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Originally Posted by golddust
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We are committed to maintaining a viable honest program that is backed by trading in commodities; debentures, and other stocks of varying natures. We work with real traders doing in such clearinghouses as Smith Barney, Merrill Lynch, Price Waterhouse, etc. Our interests are to provide investors a real and steady return on their money, and we are not interested in paying unrealistic interest percentages as a means to gain deposits. We are here for the long haul not the short term and have a sufficiently large reserve fund to cater for our short term plans. Conditions: 1. All trading days are regular working days, US holidays and weekends are excluded from trading days, and there will be a maximum of 20 trading days per month that we will recognize. 2. Deposit of money to Elite can be by Ebullion or E-gold. 3. Deposits to accounts will be held in Trust, which will be our guarantee of your deposit money, and will be available for return at the maturity of your plan. 4. Presently there is no compounding offered, except where specifically stated. 5. Minimum deposit will be $25.00, there is no maximum except where specifically stated. 6. Rates, which include principle and interests, will be displayed as a percentage in excess of 100%. Example: (Principle plus 25% interests will be displayed as 125%) 7. Deposits that are $10,000.00 to $25,000.00 will earn 3%. 8. Deposit that exceed $25,001.00 will earn 4% Minimum spend is 25 and there is no maximum. You may make an additional spend as many times as you like. All transactions are handled via e-gold, E-bullion e-currency, E-bullion Gold, and Bank Wires. If you don't have an e-gold, or e-bullion account, you need to get one. Use our referral program and earn up to 1.00% of referral deposits! Achievement Plan: 6 Month Plan/40% - 80% Monthly + Principle at end Plan Spent Amount (US$) Monthly Profit (%) Plan One $50 - $9,999 40.00 Plan Two $10,000 - $25,000 60.00 Plan Three $25,001 and more 80.00 ***Success Plan (2 Weeks) Plan Spent Amount (US$) Profit (%) Intro $25 - $10,000 150.00 |
though in the TOS it is explained that w/ds can take 48hr up to 7 days. I expect when there is greater membership, it will take longer to w/d.|
Dear members, Our traders have an exciting new opportunity for you, it is a time limited investment, which will last for 3 days only. We can give you 175% for an investment period of 10 days. This will not last longer, we are already involved in this trading and we will make this money - with or without you. You are welcome to earn with us as these kind of trades do not happen that often. Come and Ride The Wave! |
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Originally Posted by nunulka
I would like to join and invest in this one but I´m a little afraid of that. Any opinions?
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To one and all, I hope that the prosperity you are receiving from our plans has enriched your lives, but we urge you to consider that we cannot offer these high returns much longer. It was our purpose for people to earn some extra cash so they could invest for the long term in the 6 month Achievement plan. I am sorry to say, that most people are not? We made a commitment to everyone to run an honest program, and from the start we wanted you to realize what can be gained on a long term investment. Please, I urge you to think about your future, steady and long lasting income is what you need and what you can achieve with the 6month achievement program. Don't let me down. I want to see more long term investments A.DiSondrio |
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Originally Posted by HighYield
Hi nunulka:
I know exactly what you mean, I was in the same boat as you and I actually put a small amount in on October 3rd, so I guess you and I will get paid almost around the same time. HOPEFULLY! If it makes you feel better on a forum called Talkgold there is almost 40 pages of positive posts, so I think we'll be OK. Cheers! |
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Originally Posted by HighYield
nunulka:
Did you get paid yet? And if so did you re-deposit or are you taking the money and running...... I have requested my withdraw and don't think I will go back in. I just don't have a good feeling about this one anymore. I only just got back to 'playing a few hyips' and my luck hasn't been good: lost with 'Gansta Bag and NOW I don't know about 'GreenMachine'!!!??? DollarMonster has been good for me -- touch wood and so has 14ForEver --so far. Fingers Crossed! |
Perhaps this will bring less conflict to SUF. Personally I feel that interaction with Francozz should be minimal no matter what 'capacity' or 'authorities' he is given.
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Withdrawals made up to 11-4-06 are in the old system and should be paid as planned. Please provide user name if there is a further request. Best Regards A.DiSondrio |
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Originally Posted by nunulka
Finally my support ticket has been answered
But I requested my payment on 10/30, it is more than 7 business days now and still not paid. I see some posts notifying that they are paying... I hope I will be paid too. |
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Unfortunately you are one of the people who fell through the cracks. I am terribly sorry. I have credited your account batch #70563192 46.25 US Dollars' worth of Gold Best Regards A.DiSondrio |
- on 11/21. Anthony did me NO favors when he finally credited my earnings that "fell through the cracks" into a combined credit, as the effective w/d date fell to the later of the 2 spends. Posted to both the forum and added to my 'support ticket' about this, but no evident consideration for this.| The minimal amount for a withdrawal request is $25. You must have an Achievement Plan totaling of at least a minimum of $50.00 to get a withdrawal. If your withdrawal is in excess of $350.00 and for every thousand-dollar increment, up to $5,000.00, there must be an additional $10.00 added to the base $50.00. For withdrawals in excess of $5,000.00, the requirement is increased to $20.00 per thousand to be added to the base $50.00, as a total of current AP’s or a new AP. (example: a $2500 withdrawal must have AP’s totaling $70.00, or must deposit into an AP to reach that level). |
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11-23-06 Just a short update before I begin a long day of eating; drinking; and watching a football game. Then it will be back to work the late hours doing reconciliations. We have decided to bring the site down on Thursday evening, during the holiday, and hopefully by mid-week next, or sooner, we will be up again. The forum will be our place of communicating, and updating. I have done a few payouts up to today, as I reconciled their account, and several of them were quite large, I’m not cherry picking, I doing the oldest first and proceeding in order. There have been many who have not been as honorable as our core group and they have been moved to the back of the list of payouts, and their accounts have been corrected. I want to thank the core group for your trust, and continued support. As I said before, it was you people who sustained me, and it is because of you that we must make EV bigger and stronger than ever. We have two programmers who will be working all weekend to undertake the task of repairing and testing the program so it runs properly, and so it will accept IE. As we have gotten to the core of the lines of code, it becomes apparent that the merger of some of the older information was somewhat responsible for our problems. I’m not a programmer, I’m just relaying the message, but it seems they were filled with worms and bugs that are activated by some innocuous acts. Never a dull moment!! As progress is made, I will update you all on our efforts. I see there is allot of concern over the referrals, and we have had several suggestions, one from, Takeaction, that I think has merit, but would rely on the honesty of the individual. Basically it would be set up so the individual put his own referral people in, maybe we limit the number of times that can be done that way, and add a confirmation acceptance by the person who was referred? This is in the suggestion stage right now, and is at the back of bus, in terms of priority. For those who celebrate the holiday have a happy Thanksgiving, and for the others, have a great day, and don’t fret, we will continue for a long time. CAVEAT EMPTOR. A. DiSondrio |
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11-26-06 UPDATE « on: November 26, 2006, 12:12:36 PM » 11-26-06 Update I just wanted to assure you that there are many people working behind the scenes to effect the changes and do the reconciliations that are necessary. The program will be made right and we will only activate it when we are assured that the glitches have been fixed and will not be reoccurring. I am thankful for the support and well wishes, and your continued patience. I foresee some changes that will affect everyone, but they will only be implemented for the assurance that EV continue and grow, as it was intended to do. There has been much speculation here and elsewhere as to specifics, and I am reluctant to inform anyone of anything right now. We must determine the cause, and implement a correction, and then we will be able to better determine the effect. As I write, there are two programmers working on specific modules of the program, and I am working on the preparatory information for the accountants who will do most of the actual reconstruction and reconciliation of accounts. Until we can provide the level of service you have become accustom to, we have disabled the withdrawal and deposits. Please do not try to force a deposit into our accounts, as I will not accept them until we are ready to operate again. You only make it harder to reconcile when you send a deposit that has not been entered on the site. If people persist in depositing to BOA, I will close that account. I am telling you not to deposit until we have a fully functioning program. Once it is up and operational it will be the signal to start your deposits again to EV. Thank You and best regards; A. DiSondrio |
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Originally Posted by golddust
Yes, of course nunukla
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I know TakeAction has been giving you all the information that he is privy too, and has relayed to you much of our conversations regarding all the issues associated with EV. His explanations have been very professional and accurate based on the circumstances at the time. We have, in addition to current programmers working on the program fixes, hired the services of a programming company to fix and test all the problems with the EV script and the mail interface. They will also be doing some additional work that is required so we can fully account for all the dollars used and paid for from referrals. I have realized that much of the problems associated with the program were created more by external forces than our internal interface problems, and were, to coin a phrase, “intentional”. A small node of information disappears, and it affects many other aspects of a program that depends on the credit and debits in an account, and is automated to self correct thereby perpetuating an erroneous account balance. Basically, one small issue can grow to be a huge mountain that seems unassailable, and is the ultimate goal of the originators to affect the disruption and disenfranchisement that results. The program issues exasperate the situation and bring us to this time and place. I have asked the Master Trader to sell our short positions and return the funds to EV accounts, so when the program is up and running I can make payouts. I am hoping this will happen prior to Christmas. Our long term positions will stay unaffected and be used to generate the returns required to make additional payments as time progresses. It is my greatest desire to make EV last for a long time and to rise from this tumultuous time stronger than ever. There will be changes made to best protect the interests of all, and to correct some of the problems that were made of our own doing because of our naivety in these online programs. There will be some who feel they were unjustly affected because of individuals who took advantage of the opportunity. No one person is being singled out as a result of our changes. I ask you all to understand that the returns paid by EV, and those we will continue to pay, are far above what you would earn locally. There is a desire by many to find the highest paying shortest term program there is, no matter the risk. We are unable to compete on a long term basis with these type programs, as they are not constructed for longevity. We must adjust our positions on all levels and look to longevity rather than mass appeal. I full expect 50% -60% of our investor base to dissipate upon the maturity of there plans because of our new policies. When this happens, and it will in the next few months, we will then have the true core group, and deal with them with a private type investment strategy that will be more rewarding. I pray you all understand. Best Regards; A.DiSondrio |
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Greetings, to all members of EV. On the eve of the holiday season I would like to first take the time to express my sincere thanks for your support and dedication to EV and wish you all a festive and safe holiday season. The programming company has made great headway in correcting the script problems, adding modules to the admin panel, and generally making a fully functioning program. The reconfigured software should be available very soon, so our site will re-open and be operational, except, as I said in a prior post, we will not accept new deposits until we have made some payouts and can rely on the operation of this program. Since our inception the entire program has been based on the premise that we are here to help the little guy and to perform a service that will be honest and long lasting. There have been many changes to this program including the internal operations. The politics in the organization had a definite pecking order, and the head has always been the master trader, for obvious reasons, without his services there could be no returns. Although many have professed to be solely for the betterment of the plight endured by many less fortunate people, the staunchest ally to those individuals has been Wolfie. She has fought anything and anyone that could be considered against the core concept of EV. She has taken her lumps on behalf of the membership, and paid for it dearly, both emotionally and economically. I must say openly, at times she has made me mad because of her uncompromising attitude, but I took solace in the fact that she was and is consistent in her dedication to the speakupforum, its members and EV. I and the other partners were openly adamant regarding the concept of EV, as we had been snookered by other programs that had touted their honesty and ability to repay, but none of us were as committed as Wolfie. Her commitment made her a liability to the Master Trader, and he used the payments to EV in a coercive manner to control our actions. Basically, if we were not in tune with his ideas on things than we were out and the membership would not be paid, if we said anything to anyone, the program would not be paid, if we disagreed with him the investors would not get paid and he numerous times threatened to walk out of the program based on his reliance in the TOS absolving him of any liability. Every time I confronted him regarding trading results I was chastised vehemently by him, and in his words, I was an ingrate. After all it was his money and his trading that kept EV going, or so he claimed. He tried making EV responsible for other sites that he set up, and relied on the reputation of Xelnagra1. After the sites were up, it was convenient that he now needed an admin, and of course he would ask “X” to maintain the sites until he found one. The operation of those sites were supposedly structured just like EV arrangement, the Master Trader would take the money by sweeping the accounts, and then the admin would ask for sufficient funds for payouts, and pray that you had done nothing wrong to anger him, as that would put you at the back of the list to receive any money. His plan was, and always has been for him to operate behind the scenes as the controller, telling everyone what to do, and staying free and clear of liability, and recognition. The master Trader would determine the structure of the plans, and when queried as to the percentage being paid, he would allude to the fact that it was more than sustainable. Until the support tickets started coming around the latter part of October, when payments were delayed, I had not realized the humanity of it all then after the November 3rd, 2006 incident with the script the clarity of the situation was apparent. At this time I was able to see the impact we were having on the everyday lives of individuals, and how supportive they were, even when they were in imminent danger of loss of personal services, homes, insurance, etc. You are people who through your everyday lives survive to make it another day, and do so year after year, yet EV offered them a bit of hope, a little reprieve from the deficit financing they were currently operating by in order to maintain the simplest of life’s necessities. It was at this time I made the conscience decision to make EV work, and to do what it took to make sure the members who were the most in need were serviced first. My plans were thwarted by the only person who had more authority than I, the Master Trader. He started withholding funds that I requested for payouts, and started making demands to put some of us in a position of liability, rather than he. Between the script problems and the site crashing in November, and the continual threats from the master Trader to extricate himself, shut the forum off, and not pay any investors any money, it became clear to me that I had to step up and take the Master Trader on in order to retain the information housed in the websites, and to assure there would be some avenue for investors to get some or all of the money they were promised. My resulting actions were to lock everyone but myself out of the servers, and to place my personal credit to godaddy to assure the payments of the monthly and yearly fees. This has allowed us to continue to stay connected and allowed me contact with the programmers to fix the script. I also locked him out of all the accounts he would sweep multiple times a day, the EV trust accounts, that were solely in his control. No one but he had access to those accounts. The story has many more twists and turns to it, but I am sure you can see from whence it was spawned. I have my suspicions regarding the timing of some of the events that have gone on and the demands made by the Master Trader. They were too coincidental? I will not leave, unless I am asked to by the members. I and others who have worked on this endeavor ask for your trust and continued support as well as your forgiveness. We should have stood tall and confronted the psycho paranoid tendency of the Master Trader, early on. Less people would have been affected, and assuredly, less damage would have been done, and EV would have ended on a sourer note for sure. I do have a plan, and have implemented such already, by taking what personal money I had readily available, and placing it with a new company that does trading for investors, who’s performance over the last ten years has been outstanding. I am doing this to generate some funds so I can start some payouts early February, and then every month there after. I will need to shut off accruing interests on current AP’s as of December 1, 2006. I have requested for the fourth time this month that the Master Trader return to EV, the residual deposits from investors that were in excess of withdrawals paid, as well as account for the EV funds sent to him for investment purposes. The funds owed EV by the Master Trader exceed the amount of matured plans and account balances currently showing as a liability in EV. If the Master Trader returns these funds EV shall have no problem paying everyone their entire account balances. We have come to a cross roads, I have given the Master trader every opportunity to make things right. I have withheld action hoping he would respond favorably. I am fully prepared to take the adversity that comes my way as a result of my efforts to secure from the Master Trader what is yours. I am sure he will try to besmirch me and coerce me, but these tactics only work if you allow them to. I will not empower him, but confront him to return your funds in a timely manner. Just so you all know, I do have funds with the Master Trader that were traded separately outside of EV, directly with him, and they also have not been paid. I was patient and non aggressive in asking why he had not paid me, as our arrangement had nothing to do with the EV site and it’s TOS that he was relying on? He became silent, ignored me for two weeks, and when I sent him the first of the demand letters, he replied by warning me “not to back him in a corner”. I have sent him an offer of a payment schedule, over a six month period, and have yet to receive a reply. I suspect there will only be silence. I have engaged the services of a detective agency that will provide my lawyers with sufficient evidence of liquidity, of that I am certain. Once this has been established our next course will be to proceed to enjoin him from further trading, and seize his assets. Just so you can be assured, EV will continue on with your continued patience. Best Regards; A.DiSondrio |