Rog 58 is a public program, but no site. The program is administered by "Rog" who has been around the HYIP arena for a long time, and since I have been around a while, I've known Rog for some time.
The program information is found by forum thread only, here: http://www.hyipdiscussion.com/priva...d-part-1-a.html
http://www.hyipdiscussion.com/priva...d-part-2-a.html
http://www.hyipdiscussion.com/priva...ited-offer.html

Personally I have become acquainted with his philosophy toward life. He has made a lot of money in HYIPs and is trying to help others do the same, and/or recover from losses. He is offering participation into a trading program that he has been involved with for many years by his own admission. There are 3 different plans.
1- pays 200% in 45-60 days
2- pays out 300% of your spend over 18 mos
3- pays out 32-50% mo for 12 mos

He is under NDA so he does not reveal too much info about the actual underlying trading programs; there are 2 different progams.
Please read the Q&A threads listed; the discussion thread itself is very long, but if you read it, you will see nothing but happy campers.
I got into it when the program was first offered, and of course am in profit.
I don't think it is "too late" for anyone to get in, but if anyone has doubts you can put a spend into Plan 1 and in 45 days or so, you will have 100% of your spend back and 100% to reinvest or whatever.

Rog sends confirmation of all spends, all Trade Options when they come due, and confirmation of w/d, rollover, or movement of funds into a different plan.

Good Fortune!!

golddust

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This could be even into "long time payers". Do you remember when it started, Golddust?

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You are right, it did start in Dec '05 I believe. I hope it just keeps rolling.

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Moved to "Long Term Programs". I see no discontent by members or any reason to feel uncertainty about this program. 'Course things change without warning, so it is wise to get in and take out your initial spend. This program is definitely helping my YTD stats.

golddust

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Members "options" notices have gone out for those eligible for the 1st of the month 'window' to -
roll
withdrawn
move funds into another Plan.


golddust

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i wonder what happened to Rog as far as forums go? He doesn`t seem to spend much time on the boards nowadays, but perhaps that`s because he`s looking after members money which is rather time consuming I guess.

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Except for the "rog 58" program folder at HYIPD, it seems Rog's 'forum days' are a thing of the past. I think he has all the interaction he desires from running this program, and I'm pretty sure he is making money in the process of handling these trades. He seems to thrive on what he is doing and kudos to him for being one of the "good guys".


golddust

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Rog has been exemplary in his deakings with the many investors over at HyipD. I have no idea how he keeps track of everything but as a former banker I am sure he has a great system in place.

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He's still active at HYIPD, althought posts mostly in his folder. I've seen him a while ago in bank debenture though

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This makes perfect sense, a banker's world must be kept tidy. Rog has also indicated that his son is involved and will take over the program should anything happen to him. But he is an Angel, nothing bad will come to him; this is his mission.


golddust

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Today Rog announced a problem with egold in verification over the account used to payout Trade 1. He does not anticipate anything more than a delay for a day or two to get this matter resolved. Unfortunately one of the payout dates is the 25th, so that does delay payouts for Trade 1 members only. That does include me, but I expect no problems.


golddust

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It is always worrying when an admin states such problems. Keeping fingers crossed. Have a few bucks in there!

I put a few bucks too, but never considered it more than a game, so whatever happens its all ok

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Most are 'games', or at least a gamble. Rog is a "vet" in the HYIP world and knows this. His program allows many to sleep better.


golddust

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I'm sure most of you know Rog's Private Offer at the HYIPD Forum.
Today Rog made the following post:

"Based on this period's Private Trading System's Volume and Performance, my Trade 1 Account Withdrawals on the 15th and 25th of each month were limited today (prior to my planned second withdrawal) until 1/15/07. This happens for a variety of reasons, including trading volumes, market conditions, system performance, and other factors. The good news is that most of 10/15/06 payments were done except for one small file.


What this means to you is that I will have to systemize the Trade 1 terms which I am working on now. The small group of participants who did not receive requested payment on 10/15 will receive an email from me regarding your options. Participants who are expecting a Trade 1 Options email on 10/15/06 for 9/1/06 roll overs, payments, etc. will also receive an email from me regarding your options.

I expect to accomplish these tasks within the next few hours.


Feel free to send me a PM or email at any time.

Best Regards,

Rog
rog58@s-mail.com
rog58@safe-mail.net"

That means he will not make any payments for Trade 1 until January 15th.
Most of us know that "investing" in Rog's offer was pure gambling.
Newbies should not put money in this game anymore.
Christmas time is coming soon and i'm afraid Rog needs the members money to buy some nice presents.
Rog is on the best way to be a hot candidate for the "scammer of the year award".

cyrano

Probably a time to write his offer off. Should we wait to see if the other "trades" will be paying normally?

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Rog is a clever guy and i'm afraid he is able to offer his "trades" for a long time.
I've played Rog's game too and received a small profit.
From a $100 spend i have to receive $800 on November 1rst.
2 hours ago Rog sent me the following email:

"Trade 1 Options - $200 Balance Due

Trade 1 roll overs will be limited to one roll over per spend every 45-60 days until 1/15/07.

Trade 1 Options for your spend made on 5/26/06.

Please reply to this email and let me know which option you choose:

1. Transfer All or Part of Your Balance Due Into Trade 2 effective 10/15/06
(You will receive 16.67% per month for eighteen (18) months for a total of 300%)

2. Transfer All or Part of Your Balance Due Into PPP1 effective 10/15/06
(You will receive 32% - 50% monthly for a term of one year)


Best Regards,

Rog
rog58@s-mail.com
rog58@safe-mail.net"


That means he reduced my roll overs from 3($800) to 1($200) and forced me to join another program with less interest.Using these tactics makes it possible for Rog to play his game for a while.

cyrano

Rog never hid the fact that he would not be able to offer T1 forever. I suspect that he exceeded the comfort zone from the source of this trade. From the dedicated thread at HYIPD, though there are many question citing confusion, Rog has not come back on the board. Apparently many members are pm'g him.
Because Rog also stated this: --
it could be that this task is taking much more time/effort than he realized.
There are many things that 'could be' reason for Rog's silence after posting this message, including preparation for a dash with the cash. I prefer to give him a chance to make his presence known when he is able to more fully explain the ramifications of T1, especially since I have 2 spends in T1. Like a good HYIPer, I long ago took out my profits so the continuance of this program in any fashion still offers a good return.
I think it is very premature to call it a SCAM. To respond to Clifton's post, yes I definitely think we should wait to see if the other plans continue to pay as promised.

golddust

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I'm convinced that Rog is a gambler and liar but i "like" him.I told him my opinion several months ago.He betrays his clients in not telling them the truth.If Rog would have offered his plan as a game,he would have been honest.Do you really believe in his story about the trades he is involved paying him for almost 10 years????
There are no trades paying these high returns for years.Rog's offer is a pure game.Nothing else!
Most clients,including me, have no problems with that.Don't fret about the word "scammer".We are surrounded by them and deal with them every day.
I have a ripping good time following Rogs tactics and with his chosen delay strategy of cutting down all accumulated Trade 1 roll overs to one cycle Rog should be able to pay for PP1 and Trade 2 for a while.

cyrano

Me - not I have not followed the hyipd thread last 2 days, but before that there were rumours that the other "trades" are paying - can someone confirm? If none of the 'trades' are paying, we should move to watching and waiting

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