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10-25-04, 09:04 AM

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The BI-II Boat Has Sunk

From BI-II`s latest update it looks as though things are now getting back to normal.

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Greetings:
Just a quick note to let you know that the BI-II Admin can get back into the database. It appears that our server provider was the one that was hacked.

Please do not make any spends until AFTER November 1, 2004. We need time to make sure that the accounts were not tampered with, and it will help if you would hold off spending for the time being.

On November 1, 2004 a 3% spend will be made to each account presuming we can do it manually. Mr. Kimo is working on that little problem and hopefully by then it will be resolved. 3% will then be spend to each active account every 10 days thereafter.

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11-17-04, 05:17 PM

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I thought this an interesting post at TG. It was made by the `Skipper` (the Admin).

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It doesn't really matter how much a plan pays, as long as the bottom line is: IT PAYS.

BI-II is the vehicle for 'old' Bonded-Investing members to recoup their funds that were lost. We are an Administrative Team that had noting to do with that loss, but are here to recoup those lost funds for its members. The mission ends on July 4, 2006, and at that time all members that joined between June 04' and October 4, 2004 will receive a LUMP SUM payment based upon the residual earnings over the term. Others that join with us AFTER October 4, 2004 are receiving 3% every 10 days.

Recently, we opened the second phase of our plan, and call it the Hydro-Plane. It will fly along side the BI-II and work in areas that the BI-II is not working. Both plans are doing very well. Our THEME is a SHIP on a rescue mission to seek out lost treasure.

OFFER TO ADMIN'S THAT LOST THEIR MEMBERS FUNDS:

The Hydro-Plane has generators in several areas. It is solid enough to compete with plans that pay 1% per day; and, it will be reliable enough for outside Admin's that need something to back their HYIP. We do not intend to compete with you should you join us as an outside Admin and rely upon us to pay you each payday. Within our framework of BI-II, the Hydro-Plane plan pays 4% every 10 days to the membership. You could offer any amount above that and at the same time know you have backing that will not fail. DETAILS WILL BE GIVEN SHOULD YOU REQUEST AT: TheSkipper@SAFe-mail.net

OUR INTENT AND MISSION:

Over the term of the mission for BI-II which ends on July 4, 2006, we want to prove that a "bail-out" plan can succeed. We are an honest Administrative Team and wish to GIVE AWAY our profits to the membership thereby helping those that need the funds the most not lose with us. Once July 4, 2006 arrives, that will be the day "all eyes" will be watching us. Until then, I guess we are still being evaluated. You as an outside Admin of a HYIP could be a part of that achievement and acquire a name for yourself should you wish to become a part of our overall plan. Without a TRUE sourse of generating power, no plan will work. We have such a POWER SOURSE.

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12-26-04, 09:41 AM

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Goodbye From Arnett

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Dear Members...Arnett the former Admin of BI-I contacted me (Kimo-admin of BI-II) and wanted to send the following message to all BI-I members that joined BI-II. If you are not a former BI-I you may disregard the following message...=======================>From Arnett -Former Admin of BI-I TO: All BI-I members that joined BI-IIDear Members..There has been a misconception by some BI-I members that I, Arnett the previous BI Admin is running BI-2. This misconception I am here to say, is simply not true.Yes BI-I is bankrupt. Unexpected marketmoves caught us in unrecoverable position. The BI-I team did notprofit at all from the collapse of BI-I.Because the BI-I membership was such a loyal base that I truly enjoyed working with I felt very badly over the bankruptcy of BI-I so I made the decision to locate a new Admin and Financial team that had the experience and ability to design and fufill a real recovery plan for the few remaining BI-I members that chose to participate.Thus the birth of BI-II on or about 7-4-2004... and open enrollment for the remaining BI-I members that wanted to participate in BI-II. Joining BI-II was a choice given BI-I members, some joinedand some chose not to join.My only association with BI-II was assisting during the transistion phase.. and now that it is obvious that BI-II is real, paying on time and it is on track for it's core recovery mission... I have asked the BI-II admin team for the opportunity to post this farewell messagefrom me. (Arnett).To all the former BI-I members.. Thank you for your support of BI-I. I'm sorry things did not turn out better for both of us. I have every confidence in the new BI-II team, their honesty, integrity andability to complete the recovery plan for those BI-I members that decided to participate.As the year winds down.. and my transition efforts to assist BI-II are now complete.. I will be taking down the old BI-I site at year's end. Get to know the BI-II team... Commodore, Skipper, Kimo, Andy and Spec and the National Represenative..for They are your future.I wish you all well.May your Christmas be Merry and New Year Prosperous.Good-Bye and the best of luck !Arnett / Former BI-I admin

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02-04-05, 12:01 AM

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Although members who wished to withdraw interest were asked to do so during January, it seems that there`s going to be a delay with some payments.

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Regarding withdrawal request

All withdrawal request are on hold until the disbursement account is funded with the returns earned. There was a change in paying to our disbursement account and has caused delays in returning your earnings to you.

We do not wish to have anyone join BI-II until May 2005.

DO NOT JOIN BI-II OR SPEND TO BI-II UNTIL THERE IS A PLACE FOR THE FUNDS TO BE PLACED.

The best estimate to have the withdrawal request honored is February 18th, and that is not definate.

The Skipper

Should members be worried?

Geoff

02-13-05, 06:43 PM

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Once again the BI-II site is down. It does seem to suffer it`s fair share of problems!

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02-21-05, 08:47 PM

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Maybe it`s time to re-title this thread `The BI-II Boat Is Sinking`

(In fact I have).

From The Skipper on the BI-II Forum.

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There was once this little bird that waited too long to head south for the winter. And, on his way a cold front caught him and as he stopped for some food, he got so cold that he couldn't get back off the ground.

A cow came along and said, I'll help you and turned around and crapped on him. The warmth of it saved his life.

The next morning, he stuck his head out and saw that he was still alive and started singing. A cat came along and said, I'll help you, cleaned him off and then ate him.

The morale of the story is: Those that crap on you aren't necessarily your enemy, and those that clean the crap off of you aren't necessarily your friend.

So, it's best to keep your mouth shut when you are warm and comfortable regardless where you are, and you haven't yet completed the journey of going south.

***** BI-II still has time to reach it's goal, well over 16 months yet. Just because there has been a set back doesn't mean the mission has failed. The web site is still here, and unlike others that have simply disappeared under all the crap they have to endure from their friends, BI-II is still floating. *****

The Skipper

Others can duplicate us; but, NONE can imitate us

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02-21-05, 09:38 PM

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Not too sure about the validity of this post, found at the BI-II Forum, and posted by someone called `martini.` Somehow I think I`ve lost my $30 (less payments).

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Mr Specktator has asked me in a message to post this for everyone. As a concerned member, I am respecting his request. PLEASE READ:
Answered by: Specktator

You are right, everywhere you turn in this arena programs fail all the time. Mr. Lloyd lost over $60K, or the funds are locked in some bank.

The admin contacted Mr. Lloyd to secure the principal and that was all his part was. That part of the plan is still in place and working. Come July 4, 2006 even Mr. Lloyd will recoup his own principal by his own plan, yet he will lose his earnings through the other part.

The overall plan was fail proof especially principal security, but the earnings side was caused by outside forces that no one say coming until it hit.

Mr. Lloyd will give further updates and progress reports as he is going to purchase the BI-II web site and database on behalf of the membership and get it running. He is going to get the passwords of the forum and give updates on his portion of the plan which will show everyone that there was more to it than what was evident on the surface.

I'm a part of the plan as well and will help as much as possible in answering questions and post. We will no longer have the harsh responses from the Commodore because he is having his own problems at the moment and has, like Elvis, left the building.

Be patient with Mr. Lloyd because his only duty was to secure the principal. You do not have to add any funds to BI-II whatsoever. Enough is there that will compound until July 4, 2006 that will pay you and everyone else back 100%. I noticed in his post that he is even adding funds himself to give each member some return all along the way. Thus, the plan will have completed successfully for the membership although high returns would not have been achieved.

All is not lost just yet. It's still possible the funds will be released as Mr. Kadizak didn't do anything wrong and his attorneys are working on the situation. Let's forget about them because we don't want to get involved and become a part of their dilemma right now.

Wish you the best, and Mr. Lloyd will see that you are paid your withdrawal when he gets control of the BI-II database. Right now he is working to do just that.

After reading above.. Please send blank e-mail to following e-mail address for further info via Auto-responder.

speck-tator@safe-mail.net

All the Best,

Speck, Genius

Geoff

02-21-05, 10:00 PM

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No surprise there for me. I was 'benefactored' into BI 2, by someone who had always been straight with me, and is no longer associated with "BI2". Oh well, SSDD...
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02-28-05, 10:00 PM

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This found on the forum - the last post 2/24/05:

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Due to post being made by non-members, the forum has been CLOSED. It was by the request of the owner of the P-SLSL company that protected the principal of those BI-II members that joined BI-II through October 4, 2004. Those funds were protected by collaterial and was insured from loss. Thus, there was no choice except to honor his wishes regarding it closing.

IF you are a member of BI-II, you can login to your account and read the news and updates at the web site. Nothing further will be found at this forum.

IF you are new, do not sign up at the BI-II site because your account will be deactivated. The P-SLSL plan the BI-II members will be receiving returns is PRIVATE and does not have a web presence and never will be subject to that exposure. It has had life since 1994, and ALL of the BI-II membership wishes for it to continue indefinately without any further outside influence.

All other comments and news will be found within the web site.

Skipper

There is no other "comments and news" found at the website.

Looks like an abandoned ship.

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02-28-05, 11:37 PM

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BI-II is now known as the Marie Celeste (until it sinks without trace that is).

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02-28-05, 11:53 PM

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Very funny... I am NOT having a good day...

wah, wah, wah...

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02-28-05, 11:54 PM

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Thanks, Golddust, I always find little 'notes' like a sentence in the above post telling. Don't know whether it's intended, subconsciously, or otherwise, but little 'clues' like this, I find useful...

"Those funds were protected by collaterial and was insured from loss."

Interesting, the use of the term '*WERE*', rather than *ARE*, and *WAS* rather than *ARE*...

Intentional or not, 'slip' or not... Interesting...

Does it mean anything? Don't know. And, I'm not betting on a good explanation, either...

(allowing 'non-members' to post? INTERESTING! Now... Whose 'fault' would that be, I wonder.... chuckle... LOVE the explanations, at times!)

Ahhh. The games some people choose to play...

Amazing. SImply amazing. ALWAYS someone ELSE's fault, isn't it?

Whatever happened to responsibility and accountability (And, I might note, MY personal track record on that is 'somewhat' less than 'perfect'...)

Just my opinion,
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02-28-05, 11:59 PM

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BTW, Arnett, if you're reading this, thanks for always being straight with me. It IS appreciated!
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03-01-05, 12:04 AM

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And Arnett, if you are reading, care to comment?

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03-01-05, 08:31 AM

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Against the advice of many who had been in the original BI-I, I decided when the new program was launched to jump in with the minimum spend of $30. I`ve had some of that back along the way, but I think many of those who did join BI-II did so in the hope of eventually seeing some of our BI-I funds returned.

`Good money after bad` now comes to mind, so it looks like those who refused to get involved in the new venture were right.

Geoff

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03-01-05, 06:31 PM

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I'm with you there Geoff. It was worth the risk to try to recover the lost funds from BI-1. And at the start, it was looking good.
Guess Skipper turned pirate.

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