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Old 01-13-05, 03:35 AM
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Default RealityMillions Run by FreelandOpps?
http://www.whois.sc/realitymillions.com

Scroll down and view the SSH certificate info:
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SSL Cert: www.freelandopps.biz expires in 90 days

Very Interesting. What do you guys think?
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Old 01-13-05, 11:17 AM
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Fascinating! I wonder why that hasn`t been spotted before now?

No wonder Reality Millions have a good reputation for paying out as promised, maybe they have a lot of `other` funds as back-up?

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Old 01-13-05, 10:59 PM
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Nothing surprises in this game anymore it has always been a clandestine operation their are more twists and turns than their is in the CIA.)
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Old 01-13-05, 11:34 PM
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Looks like Katz Global took the blame...
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Old 01-14-05, 12:38 AM
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This spoils the fun. Posted at TG.
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Dear Reality Millions members,

This is Scott from Katz Global.

It was brought to my attention that one of FLO's (FreeLandOpps) old SSL certificates is still mapping to an IP address we issued to Reality Millions recently on their new dedicated server. I am writing to you all because I want you to know that this is purely accidental on our (Katz) part, as this IP address currently used by Reality Millions was at one stage in the past issued to/used by FLO, back when they used to host with us.

I want to assure you that there is no connection between the two parties/companies and that we are taking steps to correct this error on our backend system.

WHOIS information will be updated soon and will reflect the same!

If you have any questions at all regarding this you may contact me at any time at info@katzglobal.com

Thank you

Scott – Katz Global Admin
www.katzglobal.com

Geoff
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Old 01-14-05, 03:15 AM
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Damn! I thought you had something.
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Old 01-14-05, 04:57 AM
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Maybe next time
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Old 01-14-05, 06:11 AM
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Read Midas' explanation of this error/rumor at:
http://www.realitymillions.com/index.php?a=news#27

This is old news, scroll up for current news.

If you want a new rumor . . . Reality will likely close to new members before July 25th, 2005, as stated in the website!

It is getting very popular, ranked 5,354 at Alexa.

Source: RM training conference call last night.
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Old 01-14-05, 11:35 AM
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If you want a new rumor . . . Reality will likely close to new members before July 25th, 2005
If it manages to last till then it`ll have done far more than most other HYIP`s out there! That`s another seven months, a l-o-n-g time in this arena.

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Old 01-15-05, 01:14 AM
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This is Scott from Katz Global.
The Katz Global explanation re the anomaly was posted earlier, but any program that puts too much trust in them is taking a big chance. Their reputation has suffered over the time for a variety of reasons.

Geoff
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Old 01-15-05, 03:26 AM
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Between the scam artists and the skeptics/whiners, it's hard to believe anything lasts as long as it does in this arena
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Old 01-15-05, 09:07 PM
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People are often quick to criticize what they don`t necessarilly understand, or when returns seem to be out of the question.

Foreign Fund were offering, from memory, 1.2%-2.4% per day, depending on whether it was the non-compounding or compounding plan. FLO offered something like 90% return after a month. Now with both these programs people were screaming `scam` from the word go, and one common denominator with the 2 programs was the unsustainable interest rates. Hindsight confirms that the sceptics were right, but a lot of people did actually make a profit with them.

As far as Realitymillions is concerned it looks to me like a combination of an HYIP and an MLM (levels of commission depending on number of signups and other things) which isn`t necessarily a good or a bad thing. The lowest rate on the monthly plan appears to be 9%, and that`s where I would start to question. Is 9% really sustainable?

I`ve only read good things about them so far, and they have been around for several months. Good signs. As always, time will tell.

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Old 01-16-05, 12:58 AM
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People are often quick to criticize what they don`t necessarilly understand, or when returns seem to be out of the question.

Foreign Fund were offering, from memory, 1.2%-2.4% per day, depending on whether it was the non-compounding or compounding plan. FLO offered something like 90% return after a month. Now with both these programs people were screaming `scam` from the word go, and one common denominator with the 2 programs was the unsustainable interest rates. Hindsight confirms that the sceptics were right, but a lot of people did actually make a profit with them.

As far as Realitymillions is concerned it looks to me like a combination of an HYIP and an MLM (levels of commission depending on number of signups and other things) which isn`t necessarily a good or a bad thing. The lowest rate on the monthly plan appears to be 9%, and that`s where I would start to question. Is 9% really sustainable?

I`ve only read good things about them so far, and they have been around for several months. Good signs. As always, time will tell.

Geoff

The information was available on the Reality Millions web site a long time back. I haven't been interested in investing in it, but I saw this somewhere else several weeks back and then found the answer on the Reality Milliions web site.

Don't know if it's stated how returns are generated other than by "offshore investments." 9 percent monthly returns are definitely sustainable in the Forex market, though -- FXVision being a good example.

I was referring more in general to the concept of the self-fulfilling prophesy, which is alive and well in hyip.

That being said, I don't look at ANYTHING as being long-term in this arena. Matter of fact, I put $$ in with the idea that it's likely that I won't get it back -- unfortunately. But Buildwealth has the right concept going, IMHO.

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Old 01-16-05, 11:09 AM
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I knew the case couple of weeks ago, didnt take it seriously. RM is still one of my favorites.
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Old 03-13-05, 11:47 AM
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Further adding fuel to the RM fire is this post which in now `doing the rounds` but originated at the FLO Foum.

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I have been a member of FLO and a supporter of Xavier since March, 2004. I was “savvy” and fortunate enough to take out my seed money, but chose to allow the rest of my funds to compound. Like all members in this Forum, I continue to have much more at stake with the potential completion of the PP. Over the past year, I have often frequented both forums and participated in the chat room. Many of you know me, would recognize my username and have communicated with me on numerous occasions. My username is not “wordprint” and this is most definitely not my first post. I chose to sign up with a new username to protect my privacy. After this post, I will be back making comments to everyone (in my real username) about this alarming theory I have privately decided to share publicly. Keep reading…it only gets better.

Using “wordprint analysis”, a method of determining idiosyncratic subconscious patterns in the writings of any author, I have come to the conclusion that Xavier (with FLO) and Midas (with Reality Millions) are one in the same! If you desire to see the latest venture from Xavier, you only need to visit www.realitymillions.com.

By trade, I am a statistical consultant for several universities somewhere in this world. I won’t go into any more detail about my identity or what I do, but I have just completed a statistical analysis of Xavier’s writing style. Why? To determine if my hypothesis (that Xavier and Midas are one and the same) has substance or not. Allow me to explain.

It has been proven that one’s writing style remains the same throughout their life, and is not affected by (1) passage of time, (2) change in subject matter, or (3) literary form. For my analysis, I started with a basic assumption that individual authors leave something analogous to a fingerprint in all their works. Each author’s writing style has some subconscious individualistic patterns that are not easily altered. The conscious features of a writing style can be imitated, but the unconscious and subconscious features surely cannot. These patterns form the author’s unique “wordprint”. The growing number of wordprint studies includes inquiries into the authorship of letters, biblical books and ancient Greek works.

Upon completion of my analysis of the writings from both Xavier and Midas, I was overwhelmingly convinced that both authors shared the same unique set of unconscious style characteristics. It is impossible to alter the characteristics found in your own personal style of writing. I had plenty of written work to compare between the two, and the results never changed…both websites were written by the same author.

The conclusion of such a hypothesis has been shocking. You may form your own opinions, but thoughts of “Scam, Ponzi, and Criminal…” cross my mind. I have no anger to vent (I, alone, accepted the risks), only a loud warning to stay away from Reality Millions, and a soft persuasion to move on regarding FLO.

Good luck to all,

Wordprint

Additional comments: I have been trying to respond to freshman and mike22, but none of my "replys" are being posted. Mods, am I being banned from further posts?

Here is the reply I have been trying to post:

Dear freshman,

I respect your opinion, but disagree with your conclusion for the fact that you have misunderstood my analysis. A “linguistic fingerprint” has absolutely nothing to do with content, and everything to do with an author’s subconscious pattern of usage of the language features which uniquely characterize his or her writings. You can fake “compassion” in the form of words, but you cannot alter characteristics that are strictly unique to your own writing style.

To further explain, a “fingerprint” is determined by examining the habit patterns of usage of noncontextual words, or the usage of the small filler words that every author exhibits. The noncontextual words which have been most successful in discriminating among authors are the filler words of a language, such as prepositions, conjunctions and sometimes adjectives and adverbs.

Let me share an example which illustrates this approach to authorship identification. When Jane Austen died in 1817, she left an unfinished novel along with a summary. A few years ago, an anonymous admirer completed this novel and published it. She was a highly skilled author and tried her best to imitate the style of Jane Austen. She succeeded very well in the conscience elements of style and content, but failed totally in the subconscious habits of detail. When these habit patterns were examined and compared, the difference was clearly evident.

The same analysis has been completed with the works of Xavier and Midas, but in this case, the habit patterns of their writings are exactly identical. From personal experience and an educated analysis, I can only conclude that both individuals are the same person.

Wordprint

P.S. mike22, if you recall, Xavier also paid on time in the beginning of his program. All creative Ponzi schemes start out fast and profitable.
Geoff
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Old 03-13-05, 12:00 PM
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A very well written analysis!...

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Old 03-13-05, 08:39 PM
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I read somewhere that RM is discontinuing e-gold as an option for funding and withdrawals after RM was hacked and deposits were redirected to a different e-gold account because e-gold will not switch the funds to RM.
It seems that a few sites have been hacked in this manner. E-gold policy seems to be to put a hold on new deposits to accused accounts but remain firm about transactions only being reversed by court order.
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Old 03-14-05, 09:39 PM
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Candy,

You will find the whole story in the Midas update for March 11/12 at: http://www.realitymillions.net/esupport/

click on Announcements. Below is just an excerpt from that Update:
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E-GOLD

With immediate effect we shall NO LONGER be using E-Gold for sending or receiving cash or deposits…, why ??

Simple – I totally disagree with their company ethics!

This is what has happened a few times now – the last one has become the last straw:

Hacker changed the receiving account (ours) to theirs… members did not check that the account they were paying was ours. This meant that transactions over a certain amount and at certain times of the day were going to their E-Gold account and not ours, even though members were credited in the RM system…

Although we immediately let E-Gold management know and they ‘froze’ the hacker’s E-Gold account, they maintain that the money in question cannot be returned to the rightful account – ours!

This means that, even though proven fraud has taken place, they will back the hacker and not the client (us). They take hold of the funds in the hackers account, and according to their ‘terms and conditions’ never pay us back… who takes all this money then – THEM!!!!!!!

E-Gold let us know in no uncertain terms… “Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We have imposed a balance limit on this account, but in terms of our agreement, we are unable to pay this money back to you…” Bull… what do they do? They take that cash as added profits to their company!!

So, do E-Gold pertantly leave ‘holes’ in the security of their software to increase their profit margin? I firmly believe so!

If you are any way employed by E-Gold, please send a message to your management… please tell them: “Get ready for a serious lawsuit – I will not rest until I get you (E-Gold) closed down and brought to accountabilty for your negligence and blatant support of unethical income largely aimed at your own coffers and personal profit margin!

Rest assured; I have the finacial means to back this statement financially and will expose your every move!
To Hear Midas talk about the investments, go to either www.rmtraining.net or www.realitymillions.biz/news Both sites have online audios of the most recent Midas training call.

RM is the real deal for me: I am earning both in the investment and with the referral program. I have spoken with a 100K investor in RM who has met Midas and the plans they have for continuing RM beyond the 3 years is impressive. I have no doubts it will be here for many years to come.
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Old 03-18-05, 11:37 AM
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In responding to a post over at TG in which someone had compared her to another member who`s very pro-RM, Debra (remember-ex-Admin of FLO) said this of RM
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I never even joined the make millions scam, looked at the website a couple of months ago and laughed. The only seven I know is the kind you drink as in 7-up!
Hey that means that, judging by her track record of picking winners, RM is probably the real deal.

Geoff
 

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