everyone should be able to earn some profit from this program, it is not hard to do, and easy to plan your stategy to build profits. I see NO reason - and you know I DO LOOK - not to take a chance on this program. The admin does everything to protect his programs and members, and he ranks very high on the list of "Best Admins"... granted this is a very small list....

golddust



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

I'm in golddust I hope you are correct (you usually are) about the future of the program.



Posted by: golddust

Thanks HW. Good Fortune to you!


golddust



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Let's hope that it lasts as long as Offshore Club did.



Posted by: golddust

Longer!



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Time will tell golddust.



Posted by: patacon

Another 80% in my e-gold !!

Thanks TFT !!





Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Good for you patacon glad to hear it.



Posted by: golddust

Congrats Patacon. It IS good to hear.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

paid again last week and there's a few more coming soon.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Let's hope that it continues for a while lasygirl.



Posted by: golddust

I have a few biggies coming in the next week. I set up my Christmas fund.



Posted by: nunulka

I have received another payment. I am very delighted and also my referrals are very happy to have joined TFT. This one is on the top of my "hyip list" right now.



Posted by: golddust

I just rec'd a nice ref commission. I guess while on the topic of paying, I was also paid for my next spend, not expected until tomorrow. Taking into account Andy's location, maybe I was due to be paid. I've seen posts from others who have also been paid early.
This definitely puts me into the holiday spirit!


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

I was paid today by TFT too. and there's more coming soon.

I'll reinvest most of it again....



Posted by: golddust

THIS JUST IN:

Quote:
Hey there

With the growth in The Finer Things some of you may have noticed some web slowness - and every now and then a spend does not make it into your back office.

So effective immediately we have decided to make some changes - which will help protect the integrity of the program

TFT will no longer record the spends in an online database

What does this mean?


1) All spends from now on going forward will not be entered into a database therefore they will NOT show in your online account - you will not have an online account any more

2) Previous spends will not show in your online account. (This facility will be removed very shortly.)

3) There will be two ways to spend to TFT

a) Directly from your egold account to TFT egold account 3763976. No confirmation email will be sent for spends made this way.

b) The same way you always have. Login to TFT and there will be a spend page. This page is not attached to an online database. If you spend from this page you will receive a confirmation email.


4) New members are still asked to sign up at the website so that we have a record of email address to notify of program details.

5) All terms remain the same except one. There will no longer be any referral bonuses.( ) Tracking referral payments under these new arangements will be too cumbersome and time consuming.

6) Payouts will be done after the maturity time expires, which is 30 days. You will now need to keep track (of your new spends) via your egold history.

7) As before, there is no requirement that you ask for your payout. They will be done automatically upon expiration.

Why we decided to take away the TFT back office.

There are a number of factors in making this decision. The strain on the server processing - with both TFT and the partner program XLO was meaning that more spends were not being processed through to the database in TFT.

Additionally- by taking the program "offline" we are immune to various sorts of "online" attacks. We will pay to the egold acct you spend from - there is no possibility of your TFT account being hijacked by anyone else.

These changes take place immediately - and any spends that are went "missing" today - and have not been returned will fall into these new arrangements.

Please come along to the forum at www.xlo-tftforum.com and make your comments.

As always we welcome your feedback and support.

Andy



Andy is really working to resolve the server load problems. I support taking down database access, for the good of the program and security. Everyone should be able to sort their TFT spends through their egold record.
Sure did like those referral comms though, and the good feeling of referring others to a GREAT program.


golddust



Posted by: lazygirl

paid again on Tuesday. made a new spend too...



Posted by: golddust

Also rec'd another payment on Tuesday, respending only profits now.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Good for you golddust. Hopefully I'll be in that position soon.



Posted by: nunulka

Paid by Andy today and of course reinvested part of that. Christmas is drawing near. Merry Christmas to all TFT fans.



Posted by: golddust

Script changes at TFT:
Quote:
As you would all be aware TFT payouts have been continuing as per normal - many of you have utilised the "spend direct" option; this certainly gets around any issues that there may be there.


This is an excellent feature!



Posted by: nunulka

I still use the old way for making a deposit and getting a confirmation email with the date when I get paid.



Posted by: golddust

Many members have commented that is is preferred so a record of payment is received, and then can be used to determine when the next payment is due.



Posted by: nunulka

Posted by Andy

Quote:
There is going to be a twofold change to TFT.

We have had a few problems with the earning vehicles used for TFT. My sense of why is connected to the recent actions of e-gold and a perceived dropping of confidence in them. Comments by many that e-gold was going to close has added to the general decline. While this is not my position - the way that we used to generate returns has been steadily dropping. Looking for the right alternatives is a daily process.

Steadily dropping returns has meant that some incoming were used to pay existing obligations.

The decline started early December and accelerated throughout the month. This has caused a cash flow issue .

Within the HYIP arena there are such things as private placements - they tend to be "those things you hear about but never actually eventuate." My reading and research has shown them to be real - but previous to now I have not been able to access one directly.

This has changed over the last little while.

The reality part is that I cannot say a whole lot about it but I can assure you and reassure you that I have done my homework.

This opportunity (high risk though it is) is one that I plan to capitalize on.

The downside - the placement fees are high - we are talking serious money here.

So after much discussion here is what I am going to do.

All available TFT funds are to be diverted to this opportunity. This amount still does not meet the minimum required so the following will happen.

Payouts will stop - for the course of the trade.

TFT incoming spends will go to the placement.

TFT will close on 3 January (1 week)

ALL spends (all existing/outstanding ones + all new ones) will be paid in full as of January 31.

To be clear - no more TFT payouts till Jan 31 then EVERYONE gets paid.

Additionally a place in the forum will be set up for those who wish to participate more directly in the placement. Access to that is going to be at my discretion. I cannot empahise enough that this is a private offer. I cannot and will not dicuss publicly.

Participation will be via e-gold - that doesn't change.

Maximum amount to invest is under review.

One more thing - once the amount needed to participate is reached all offers will be closed. We will not accept more than we need. Period.

Now this is not a "going private" thing. It is an opportunity to pool funds to participate in a private arrangement.

I also know (extremely well) that this is going to cause some discussion dissention crtiticism etc. I accept that - just as - on opening the program I accepted the responsibility to generate the returns to you in the most efficient manner possible.

To head off queries -the most obvious being could TFT continue - based on the current (right now) trend - No. Could we trade out? I was and am going to try - and this is the option I have decided upon.

Are refunds available - No they aren't.

I had previously stated that if and when TFT closed everyone would be happy. This closure is sooner than I thought - but I am adjusting to the circumstance.

It is my real belief that although the delay of payout until 30 days may cause some (a lot?) of pain for some, the fact that the program will payout every member in entirety is a plus.

Now the other thing I need to mention. I reckon you have heard this spiel before - I think I have heard things along similar lines. Why should you believe me? To answer that I can only say that I am going into this trade openly and will keep people posted along the way as to progress. I am not closing the forum - nor XLO (which is it's own distinct program). I am working to provide each and every one of you the return you were after - circumstance has dictated that this will take longer than originally thought.

In closing - I take full responsibility for this decision. I understand that is not going to be popular to all - but it is my thought out and considered opinion that it is the best option for everyone.

Your comments are always welcome.

Andy

Now we all will be paid on all existing spends on January 31, will receive 180% and the last spends will be accepted on January 3, right?



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

That's the way I interpret it. We'll see what happens on Jan 31st I guess.



Posted by: golddust

So, this explains why I did not receive a payout due yesterday...
This is unclear to me, probably because Andy wasn't prepared to address all the details.
I am not sure what this means:

Quote:
ALL spends (all existing/outstanding ones + all new ones) will be paid in full as of January 31.

Does this mean - the spend amount only, 180% or the ROI of the Private Placement?
I would need to have this clarified before putting in another spend. On the other hand if any spends made between now and Jan 3rd will payout 180% on Jan 31st, then that is dandy.
I'll be heading over to the forum to get the details.


golddust



Posted by: Xerom

Quote:
Originally Posted by golddust
This program is offered by the same admin - "Andy" , who runs XLOSurf.
XLOsurf is one of the big survivors in the AS industry, over 8 mos running now.
The Finer things is a high risk program, however, if it performs as described, it could very well become another Golden Rocks, (JMHO).
The program offers 80% ROI after 30 days. The total return to your account is 180% of your spend. This is not a surf program, it is a High risk / High Yield opportunity. Payments are made after 30 days, to your egold account.


http://xlentxtra.com/forum/
http://xlentxtra.com/

It is great! Is it paying now?

To me is very interesting, why he opened HYIP which ROI is lot more than on XLO surf...



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Here is an update by Andy on Jan 1st:

The announcement of changes to TFT - along with plans for the future - has led t a general out pouring - some of it information- some of it grief and anger. I do understand the whole range of emotions - and I have left everything as open as possible so that you can have full access to vent.

The plan that I had been looking at was extremely high risk - as many of you were only to happy to tell me. I agree - and I will also say that to recoup looses - or to attempt that - requires a high paying and high risk approach. It would appear that many are not happy with that.

A flood of emails and info ensued and I have been exploring various options. Some look very stable and attractive - but the bottom line is - without the huge risk that many are unwilling to take - there is no way that I can recoup and ensure payout for everyone. The plans are attractive - but - that will mean that the TFT program closes as of last week, and I will move forward with a completely new arrangement. No refunds - it is what it is.

Is that the update you wanted? I am sure it is not. However - having not given you the runaround thus far - it is not time to start now.

Assuming the above approach is adopted - there is going to be huge anger and a sense of betrayal. It is also quite possible that whatever I propose will be met with derision and scorn. If that is the case then - it would not be wise for me to even try to continue anything other than XLO.

All of the programs I am being offered require a minimum entry point - to meet that entry point more funds need to be collected. More research needs to be done (some offices are closed until Wednesday)

I also must emphasise that my initial update on TFT proposed a course of action that was huge in risk - but would have payoffs. That option is still available - but I am loathe to pursue it given the out and out reisitance.

Refunds are not an option - the risk was high - and this was made clear when you entered. I do not want to fall back on the old standby of "dont invest more than you can afford to lose" - such advice only rubs salt into the wound. I would simply say - it was high risk and the losses occurred such that the program can not continue.

This is as open an honest update as you can get. Right now NO decisons have been made - but the above outlines what I have in front of me.

In summary the options are:

Pursue an extremely high risk and unpopular venture - with no assurance of payout. IF however it succeeds then there will be all losses recouped.

Close TFT - and offer a new program. No refunds

Close TFT . No other program offered.

In all cases XLO continues ...

Right now I have more research to do on some programs I have been offered... I have to await the opening of offices and people to be back at work before I can finalise that.



Posted by: golddust

Something not quite right with this picture; Andy was willing to take the funds available to put into a "high risk" venture, but if this is not acceptable to members then change or close TFT - NO REFUNDS? What happened to the funds that were to be put in the high risk venture? Time to revisit the XLO forum.



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

The whole thing is very confusing but since outside of Andy it is out of our control I'm just going to sit back and let it all play out (whatever that end result will be).



Posted by: nunulka

I donīt like to do it but I think it is time to move to the "Watching and Waiting" section



Posted by: golddust

After spending a lot of time on the XLO forum, Andy has reported that only 3% of TFT investors funds remain !! I almost choked. It appears to me Andy waited way too long before bringing up the situation to members even accepting spends up until the announcement. He claims that the freeze of all Iranian accounts by egold, limited trading activities, (if anyone can explain that to me, I'd be grateful), and he also paid December matured spends from new spends, but he also claims this never happened before.
Then the whole PPP thing, no longer on the table due to investor concerns for high risk, and the amount of money needed to enter a trade. Back to square one as to how to make members whole, but of course members who just joined in December have 2 complaints; why wasn't there notification sooner, and they justifiably want refunds.... and so it goes in HYIPs.
But the announcement today that XLO surf is to be suspended for the rest of January so Andy can focus on TFT has left me cold with the suspicion that XLOsurf members funds are at risk.
After rising to the top of members admiration, this is sad. I won't even go into my rant on mistrust.
Nunulka, with all due respect to everyone's 'hope' for a recovery, TFT is not paying, and I doubt there will be any payout come Jan 31st either.
I'm going to move this thread....



Posted by: Hardlyworkin

Probably the best move to make golddust.



Posted by: forwardone

Pity, he seemed to have built up a lot of trust and respect prior to this.



Posted by: nunulka

Only 3% of TFT investors funds remain? That is not much, really. Agree there is a small chance we get any payout on Jan 31. Iīm not sure if TFT was a Ponzi the whole time or only the last month. We have no proof of trading, sports betting or any other activities as he said in the interview at the nobs site. Is there any point in discussing it? No.. We have no choice but to wait what happens. But now we know it is almost certain that we lost our money but not own if we used the right "Hyip strategy" : REINVEST ONLY PROFIT
I hope most of you did that way.

Golddust, I think you should move the XLO autosurf to the right folder too, if I am right. Please, do it.



Posted by: golddust

I encourage anyone who is a member of TFT or XLOsurf to get the latest information from the XLO forum: http://www.xlo-tftforum.com



Posted by: nunulka

I just tried to open the XLO-TFT forum but it doesnīt work.



Posted by: lazygirl

Quote:
Originally Posted by nunulka
I just tried to open the XLO-TFT forum but it doesnīt work.
not working for me either but I gave up on TFT some time ago...



Posted by: golddust

Yesterday I read on the Safelist Forum it was up, but not today.



Posted by: golddust

The XLO-TFT forum is now up, but Andy rarely posts anymore. He still has some diehard members, now classified as "forward thinkers" awaiting Andy's new program....
Otherwise, he is just getting roasted by most members who bother posting. A lot of drama over the sale of XLOsurf to Bob Krimm and TRIstar and where's the new program.
Also one post indicating Andy has been reported to the Australian Federal Police for fraud. Just another day in the life of a scammer, I suppose.




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