HYIPMailer.com - HYIP Newsletter #141 - 10/31/05

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NEWSLETTER INDEX - SECTIONS
I - HYIP News/Notices Update
II - Pips over the last Year
III - Some Interesting Forum Discussions


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I - HYIP NEWS/NOTICES UPDATE

* HYIP101 has added a lot of new features to their phenominal e-book that they
have written on HYIPs. We highly suggest purchasing their e-book if you want to
really make money on HYIPs.

* There has been an increased number of DDOS attacks in the last 2 weeks.
E-gold fell victim to these attacks last week, and over a dozen Hyips this week
have reported being attacked. Things seem to be quieting down now.

* Looks like the end may be inching closer for Bryan Marsden and Pips.
Supposedly there will be a court hearing on pips in 2 and a half weeks on
November 17th. Hopefully investors will be able to get atleast a little
information by then since Bryan refuses to tell them anything besides "be
patient".

* TheHyipForum.com recently launched their Community Portfolio Project. This
will allow forum members to decide where they should invest a given amount of
donated funds. Should be a neat way to participate in the arena without
actually having to spend money. All funds will eventually be donated to
charities. For more info see;
http://thehyipforum.com/forum48-the-hyipforum-community-portfolio-project.html

* MMG has been having hosting issues the last week. The site has been on and
offline quite often over the last several days. Supposedly they just switched
hosts and things should be getting back to normal.

* Feederfund has reported that they had mail server issues over the last 3
days. These problems should now be fixed. If you emailed them and did not get
a response, then this was probably the reason.

* FXIG has drastically changed their withdrawl waiting periods to the
following:
$1,000-$10,000 withdrawal processed in 3 days
$10,000-$50,000 withdrawal processed in 30 days
$50,000-$500,000 withdrawal processed in 60 days
$500,000-$1,000,000 withdrawal processed in 180 days
$1,000,000 + withdrawal processed in 365 Days

* After almost 1 year of paying out its investors, Oceanic Financial has
finally stopped making payouts. It looks like this program was most likely a
long drawnout ponzi scheme. Things do not look good right now.

* Oxygen Invest has also stopped paying out its investors. The website is
down, and the admin has not contacted any of his/her investors. Although this
could be related to a ddos attack, the lack of communication from the admin
signals otherwise.

* Both Dot HYIP and Star Lights have closed without making even one payout to
their investors. These looks like sure-fire hit and run scams.

* Other programs which have closed this week are: Secure Reserve, E-Profit
Club, Private Profit Club, Usd HYIP, IFX Trade Corp, Golden Maker, E Forex
Invest, 21 Century hyip, and tech Invest.


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II - PIPS OVER THE LAST YEAR - From Brian at Talkgold

Brian from talkgold put together a list of our Pips news snipets from the past
year. Here they are:

11/15/04
http://www.pips-scam.com has recently launched a site. This site, whether true
or not, is dedicated to giving the other side of Pips. It's basically made as a
place for PIps skeptics to hang around and discuss issues that are not aloud in
the official pips forum

11/23/04
Bryan of PIPs is threatening to take the official pips forum offline because
there are too many people bashing his program. Most of these people are asking
questions, some legitmate, some stupid. We'll have to wait and see what happens
with this. There have been reports that they have started removing posts and
banning members. Withdrawals are also delayed some time.

12/4/04
PIPs continues to have delays in withdrawal requests and wire deposits. There
has also been a continued barrage of people asking tuff questions to Bryan, only
to get ignored. Albeit the program has been paying for months and still is the
steadiest program around. Ponzi or not, people are still making money. Lets just
hope some are not investing over their heads.


12/20/04
Gin systems has launched what looks like a clone of PIPs. This program should be
interesting to follow. Some people beleive they are just piggybacking PIPs. We
recommend you wait atleast a few weeks before even considering to invest into
Gins. Looks like a clear ponzi scheme to us.

1/5/05
Pips has been having some major challenges this past week. Their forum has been
offline much of the time and they have been forced to close their referral
program. The next few weeks should give us a good indication of where PIPs is
headed.

1/13/05
Pips continues to have major issues concerning withdrawals. Bryan has not given
an update in over a month via the forum, and the program is seemingly in limbo.
Hold off on new spends until current withdrawals speed up. THere are a few
forums where members can discuss PIPs in an open free environment:
http://www.talkgold.com/forum/index.php?showforum=130
http://www.web-life.org/vb/f46-High...20Programs.html

1/22/05
PIPs continues to have major issues. Bryan Marsden has not given an update in
over 6 weeks. Many people are complaining about not getting their withdrawals.
Pic-Pay, their own e-currency is becoming more and more valuless as time goes
by. Unless PIPs can quickly turn around and get it's act together, the future of
the program does not look all that bright.

1/30/05
PIPs members continue to hang onto the last bit of hope. It is quite surprising
that this many people are still believing in PIPs considering Bryan has not made
an appearance for over 45 days.

2/8/05
PIPs members remain in limbo. Bryan is reportedly ill, and has not posted in
their forum for almost 2 months. Things seem a bit fishy. We recommend holding
off on spending into PIPs until things are cleared up. Next Month there is a
planned convention in Hawaii. It should be interesting to see if Bryan will show
up.

3/10/05
PIPs forum has been having some trouble with viruses being installed. We are
pretty certain that their forum is now in better shape, and the virus has been
removed. It is always a good idea to use a reliable virus protection software
when browsing the net.

4/4/05
Supposedly if Picpay does not issue the withdraw requests from December
withdraws, a group of members will issue a formal complaint.


4/11/05
Pips is continuing to have withdraw delays. It seems as if the backlog problem
is getting worse, and on top of all of this, there is mass confusion after a
wave of PIN problems. They claim to be setting a Bank up in Cambodia, whish will
releave the withdraw backlog, but this has yet to be seen. Personally we'd
recommend waiting and seeing what happens in the next month, making sure the
backlog does clear up like they promise.

4/25/05
Pips, continues to have withdraw issues. Currently they claim to be almost 4
months backlogged, however they have also just warned that another bank has
dropped them. This combined with numerous articles in local newspapers claiming
PIPs is a scam, has brought a lot of negative attention to the program. I guess
we all just have to wait and see what happens with one of the largest HYIPs
ever.

5/2/05
Pips continues to have problems. Withdraws have virtually stopped, and Bryan
continues to feed excuse after excuse to its members. He has recently stated
that withdraws will start back up very shortly. In the meantime, there have been
several reports, particularly from Alaska, warning against Pips, claiming it is
a ponzi scheme. The next month or two should really be filled with news.
Postive, or Negative, we really don't know.

5/9/05
Pips delays continue. Some members are waiting close to 5 months for their
withdraws. Despite this, Bryan continues to post positive messages saying things
will improve. It's still a wait and see situation.

5/16/05
Pips supposedly is paying Picpay Merchants on time now. Meaning that the best
way to deal with Picpays near worthlessness is to buy products from these
merchants.

5/23/05
Pips and Picpay continue have major issues. Withdraws for members are still
behind almost 5 months, and now Merchant withdraws are starting to back up.
Bryan claims everything is on track for withdraws to speed up, however we will
believe it when we see it.

5/31/05
Pips continues to issue excuse after excuse for delays. Delays are now just over
5 months for withdraws. Bryan claims that December 2004 withdraws should be
completed on Tuesday May 31.

6/17/05
Pips has taken a turn for the worse. In the last week, Picpay has been locked to
spending, Bryan has planned on taking the forum down, and the withdraw situtaion
has not improved. Things are looking pretty bad. Unless withdraws can pick up
very soon, it looks like pips is dead in the water.

6/23/05
Pips Has Taken down its forum. There is no public communication between members
of pips besides at alternate forums like Talkgold.com and Web-Life.org. Bryan
will be giving news updates when members log into their accounts. Right now
things don't look all that good. By all means, DO NOT invest into this program
for now.

7/11/05
Pips and Bryan Marsden continue to claim that things are moving along well. It
is quite obvious that this is not the truth. Until withdraws are totally caught
up, do not spend into this program. Another handfull of cease and desist orders
have been issued from various other US states.

7/25/05
Bryan and Pips claimed to have very good news coming. They stated this about a
week ago, and we have yet to hear the news. There has been some speculation that
there will be a major restructuring plan for Pips. I guess we will have to wait
and see. There has also been speculation that an update will be released on
August 2nd. Also there is a very interesting post made at the following url:
http://thehyipforum.com/showthread....89&page=1&pp=10
In my opinion its just another stall tactic.

8/1/05
There has been a major shakeup in the pips camp. Currently there are rumors that
Gary Nichols has resigned as well as "Warren" Bryan's attorney. There has not
been an update from Bryan himself in over 2 weeks. To us it looks like Pips is
gone A letter has been written supposedly from their trust manager who just
resigned. It is very interesting.

8/8/05
Pips Continues it's freefall. The only updates we get from Bryan are those which
say, "just wait". It's clear that there will not be any more real news until the
program officially collapses.

8/16/05
The pips saga continues to drag on. Excuse after excuse continues to come out of
the pips camp, however there have been no actions to accompany the words. People
need to start realizing it's over start the recovery period.

8/28/05
The Pips fiasco continues. Bank Nagara is supposedly investigating Picpay after
dozens of complaints by members. It looks like the investigation could take
weeks. The Pips saga will continue to drag on for a while to come. In the last
week, Alabama joined the states issuing Cease and Desist orders, not that it
really matters. Things look really terrible.

9/6/05
Pips continues its problems. The bank Nagara investigation is suppsoedly still
going on. The pips sites were up online 2 days ago which seemed to get people
excited, however the facts are Pips is NOT paying out.

9/25/05
There has not been any major news out of the Pips camp. Investors are stil im
limbo and nothing new has been given to us in some time. We still have those
people who are clinging to the last bits of hope, however as each day passes,
this hope dwindles.

10/3/05
Pips Pureinvestors has not made much progress this week. Bryan claims that they
will be restructuring the program once the banks investigations are over. People
at ROLclub continue to accept donations for Bryan's defence fund, even though
there are not even any charges yet. We find this extremely odd and urge everyone
to beware of the situation.

10/11/05
There has not been any major news coming from Pips. You still have the
supporters and the naysayers. We think it's quite clear that Pips is a scam and
will NOT be returning. There are still people collecting funds for Bryan's
defence fund, when he has not even been brought to trial or charged with
anything yet. We recommend you do not give any more money to anyone having to do
with Pips. This program has followed the all too often series of events we are
familiar with when major HYIPs collapse.

10/18/05
Bryan Marsden continues to drag everyne along. He continues to tell investors
that he can not release any information as to what is going on, but eventually
things will be better. Seems like a bunch of bull to us. This program is a clear
scam.

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Thanks Geoff, the Pips trail you posted is very interesting however it seems a little one sided at least to me but hey that's just my opinion.

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Hardlyworkin

Thanks for the update/Newsletter. PIPs is in way too deep to ever recover no matter which side your on. But hey, that's just me.


golddust

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From what I'm to understand the Pips court date is just to free up some of the frozen money to pay employees their past due salaries and really has nothing to do with the investigation yet.

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Did anyone actually expect anything to REALLY happen on November 17th?

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Hardlyworkin

NOPE, not me. But those who still have 'hope' may have.

Anyone still 'hoping' out there?


golddust

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I can honestly say I withdrawed just in the nick of time, not a PIP's victum myself. However I sympathize for those who are. Remember if it's too good to be true, it probably is. PIP's was great, while it lasted.

Perhaps in the future I will start up an emergency insurance fund for those in programs like pips. It's up to the people now.

Here is a forum where you can register your losses with the NZ authorities:
http://www.it4us-scam.com/

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This site is dedicated to gathering information on the IT4US.NET (Ponzi) Investment Program You can Register Here and have your Losses included in the Claim sent to the NZ Serious Fraud Office

golddust

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